sidewaysout
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/11 16:22:49
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sidewaysout There are no winners in this :P
Winners: At least four sources are reliable sellers: EVGA, NewEgg, BestBuy, and MicroCenter. I may have missed some others, but others probably do not have a steady supply. Long waits are a big problem, but we have some chance with these sellers. Unsure: As far as Amazon, Ebay, and third party markets - these are probably overtaken with scalpers. Personally, I'm not interested in paying a scalper price. Losers: For those willing to pay a scalper then I think Ebay is probably a good choice - if you find a seller with plenty of good reviews. Otherwise, I'm sure it would be much worse to get scalped, have no warranty, and possibly not get what you ordered. Big losing.
Well put. or just wait for them to pop up used eventually. You can still get a 3080 in a custom shipped to you for as low as 2,000 from cyberpower as a frankenstein pc if you go as cheap as you can on the other components, but still almost like scalping prices
Good idea, I did not think of used market. Maybe there are used cards, with some sort of verification process, available in some forums. I've seen similar forums for used smartphones. But, I have not seen any forums for used video cards. I've looked at a couple of complete build sellers. But, so far, there were no sellers where I was *confident* of them having all the good bits to sell.
keep checking Facebook Marketplace ive had luck there before
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jamey19
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/13 13:33:55
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Thanks for all the replies. Everyone makes good points. I agree with the additional cost to the businesses.... which is why there would have to be a price increase, but nowhere near the scalper price. I was also exaggerating with the 5,000 cards per store... I just meant if my local store had a split of all of the online copies, scalpers wouldn't be able to wait in the line at the rates they buy online. Anyway, maybe it wouldn't work.... but the current method isn't so great either! Anyway, good luck to you all finding what you're looking for!
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/13 15:55:24
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In store purchase would be nice.
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Smithship
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/13 16:17:34
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Stickboy46 Which stores? What about people that don't live near those stores. They already sell a bunch at Microcenter, but a large chunk of the country doesn't live close enough to a Microcenter to go there. Also, the reason Best Buy doesn't have 5,000 cards per store, is because they can't make 5,000 cards per store. There was like 3500 TOTAL Founders Editions for the entire US (of 3080 ti)
Where did you find the information about 3500 total for entire US? Its got to be a good source for me to read....
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jamey19
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 15:20:59
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AMD has a new card coming soon... not sure of the designation. I'll look it up.
post edited by jamey19 - 2021/06/14 15:22:47
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 15:24:54
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Honestly if you check some small brick and mortar stores you can find cards, if you want to pay double MSRP that is.
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jamey19
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 15:26:55
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It's AMD W6800 and W6600 I believe... supposed to be their answer to 3090. Anyone know more??
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 16:09:46
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I'd much rather battle the bots for an online drop than line up with a group of people overnight at a Best Buy.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 16:12:27
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I have my new camping chair ready for the next in store release.
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jamey19
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 16:13:48
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Hey, maybe you could trade some interesting stories! haha... I know what you mean though. That was a deciding factor for me on the 3080ti... Plus with back problems even bringing a chair would be a pain for me. Kind of a no win situation I guess.
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shylastrikes123
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 16:42:03
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I think that it a better idea but not necessary for the company. Man, I hate scalpers and bots.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 17:45:07
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Rcjten I'd much rather battle the bots for an online drop than line up with a group of people overnight at a Best Buy.
Bots IRL
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shylastrikes123
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 17:48:22
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Rcjten I'd much rather battle the bots for an online drop than line up with a group of people overnight at a Best Buy.
Bots IRL
I meant ordering online and going to the store to pick it up like Best Buy does. They can verify your ID to make sure you aren't scalping.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:06:30
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People would camp bad he'd others
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:21:19
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Heeelhooked101 People would camp bad he'd others
Yeah, the camping and the fighting and such would get worse if they sold in stores more. I think it is more worth it to deal with a few bots than large crowds.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:25:04
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Heeelhooked101 People would camp bad he'd others
Yeah, the camping and the fighting and such would get worse if they sold in stores more. I think it is more worth it to deal with a few bots than large crowds.
How bad are the bots if you try to order from Amazon or Best Buy? I tried ordering from zotac but they only had the expensive 3080 in stock at $1300, the site was extreemely slow and asked me to do the captcha like 25 times.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:28:54
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Heeelhooked101 People would camp bad he'd others
Yeah, the camping and the fighting and such would get worse if they sold in stores more. I think it is more worth it to deal with a few bots than large crowds.
How bad are the bots if you try to order from Amazon or Best Buy? I tried ordering from zotac but they only had the expensive 3080 in stock at $1300, the site was extreemely slow and asked me to do the captcha like 25 times.
Terrible. I basically refreshed right as the last Best Buy drop went live and had four separate tabs up trying to secure a 3080 or 3060 and never got to the add to cart prompt. Everything was OOS within minutes and I don’t even think they had 3070ti’s drop when they said they were available. (Don’t quote me on that)
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:30:35
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Super frustrating. Just trying to finish up my rig...
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 18:33:57
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Heeelhooked101 People would camp bad he'd others
Yeah, the camping and the fighting and such would get worse if they sold in stores more. I think it is more worth it to deal with a few bots than large crowds.
How bad are the bots if you try to order from Amazon or Best Buy? I tried ordering from zotac but they only had the expensive 3080 in stock at $1300, the site was extreemely slow and asked me to do the captcha like 25 times.
Terrible.
I basically refreshed right as the last Best Buy drop went live and had four separate tabs up trying to secure a 3080 or 3060 and never got to the add to cart prompt.
Everything was OOS within minutes and I don’t even think they had 3070ti’s drop when they said they were available. (Don’t quote me on that)
When you say within minutes, do you mean that you have 2-5 minutes or like 15 seconds. Also, it is store dependant inventory or for the entire company. Because you would have a much better chance if it was store-dependant inventory I would think.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 20:44:56
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For me it was like 20 seconds to pick what i wanted, then 10 minutes of trying to get it in my cart (never actually did).... found out it sold out in 2-3 minutes maybe.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/14 21:02:44
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jamey19 For me it was like 20 seconds to pick what i wanted, then 10 minutes of trying to get it in my cart (never actually did).... found out it sold out in 2-3 minutes maybe.
That sucks. I'll try again at the next one but don't have high hopes.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 00:41:40
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Yup I second this I think one of the greatest ways to combat scalping and bots and get graphic cards in the hands of gamers would be by selling more cards in store idk why places dont do this tbh
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 00:52:53
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Heeelhooked101 People would camp bad he'd others
Yeah, the camping and the fighting and such would get worse if they sold in stores more. I think it is more worth it to deal with a few bots than large crowds.
How bad are the bots if you try to order from Amazon or Best Buy? I tried ordering from zotac but they only had the expensive 3080 in stock at $1300, the site was extreemely slow and asked me to do the captcha like 25 times.
It's nearly impossible to beat them in my experience. Even if you get there immediately, within seconds, and manage to get one into your cart - no small feat given how overwhelmed the sites are right after a drop - it's very likely that the inventory will disappear by the time you get to the order confirmation page. I've been battling Amazon for a while trying to buy cards when they drop and the site always finds a way to hold me back (long load times, errors, etc.). I've never made it through to a purchase.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 00:53:24
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Probably has to do with liabilities and employee safety.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 01:00:56
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jamey19 I was thinking recently… why doesn’t EVGA or another manufacturer just sell all of their cards in stores? No online sales, no bots… yes, scalpers will get in lines, but if 1 scalper with a bot online can buy 10,000 cards, then they’d need to wait in 10,000 lines to do so if it were a store only purchase. Which means they can’t do that. It wouldn’t even cost EVGA more because you just figure out the additional cost, add it into the product cost on top of MSRP… done. Everyone would get a fair chance including scalpers, miners, etc. everyone would have to pay a little more for it but I think any gamer would pay a $100 premium…think of the latest Best Buy ti in store drop where they had 50 cards. Well what if they had 5,000 every few weeks? Yeah it would be a long line, but everyone could get a card….
Oh and whichever brand does it, wouldn’t gamers love them?? They could take market share too.
Because we live in a cyberpunk hellworld where only bots and hackers win. Welcome to the darkest timeline.
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 13:15:20
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If I knew the opportunity was there to stand out for hours for the card I wanted I would do it, only best buy lines on release were for founders cards
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 13:35:29
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I read scalpers are paying people to stand in line so they can grab as many cards as possible from physical locations
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/15 16:05:03
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mandrakescz I think is safer staying out of crowded places
Heh, with the COVID vaccine i've suddenly regained the will to sacrifice time and comfort to sit in a sleeping bag out front of a bestbuy again.
The sky is my only limit!
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Re: Why not just sell cards in stores?
2021/06/16 01:33:34
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