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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2022/10/15 07:08:52 (permalink)
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not that interested


 
I understand. Don't care for the guy either but at least you can see the cable.
Actually, I described it well enough.

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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2022/10/15 08:17:50 (permalink)
does the CORSAIR HX1500i 1500W 80+ PLATINUM full modular PSU comes with the 600W PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable for RTX4090?
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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2022/10/15 08:30:20 (permalink)
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does the CORSAIR HX1500i 1500W 80+ PLATINUM full modular PSU comes with the 600W PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable for RTX4090?


No. Refer to the spec page for the PSU.
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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2022/10/15 09:18:36 (permalink)
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Yep, I was checking YouTube too and found their "MSI GAMING" unboxing video of it to have the 3x 8-pin to 16-pin adapter...
 
Here is the video: GeForce RTX® 4090 GAMING X TRIO - Unboxing | MSI - YouTube (at the 6-7 second mark)



are you powering your RTX4090 with that default 3x 8pin PCIE cable that came with your gpu now? mine is suprim X, anyone know where can I get one of those 600W PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU power cable?
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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2022/10/15 19:44:50 (permalink)
Update: I cancelled my order of the RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Trio and ordered the 4090 FE from BestBuy. I just didn't want to risk it (having 3x 8-pin instead of 4x). Will pick it up next week (yay!)
 
Thank you all by the way for the help/support!
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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2024/03/09 10:10:08 (permalink)
Sooooo. I just got a 4090 FE. I’m replacing my EVGA 3090ti. I’m using the EVGA PerFe gen 5 cable for my 3090ti. Can this also be used on my 4090? I have not found a confirmed answer on this yet.
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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2024/03/09 10:18:23 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby BizSAR 2024/03/11 10:37:18
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Sooooo. I just got a 4090 FE. I’m replacing my EVGA 3090ti. I’m using the EVGA PerFe gen 5 cable for my 3090ti. Can this also be used on my 4090? I have not found a confirmed answer on this yet.


No, it won't work.
 
It's only for 30 series (FE and 3090 Ti).  It's only 12 pin and lacks the 4 sense pins needed for 40 series.
 
Explanation:
Sense pins were not on early 30 series FE GPUs, just the 12 pin for power/ground.  Sense pins were added to the 3090 Ti, but, were optional (the GPU still works without them).  On 40 series they are required, so the GPU won't function if these pins aren't present.  The PerFE cable was made during 30 series for the 30 series FE and did work with the 3090 Ti because the pins were optional.  EVGA was planning to make an updated cable 16 pin (with sense) for 40 series, but, this was never released.
 
Third party companies make cables that will work with EVGA PSU's.  The sense pins can be grounded in certain ways so they function without a true ATX 3.0 power supply.  That's what these third party cables do.  For these types of cables, the user needs to make sure the PSU has ample wattage to support the GPU's power demands (same as the trusty 8 pin cables we've been using for years).  This is also what the adapter cables that come with the GPU do, you plug 8-pin cables into the adapter and the sense pins are used with the adapter.
 
A true ATX 3.0 PSU is supposed to have some intelligence and not allow a GPU to pull more power than the PSU can provide.  The sense pins can be used to limit the amount of power that that the GPU is "allowed" to pull (well, technically the cable/sense pins are configured properly and the GPU sees this and limits based on the sense pins).
 
Third party cables:
Cablemod makes one though.  Others might too.
 
https://cablemod.com/product-category/12vhpwr/12vhpwr-pci-e-cable/?filter_series=e-series
 
https://usstore.cablemod....r/12vhpwr-pci-e-cable/
post edited by vcbb10 - 2024/03/09 16:03:55

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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2024/03/13 19:05:44 (permalink)
For some reason I am having an intermittent problem viewing the EVGA forum Properly.
I can"t view page 1 of this thread so I don't know if it has been mentioned.
I will not use a direct cable from the Power supply to the new 4090's...
Their is an issue if you have to remove the cable from the 4090...
There is a limited number of times you can re and re the cable from the 4090.
(something like 20?)
IMO they have created a weakness in the 12 pin connector and it should remain plugged in to the 4090...
I just bought a Seasonic 1300 Platinum that came with a special cable 2X 8 pin  for the 4090 that plugs directly into the PSU...I wouldn't dream of using it. I have a 3 MSI 4090's (1 liquid Suprim X and 2 X Trio Gaming ) and there adapter cables work perfectly.
I also have a FE 4090 and it too works perfectly with oem adapter. ( the MSI's work harder than the FE...more points per day on average)
That is all...





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Re: Will the EVGA PerFE 12 work on 4090 GPUs? 2024/03/13 19:39:14 (permalink)
One of the theory's Gamer's Nexus had early on was that repeated plugging/unplugging of the 16 pin connector would cause wear and FOD in the connector and issue.  Which is true, I think the insertion rating (number of times you can plug/unplug a connector) of the connector is lower than 8 pin.  That's another thing that when combined with the low safety margin of the connector can contribute to issues.  Looking online, the insertion rating is 30 mating cycles for the connector.
 
I'd still opt for a direct to PSU cable for aesthetics instead of the adapter.  Direct to PSU is one less point of failure too (albeit you're using 8 pin power there, so very unlikely to be an issue).  You could also remove the 8 pin from the PSU, route through the case and not remove the 16 pin from the GPU when changing something.  Probably unnecessary though.  I think the insertion rating is high enough to not mess with that.

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