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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:45 PM
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That Plastic Cover will Melt and Kill the Looks of that Great Looking Motherboards. My second one did not have that cover and came with a few marks but it works. But then you do not even have a CPU Installed
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 0:42 PM
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GGTV-Jon Thought I would share the only time anyone would see and 9800GT on an X299 Dark
Like you checking fit in case first. Avoids my recent "What do I do with radiator?" moment.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:01 AM
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Also check: VRM heat sink not making contact with case. Any rubber grommets near VRM not keeping mobo off standoffs or causing flexing when board screwed to stand offs. Had to remove in grommets in my case.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:12 AM
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Is it required for the Bottom of the "VRM Heat Sink" to make contact the Case or the Motherboard Mount in the Case?
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:14 AM
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bcavnaugh Is it required for the Bottom of the "VRM Heat Sink" to make contact the Case or the Motherboard Mount in the Case?
If the vrm heatsink makes contact with the case, the 8 pin eps plugs may not fit and the vrm heatsink May flex. Making contact would be a bad thing normally.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:26 AM
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bcavnaugh Is it required for the Bottom of the "VRM Heat Sink" to make contact the Case or the Motherboard Mount in the Case?
If the vrm heatsink makes contact with the case, the 8 pin eps plugs may not fit and the vrm heatsink May flex. Making contact would be a bad thing normally.
The X299 has a BIG Bottom Plate that is the same height as a Stand Off and is Flush on the Case or Motherboard Mounting Plate. I would say it is part of the VRM Cooling System for the X299 Dark Motherboard. In the image in the first post it looks like their is no Motherboard Mounting Plate or any part of the Case for it to make contact.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:35 AM
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the_Scarlet_one If the vrm heatsink makes contact with the case, the 8 pin eps plugs may not fit and the vrm heatsink May flex. Making contact would be a bad thing normally.
Not conclusive, but I found it to be a bad thing. bcavnaugh The X299 has a BIG Bottom Plate that is the same height as a Stand Off and is Flush on the Case or Motherboard Mounting Plate.
Fair point. I could not screw mobo to standoffs fully without VRM/case contact or mobo flexion. Stopped screws at initial resistance felt. Slightly inclined mobo to get I/O ports to align with case I/O shield. Removed attached I/O shield from Dark to align with stand-offs and (included with Dark) case I/O shield.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:37 AM
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bcavnaugh

Don't put screw to standoff through the gold colored hole in that picture.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:39 AM
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I see what you are saying now, I did not have this issue when I installed mine.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 5:44 AM
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geninfo Also check: VRM heat sink not making contact with case. Any rubber grommets near VRM not keeping mobo off standoffs or causing flexing when board screwed to stand offs. Had to remove in grommets in my case.
Actually - I only have 2 screws holding the Dark in the case at the moment, before I took the pictures I was looking at the back of the case and saw that the IO was crooked in the hole and the upper left of the board was a good 1/16 off the standoff. There was a plastic cable holder in the case hitting the VRM backplate - once removed all was good The VRM back plate looks REALLY close to the tray on part of it. I am actually considering putting some thermal pads between the two to maybe get some heat transfer there
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 6:00 AM
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A picture of the compartment with the backside of the mother board tray - as you can see the back of the CPU socket is exposed but the VRM back plate is partially covered. Perhaps trying to get a thermal pad on the VRM back plate as I suggested in my previous post would bee too much and flex things a bit. Was thinking about trying to mount a fan to blow air on the back of the socket and board This next picture shows the top of the mother board and the top of the case. There is a spot just over the top of the opening between the two halves of the case where an 240mm radiator will be mounted. Only 2.5" (63.5mm) room there to the top of the mother board. I need to get the cooler and fans to check it but I am thinking if it rubs I will have to change the fans to some thinner ones or remove the now iconic VRM heat sink cover. Removal of the Dark fans and cover should have little to no affect as their will be plenty of airflow from the radiator fans dam near touching the VRM cooler and the fan on the back of the case pulling air across from the front fans While waiting for EVGA to get a PSU in stock I will be getting the radiators and fans next Editnote: FYI - There will be a 420mm radiator down the inside back (Right side) of the first picture
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 12:59 AM
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GGTV-Jon Actually - I only have 2 screws holding the Dark in the case at the moment, before I took the pictures I was looking at the back of the case and saw that the IO was crooked in the hole and the upper left of the board was a good 1/16 off the standoff. There was a plastic cable holder in the case hitting the VRM backplate - once removed all was good The VRM back plate looks REALLY close to the tray on part of it. I am actually considering putting some thermal pads between the two to maybe get some heat transfer there
Two screws probably sufficient final if not torquing board. With GPU installed, where's it gonna go? :) Novel on thermal pads. Could work if cautious about pressure.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 1:09 PM
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GGTV-Jon A picture of the compartment with the backside of the mother board tray - as you can see the back of the CPU socket is exposed but the VRM back plate is partially covered. Perhaps trying to get a thermal pad on the VRM back plate as I suggested in my previous post would bee too much and flex things a bit. Was thinking about trying to mount a fan to blow air on the back of the socket and board This next picture shows the top of the mother board and the top of the case. There is a spot just over the top of the opening between the two halves of the case where an 240mm radiator will be mounted. Only 2.5" (63.5mm) room there to the top of the mother board. I need to get the cooler and fans to check it but I am thinking if it rubs I will have to change the fans to some thinner ones or remove the now iconic VRM heat sink cover. Removal of the Dark fans and cover should have little to no affect as their will be plenty of airflow from the radiator fans dam near touching the VRM cooler and the fan on the back of the case pulling air across from the front fans While waiting for EVGA to get a PSU in stock I will be getting the radiators and fans next Editnote: FYI - There will be a 420mm radiator down the inside back (Right side) of the first picture
Looks nice. Like case. Some testers see better results putting radiator on intake front and using case fans high and rear to exhaust. I moved my radiator to intake front because of this and not enough space at top. Push-pull fans on radiator possible if not crammed in top near mobo.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Monday, February 19, 2018 6:05 PM
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I would not use a Thermal Pad on the Bottom Side of that VRM Bottom Plate. If the Bottom Plate was Flat and Smooth I might think of using a .01 or .02 Thermal Pad but not with the current Air Flow Type that it is now using.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 5:59 AM
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geninfo Looks nice. Like case. Some testers see better results putting radiator on intake front and using case fans high and rear to exhaust. I moved my radiator to intake front because of this and not enough space at top. Push-pull fans on radiator possible if not crammed in top near mobo.
I plan on putting a res / pump combo between the board and the front fans and would prefer to have all heat from radiator transfer to exit the case. This setup will have as many intake fans as there are exhaust fans so with proper fan speed control there will be proper air flow and case pressure. Planned flow path is to be res / pump --> GPU --> 240 rad (top) --> CPU --> 420 rad (back) --> back to res If I was to put a radiator in the front of the case and not use the top mount then I would have to put the res / pump in the second compartment. There is no window on that side. I know some peeps like to hide their pumps. I did look at what changes would have to be done to move the res and pump to the second compartment and just have the tubes ran into the board section I would have to relocate the SSD mount. I admit I am torn when thinking about the res / pump location. While I do think it could have a clean look with the res / pump out of site with just tubing running into view but I also want to show it off, perhaps with some PrimoChill VUE
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:22 AM
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EVGA X299 Dark is so cool. If someone search for reason to jump on Skylake-X than this mobo on steroid should be reason. I mean what gamer need more than 32 GB 3200MHz C12 and i9-7900X on EVGA X299 Dark. If plate on backside of mobo touch case that mean whole motherboard tray help to heat dissipation and better VRM temps. In that case I would install thin thermalpad on backside and press nicely motherboard and than thight with screws.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 5:32 PM
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geninfo Looks nice. Like case. Some testers see better results putting radiator on intake front and using case fans high and rear to exhaust. I moved my radiator to intake front because of this and not enough space at top. Push-pull fans on radiator possible if not crammed in top near mobo.
I plan on putting a res / pump combo between the board and the front fans and would prefer to have all heat from radiator transfer to exit the case. This setup will have as many intake fans as there are exhaust fans so with proper fan speed control there will be proper air flow and case pressure. Planned flow path is to be res / pump --> GPU --> 240 rad (top) --> CPU --> 420 rad (back) --> back to res If I was to put a radiator in the front of the case and not use the top mount then I would have to put the res / pump in the second compartment. There is no window on that side. I know some peeps like to hide their pumps. I did look at what changes would have to be done to move the res and pump to the second compartment and just have the tubes ran into the board section I would have to relocate the SSD mount. I admit I am torn when thinking about the res / pump location. While I do think it could have a clean look with the res / pump out of site with just tubing running into view but I also want to show it off, perhaps with some PrimoChill VUE
You invoked: Custom loop. Pretty views. No rules now. Build away. :) Reservoir and pump in sight fine for custom loops.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 5:52 PM
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Vlada011 EVGA X299 Dark is so cool.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Wednesday, February 21, 2018 7:17 AM
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Bottom VRM heat spreader does not have to touch the chassis. It is ok if it does, but only if no physical force is applied to it. There is thick thermal pad between the HS and board surface + standoffs on the HS. If you want absolute best thermals then you may want to add thermal pad sheet of suitable thickness between the heat spreader and your chassis, but the difference is just few degrees on VRM temp, so it's up to you if it's worth that. Also gold colored mount hole near EPS plugs is same as any other mount hole and can be used without limitations to mount board to the chassis. only time anyone would see and 9800GT on an X299 Dark I use 8600GTS all the time during board testing :D.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:17 PM
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The only real issue using an Older Graphics Card is you cannot set the Bios to Full UEFI Mode. So the testing is really only for the Old Graphics Card and not the Motherboard. But it is still fun to play around.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:07 AM
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TiN_EE Bottom VRM heat spreader does not have to touch the chassis. It is ok if it does, but only if no physical force is applied to it. There is thick thermal pad between the HS and board surface + standoffs on the HS. If you want absolute best thermals then you may want to add thermal pad sheet of suitable thickness between the heat spreader and your chassis, but the difference is just few degrees on VRM temp, so it's up to you if it's worth that. Also gold colored mount hole near EPS plugs is same as any other mount hole and can be used without limitations to mount board to the chassis.
only time anyone would see and 9800GT on an X299 Dark I use 8600GTS all the time during board testing :D.
Thank you for the information TiN_EE. Nice to see that someone that had their hands in the development of this great motherboard actually peaking at the forums here As to the 9800GT I have in the picture - it is a bad card. It is the only card I had on hand the was PCIE to use as a mock up
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Thursday, February 22, 2018 7:13 AM
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That's some Lian Li case on pictures? Can't be something else, or someone made quality cases on similar way.
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:40 PM
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Re: X299 Dark - Something Funny
Friday, February 23, 2018 4:47 PM
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GGTV-Jon
Vlada011 That's some Lian Li case on pictures? Can't be something else, or someone made quality cases on similar way.
Yup PC-D600 http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt-portfolio/pc-d600/
I didn't doiubt, when I saw holes, grill and surface, special Optical Bay Cage I knew no other brand on market to offer that except Lian Li. How much are they above other companies, OK Caselabs would like everyone. But Lian-Li made more than 100 Case models in history and all of them are same after 20 years. But they production facility is great. I look some video how they cut and bend aluminum for cases.
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