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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:07 PM
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I dont think they are officially supported it may still work though buts its not ideal to use an unsupported CPU. The Dual Socket EVGA Classified SR-2 boards based of Intels server 5520 chipset supports that processor though.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:12 PM
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Moltenlava I dont think they are officially supported it may still work though buts its not ideal to use an unsupported CPU. The Dual Socket EVGA Classified SR-2 boards based of Intels server 5520 chipset supports that processor though. Intend on picking up that board when it's released.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:18 PM
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Hey Zeus Moltenlava I dont think they are officially supported it may still work though buts its not ideal to use an unsupported CPU. The Dual Socket EVGA Classified SR-2 boards based of Intels server 5520 chipset supports that processor though. Intend on picking up that board when it's released. That will be a powerful set-up, i dont need that much power but the fact you can use the lower-end Xeon 6 core SKU's on the SR-2makes it tempting, your only option at the moment for the X58 chipset is the 980X.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:22 PM
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Moltenlava Hey Zeus Moltenlava I dont think they are officially supported it may still work though buts its not ideal to use an unsupported CPU. The Dual Socket EVGA Classified SR-2 boards based of Intels server 5520 chipset supports that processor though. Intend on picking up that board when it's released. That will be a powerful set-up, i dont need that much power but the fact you can use the lower-end Xeon 6 core SKU's on the SR-2makes it tempting, your only option at the moment for the X58 chipset is the 980X. I already ordered the classified so i'm going to drop her in no matter what and see what happens. Really want to see how the die shrink of bloomfield benches Anyone at EVGA want to create me a beta bios? :)
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:21 PM
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If the classified had problems running the 55xx series Xeon the rest assured the 56xx will have problems. I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. That was with latest bios. You will need to flash to at least 44 before attempting. Also. I asked Jacob back when 44 released and he said there is no plan for 55xx or 56xx support for the classified boards.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:36 PM
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ShockTheMonky If the classified had problems running the 55xx series Xeon the rest assured the 56xx will have problems. I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. That was with latest bios. You will need to flash to at least 44 before attempting. Also. I asked Jacob back when 44 released and he said there is no plan for 55xx or 56xx support for the classified boards. Hmm.. Maybe i should rethink this order and look into the P6T6. Thanks guys
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 0:16 PM
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Hey Zeus ShockTheMonky If the classified had problems running the 55xx series Xeon the rest assured the 56xx will have problems. I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. That was with latest bios. You will need to flash to at least 44 before attempting. Also. I asked Jacob back when 44 released and he said there is no plan for 55xx or 56xx support for the classified boards. Hmm.. Maybe i should rethink this order and look into the P6T6. Thanks guys I would have thought this was down to Intel not providing the Microcode for those CPU's with the X58 chipset and not down to EVGA being unwilling to support them but that said i do remmeber someone saying that an Xeon ES sample of Westmere did work on an ASUS board due to BIOS support but the same CPU wouldnt work on the Classified, i was under the impression that intel didnt want its 6 Core 55xx/56xx Xeon line to cross over to the Dekstop chipset. Maybe ASUS has the resources to allow this itself where EVGA doesnt.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 0:44 PM
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If Shock has tried it and it didnt work out....then I would listen to him and take his advice very fully. Unless you get lucky, who knows. But with the amount of doubt here, I would get a supported CPU.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 0:57 PM
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Someone at foldingforum.org is running a 5550 on an x58 board, but it's not the Classified: http://foldingforum.org/v...1&start=15#p137944 "I can now confirm that the EVGA 121-BL-E756-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 Micro ATX Motherboard supports the X5500 Series of Processors. Have one in my HTPC now and runs great with my X5550 cpu."
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:09 AM
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Punchy Someone at foldingforum.org is running a 5550 on an x58 board, but it's not the Classified: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13891&start=15#p137944 "I can now confirm that the EVGA 121-BL-E756-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 Micro ATX Motherboard supports the X5500 Series of Processors. Have one in my HTPC now and runs great with my X5550 cpu." Stock speed or OC?
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:17 AM
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Actually you can run Westmere's, but a hard mod is required: http://kingpincooling.com..um/showthread.php?t=599 remember search is your friend A simple <cough> BIOS <cough> microcode update would suffice but what's a few hoops to jump through for us enthusiasts anyway?
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 1:26 AM
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Governator Actually you can run Westmere's, but a hard mod is required: http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599 remember, search is your friend A simple <cough> BIOS <cough> microcode update would suffice but what's a few hoops to jump through for us enthusiasts anyway? All the mod does is disables the cpu to cpu link which basically turns it into a 35xx or 36xx Xeon. Would rather have the code update tho.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:21 AM
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Moltenlava Hey Zeus ShockTheMonky If the classified had problems running the 55xx series Xeon the rest assured the 56xx will have problems. I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. That was with latest bios. You will need to flash to at least 44 before attempting. Also. I asked Jacob back when 44 released and he said there is no plan for 55xx or 56xx support for the classified boards. Hmm.. Maybe i should rethink this order and look into the P6T6. Thanks guys I would have thought this was down to Intel not providing the Microcode for those CPU's with the X58 chipset and not down to EVGA being unwilling to support them but that said i do remmeber someone saying that an Xeon ES sample of Westmere did work on an ASUS board due to BIOS support but the same CPU wouldnt work on the Classified, i was under the impression that intel didnt want its 6 Core 55xx/56xx Xeon line to cross over to the Dekstop chipset. Maybe ASUS has the resources to allow this itself where EVGA doesnt. Sucks no matter what the reason because i don't want an asus board. Have fallen inlove with EVGA boards. When does the SR2 come out? It supports the 5600 series Xeon's and isn't the 5520 Chipset just another name for X58? Why can't the code be added to a bios update and then flashed to the classified? EVGA gods help me. Make me a beta bios. I'll pay you :)
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:11 AM
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Moltenlava I would have thought this was down to Intel not providing the Microcode for those CPU's with the X58 chipset and not down to EVGA being unwilling to support them Asus and other vendors don't support all 5k series along with 3k and i7 in single-socket boards, just a few. Except for Supermicro, there are no others. It comes down to market overlapping, Intel choose similar sockets for their convinience, not ours. Ultimately, I figure they wouldn't want to loose 3k or i7 sales if it is lost to a 5k CPU. ShockTheMonky I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. You mentioned this once regarding cold boot issues, what about air cooling or something more subtle? But how far can they be OC'd before running into signal issues not related to how the chip can OC? How is stock performance? What features aren't supported even at stock?
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:20 AM
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Also problems with Air. Would boot and run at stock but when loading down problems developed with memory. Would start dropping mem amounts (loose 2gig). BSODs, reboots. If OCing bclk, boot problems and instability.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:36 AM
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it's not just bios update. mod is probably required. production is already incorporating it at this time. you can email me at nickm@evga.com and we can help find a solution if you want to get the board working with westmere.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:55 AM
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I've been running a W5580 in an E760 classified for about a year with no issues. This is overclocked to 4.1 ghz.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:48 AM
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Hey Zeus Moltenlava Hey Zeus ShockTheMonky If the classified had problems running the 55xx series Xeon the rest assured the 56xx will have problems. I tried 2 55xx Xeons on my classified with no luck. That was with latest bios. You will need to flash to at least 44 before attempting. Also. I asked Jacob back when 44 released and he said there is no plan for 55xx or 56xx support for the classified boards. Hmm.. Maybe i should rethink this order and look into the P6T6. Thanks guys I would have thought this was down to Intel not providing the Microcode for those CPU's with the X58 chipset and not down to EVGA being unwilling to support them but that said i do remmeber someone saying that an Xeon ES sample of Westmere did work on an ASUS board due to BIOS support but the same CPU wouldnt work on the Classified, i was under the impression that intel didnt want its 6 Core 55xx/56xx Xeon line to cross over to the Dekstop chipset. Maybe ASUS has the resources to allow this itself where EVGA doesnt. Sucks no matter what the reason because i don't want an asus board. Have fallen inlove with EVGA boards. When does the SR2 come out? It supports the 5600 series Xeon's and isn't the 5520 Chipset just another name for X58? Why can't the code be added to a bios update and then flashed to the classified? EVGA gods help me. Make me a beta bios. I'll pay you :) seems EVGA is working on it, not sure if they are trying to get a "feature" for their future boards or whether they will have something that can be retro-fitted to all or some of its already released X58 boards. Yeah the X58 chipset is basically just the 5520 chipset with 1 QPI link disabled (the 5520 has 2 QPI links).
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:22 PM
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safield I've been running a W5580 in an E760 classified for about a year with no issues. This is overclocked to 4.1 ghz. Are you running 4.1 with multi or raised qpi? My problem with oc was with qpi increase. Since you have 5580 then reaching 4.1 with no qpi increase is no problem.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:03 PM
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EVGATech_NickM it's not just bios update. mod is probably required. production is already incorporating it at this time. you can email me at nickm@evga.com and we can help find a solution if you want to get the board working with westmere. Emailed Nick. Thanks safield I've been running a W5580 in an E760 classified for about a year with no issues. This is overclocked to 4.1 ghz. 5630 is a 32nm Westmere bro.. You have a 45nm Bloomfield
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 3:59 AM
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Anyone did the mod mentioned in the kingpincooling.com thread? Any clearer pic that you can post here? Am not as extreme as they are but I have a X5680 to test on a e759 Classified. Thanks in advance and more power to all....
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 5:39 AM
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ShockTheMonky Also problems with Air. Would boot and run at stock but when loading down problems developed with memory. Would start dropping mem amounts (loose 2gig). BSODs, reboots. If OCing bclk, boot problems and instability. Dashed my hopes of getting an L5600... safield I've been running a W5580 in an E760 classified for about a year with no issues. This is overclocked to 4.1 ghz. This contradicts ShockTheMonky's experience, I suppose it may be your batch number? EVGATech_NickM it's not just bios update. mod is probably required. production is already incorporating it at this time. you can email me at nickm@evga.com and we can help find a solution if you want to get the board working with westmere. Just to clarify, you are differenciating between Westemere Gulftown Xeon 5600 and Westemere Gulftown Xeon 3600, yes? Xeon W3680 = Core i7 980X, they are both single-QPI 32nm LGA1366 CPUs, there is no reason support won't come eventually (just like W35x0 = 45nm Core i7 900's). However the topic being discussed are the dual-CPU cousins, the Westmere Gulftown Xeon 5 6x0's, which like the 45nm Nehalem Gainestown 5 5x0's, are not default supported in many single-socket X58 boards. Hey Zeus 5630 is a 32nm Westmere bro.. You have a 45nm Bloomfield No, W5580 is a Gainestown, a 45nm dual-QPI CPU. maxxx.ph Anyone did the mod mentioned in the kingpincooling.com thread? Any clearer pic that you can post here? Am not as extreme as they are but I have a X5680 to test on a e759 Classified. Thanks in advance and more power to all.... I think it involves shorting (connecting two bare ended sodder points) on the board together. These points are small and I'm not so sure if a temporary pencil mod can suffice (which would be nice in terms of warrant/RMA, I'm not hip on bouncing my coverage just to force it).
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 5:43 AM
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ShockTheMonky Are you running 4.1 with multi or raised qpi? My problem with oc was with qpi increase. Since you have 5580 then reaching 4.1 with no qpi increase is no problem. That's why I asked him That.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 6:25 AM
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ShockTheMonky ShockTheMonky Are you running 4.1 with multi or raised qpi? My problem with oc was with qpi increase. Since you have 5580 then reaching 4.1 with no qpi increase is no problem. That's why I asked him That. Hold up, W5k's have unlocked multi's? Still doesn't exaplin how you could even run your CPUs at stock.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 9:58 AM
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I tried the Xeon E5520 with the classified 759 & 762. It ran at stock speeds (stable ?), well I ran at least 5 runs of LinX/all memory. I might have ran more runs. I'm not sure it was a while ago and did not keep any notes. Then went I started to OC no matter how I did it, nothing worked. I could get it to boot (sometimes) under 3.0GHz, but when I would start any program (like ShockTheMonky said) it would just crash, BSOD's, freezes, lose some memory, screen flashes, etc. It was like a dieing CPU. Anything over 3.0GHz it wouldn't even posted, had to clear the BIOS every time. (This was done on normal air) I did not try the disable one QPI mod and for me I see no reason to try it. I wish I had more info for the Regular Guy  but like I said, I did not keep any notes and that was many cpu's ago.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 12:54 AM
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W5580s are unlocked. They are like i7 965/975s with extra qpi. I said I could boot but also said it was unstable at stock.
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
Monday, April 05, 2010 11:33 PM
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I'm not saying at stock the E5520 was stable. Any cpu I get, I always run 5 passes of LinX at stock settings before I start OC'ing. I guess you can call it a little ritual I do (or it's OCD  ). I'm not saying either, that 5 runs of LinX is stable. I guess I'm not saying to much in this post  .
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Re:Will a westmere Xeon run on a Classified?
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Ordering my Classified tonight and going to forward the order number to Nick so he can have it modified and shipped to me. :) 60 dollars for overnight shipping is a "Holy ****" but meh.. Worth it
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