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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/18 11:16:39 (permalink)
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Have they discontinued the hybrid kit for the 2080TI FTW3 Ultra?



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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/18 11:36:52 (permalink)
Just wanted to make sure. I thought I just misread but if they had, I was about to grab one before they vanished lol

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/18 15:01:09 (permalink)

 
Probably would have been faster to look at their products then write that question out...
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/24 10:36:24 (permalink)

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/24 13:08:56 (permalink)
You've listed the non ti variant...
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/08/24 14:15:24 (permalink)
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You've listed the non ti variant...

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/11/22 11:30:12 (permalink)
Sorry to resurrect a thread from August, but this is so disappointing. I bought the NZXT G12 and I'm super unsatisfied with it. I wanted a proper AIO kit that would cover cooling for the RAM and VRM properly, instead of me just thermal taping little heatsinks to everything.
Does anyone know if this will ever be stocked again?
Also, how does the Alphacool RTX 2080 Ti AIO kit compare? I might just end up going with that seeing as how EVGA probably won't be making the reference PCB AIO kits anymore.

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/11/22 12:46:21 (permalink)
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Sorry to resurrect a thread from August, but this is so disappointing. I bought the NZXT G12 and I'm super unsatisfied with it. I wanted a proper AIO kit that would cover cooling for the RAM and VRM properly, instead of me just thermal taping little heatsinks to everything.
Does anyone know if this will ever be stocked again?
Also, how does the Alphacool RTX 2080 Ti AIO kit compare? I might just end up going with that seeing as how EVGA probably won't be making the reference PCB AIO kits anymore.




I recommend the G12 when EVGA's hybrids are no where to be found and people have been happy with them.
 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/11/29 22:11:15 (permalink)
I have been using Silent Loop 280 for some time now - see the solution from Gamersnexus. PWM and RAM cooled by two fans. Working very well, but it is far from being elegant and nice. It has been discussed before - IMHO the XC cooler is too feeble to cool the monster chip of 2080Ti. What lies beneath the decision to stop producing the hybrid kit from EVGA we can only speculate. But “lack of interest” it is not for sure..

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/01 21:48:40 (permalink)
Dont shoot me down, I am just sayin'.
Not sure why anyone would spend the big money on a 2080/ti, only to throw a cheezie aio on it. If you have the cash to buy a 2080 or 2080ti, why skimp on a half-assed cooling solution? For not much more effort, you could put a simple custom loop together. With a REAL water block, far better cooling, and the satisfaction you did it yourself.
 
I believe there are issues with the HydroCopper blocks as well. I have read in the forum here and elsewhere that temps are unacceptable for a full cover water block. Although I have been a diehard Heatkiller user for years, I seriously looked at getting the HydroCopper for my new RTX 2070 Super this round. I chose the HC block purely for the aesthetics. It looked great, had EVGA plastered all over it making it look factory, and I never heard any complaints on previous versions. I was  ac tually surprised I could find one easily. But after pricing one out with shipping, it was more than $150 more to my door than the Watercool Heatkiller block (that I know and trust) I was also looking at. Cost prevailed and I went with the Heatkiller. It wasnt until after I purchased the Heatkiller block, that I read about the hydroCopper issues. Kinda glad I stuck with Watercool.
 
Anyways and not to let the cat out of the bag, just buy the reference card, throw a full cover water block on it, and you can clock it higher than the baddest top end card of that series (short of the KP card and LN2). My RTX 2070 Super (08G-P4-3071-KR) games at 2100mhz - core / 2000mhz - memory, all day long. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/180375
 
 

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/01 22:23:50 (permalink)
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Dont shoot me down, I am just sayin'.
Not sure why anyone would spend the big money on a 2080/ti, only to throw a cheezie aio on it. If you have the cash to buy a 2080 or 2080ti, why skimp on a half-assed cooling solution? For not much more effort, you could put a simple custom loop together. With a REAL water block, far better cooling, and the satisfaction you did it yourself.
 
I believe there are issues with the HydroCopper blocks as well. I have read in the forum here and elsewhere that temps are unacceptable for a full cover water block. Although I have been a diehard Heatkiller user for years, I seriously looked at getting the HydroCopper for my new RTX 2070 Super this round. I chose the HC block purely for the aesthetics. It looked great, had EVGA plastered all over it making it look factory, and I never heard any complaints on previous versions. I was  ac tually surprised I could find one easily. But after pricing one out with shipping, it was more than $150 more to my door than the Watercool Heatkiller block (that I know and trust) I was also looking at. Cost prevailed and I went with the Heatkiller. It wasnt until after I purchased the Heatkiller block, that I read about the hydroCopper issues. Kinda glad I stuck with Watercool.
 
Anyways and not to let the cat out of the bag, just buy the reference card, throw a full cover water block on it, and you can clock it higher than the baddest top end card of that series (short of the KP card and LN2). My RTX 2070 Super (08G-P4-3071-KR) games at 2100mhz - core / 2000mhz - memory, all day long. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/180375
 


While I agree with you, I wouldn't make it sound like they should just get up and go purchase a custom loop without doing their due diligence of research into custom cooling so they can purchase the right things and be well informed on maintenance.  It's not a plug and play buy and everyone should know that. 
 
See, that's where AIOs come into play (maintenance free) and with the right conditions without breaking the bank, you can actually get some really great temps being very close to custom (dependent on loop setup of course) like some have with their KingPin's 240mm AIO but at the end of the day, I agree that nothing comes close to custom liquid cooling and can't become too complacent when issues arise.

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/02 01:24:29 (permalink)
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Dont shoot me down, I am just sayin'.
Not sure why anyone would spend the big money on a 2080/ti, only to throw a cheezie aio on it. If you have the cash to buy a 2080 or 2080ti, why skimp on a half-assed cooling solution? For not much more effort, you could put a simple custom loop together. With a REAL water block, far better cooling, and the satisfaction you did it yourself.
 
I believe there are issues with the HydroCopper blocks as well. I have read in the forum here and elsewhere that temps are unacceptable for a full cover water block. Although I have been a diehard Heatkiller user for years, I seriously looked at getting the HydroCopper for my new RTX 2070 Super this round. I chose the HC block purely for the aesthetics. It looked great, had EVGA plastered all over it making it look factory, and I never heard any complaints on previous versions. I was  ac tually surprised I could find one easily. But after pricing one out with shipping, it was more than $150 more to my door than the Watercool Heatkiller block (that I know and trust) I was also looking at. Cost prevailed and I went with the Heatkiller. It wasnt until after I purchased the Heatkiller block, that I read about the hydroCopper issues. Kinda glad I stuck with Watercool.
 
Anyways and not to let the cat out of the bag, just buy the reference card, throw a full cover water block on it, and you can clock it higher than the baddest top end card of that series (short of the KP card and LN2). My RTX 2070 Super (08G-P4-3071-KR) games at 2100mhz - core / 2000mhz - memory, all day long. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/180375
 


While I agree with you, I wouldn't make it sound like they should just get up and go purchase a custom loop without doing their due diligence of research into custom cooling so they can purchase the right things and be well informed on maintenance.  It's not a plug and play buy and everyone should know that. 
 
See, that's where AIOs come into play (maintenance free) and with the right conditions without breaking the bank, you can actually get some really great temps being very close to custom (dependent on loop setup of course) like some have with their KingPin's 240mm AIO but at the end of the day, I agree that nothing comes close to custom liquid cooling and can't become too complacent when issues arise.




While I can agree with you as well, there are a couple of points to be made.
 
"doing their due diligence of research into custom cooling"
I agree, 100%. That comes with any project/undertaking. Including tearing apart a perfectly good video card.
As well, if you look at the cost of buying a 2070 or 2080, and then buying the Hybrid cooler separately, it was likely cheaper to buy the reference card and a proper water block.
I havent had one EVGA reference video card that didnt easily clock to above it's highest clocked counterpart. Back in the GTX480, GTX580, GTX680 days, I was a monster in EVGA forum with some 3DMark benchmarks. All using reference cards.
 
 
"It's not a plug and play buy and everyone should know that."
Well, I would have to disagree with that statement. Custom PC water cooling has advanced considerably over the years. In my opinion, it is almost, if not, plug n play today. If a person is competent enough to install an GPU AIO on his/her own, or select components and assemble a new PC, then it would be reasonable to assume that same person could successfully fashion together a simple custom loop.
 
Man, I only have a 2070 and I didnt for one second consider AIO cooling. I ordered the Heatkiller water block the same day I ordered the RTX2070. I couldnt even imagine myself putting an AIO on a 2080 or 2080 ti. That is sacrilege. LOl.
My 2070 was replacing 2 aged water cooled GTX680's in SLI. My CPU is custom water cooled as well as the GTX680's in the same single loop. My OCD got the best of me. Leaving the RTX 2070 in stock form was not an option. With that said, I was actually quite impressed with the stock air cooling. If I wasnt benchmarking, and just gaming, the stock air cooling would have been sufficient. The card overclocked very well with stock air cooling.
 
My bottom line and point being is this: If you are going to buy the baddest card out there and going to mod it, why go with sub-par cooling? Go big or go home!
 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/02 01:43:31 (permalink)
It's nice to see how EVGA resolve temperatures on RTX2080Ti K|NGP|N.
Owners should be happy and proud because from every side card is excellent.
Maintenance is main advantage of AIO Liquid cooling. From my perspective it's easier to clean then Air coolers.
You can install paste on 3-5 AIO systems while owner of Air cooler replace paste on 1.
With custom loop you need 1h.
 

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/02 03:27:11 (permalink)
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Dont shoot me down, I am just sayin'.
Not sure why anyone would spend the big money on a 2080/ti, only to throw a cheezie aio on it. If you have the cash to buy a 2080 or 2080ti, why skimp on a half-assed cooling solution? For not much more effort, you could put a simple custom loop together. With a REAL water block, far better cooling, and the satisfaction you did it yourself.
 
I believe there are issues with the HydroCopper blocks as well. I have read in the forum here and elsewhere that temps are unacceptable for a full cover water block. Although I have been a diehard Heatkiller user for years, I seriously looked at getting the HydroCopper for my new RTX 2070 Super this round. I chose the HC block purely for the aesthetics. It looked great, had EVGA plastered all over it making it look factory, and I never heard any complaints on previous versions. I was  ac tually surprised I could find one easily. But after pricing one out with shipping, it was more than $150 more to my door than the Watercool Heatkiller block (that I know and trust) I was also looking at. Cost prevailed and I went with the Heatkiller. It wasnt until after I purchased the Heatkiller block, that I read about the hydroCopper issues. Kinda glad I stuck with Watercool.
 
Anyways and not to let the cat out of the bag, just buy the reference card, throw a full cover water block on it, and you can clock it higher than the baddest top end card of that series (short of the KP card and LN2). My RTX 2070 Super (08G-P4-3071-KR) games at 2100mhz - core / 2000mhz - memory, all day long. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/180375
 


While I agree with you, I wouldn't make it sound like they should just get up and go purchase a custom loop without doing their due diligence of research into custom cooling so they can purchase the right things and be well informed on maintenance.  It's not a plug and play buy and everyone should know that. 
 
See, that's where AIOs come into play (maintenance free) and with the right conditions without breaking the bank, you can actually get some really great temps being very close to custom (dependent on loop setup of course) like some have with their KingPin's 240mm AIO but at the end of the day, I agree that nothing comes close to custom liquid cooling and can't become too complacent when issues arise.




I agree with GTX, they did a great job on the Kingpin 2080ti AIO setup going to 240mm and the newer pump style, that should be a minimum standard for hybrid kits, 120mm just doesn't cut it. 




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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/16 14:33:02 (permalink)
Yeah, but for the Kingpin version ($1800), which is $700 more expensive than the Black version ($1100) with the fans, is the AIO kit really worth $700?  I don't think so.  Seems to me the card line is overpriced to start, and lets fleece the folks that want hybrid cooling further.  Nothing like buying a top line graphics card and then having to cobble together cooling with 3rd party parts.  I'd prefer their (EVGA) AIO solution as it provides the heat sink blocks for the non GPU chips (vs the G12 3rd party way where I'd stick on individual heat sinks on each IC).. but that isn't $300 much less $700 worth of value... could almost get a 2nd card for that price.
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/16 18:57:29 (permalink)
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Yeah, but for the Kingpin version ($1800), which is $700 more expensive than the Black version ($1100) with the fans, is the AIO kit really worth $700?  I don't think so.  Seems to me the card line is overpriced to start, and lets fleece the folks that want hybrid cooling further.  Nothing like buying a top line graphics card and then having to cobble together cooling with 3rd party parts.  I'd prefer their (EVGA) AIO solution as it provides the heat sink blocks for the non GPU chips (vs the G12 3rd party way where I'd stick on individual heat sinks on each IC).. but that isn't $300 much less $700 worth of value... could almost get a 2nd card for that price.




You aren't just paying for a AIO at $700+ more but for a binned chip on a custom PCB with a beefed up VRM like no other for extreme OCing and extreme cooling while being supplied a 240mm AIO cooler + display, designed by two overclocking giants (Kingpin and Tin).

Why would you need another hybrid kit for a Kingpin when it already comes with one?  If you're referencing a base model 2080 Ti Black, a G12 with a compatible 240mm AIO should run even cooler than a 120mm AIO.  Some might argue it might be even quieter.

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/16 18:58:22 (permalink)
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Yeah, but for the Kingpin version ($1800), which is $700 more expensive than the Black version ($1100) with the fans, is the AIO kit really worth $700?  I don't think so.  Seems to me the card line is overpriced to start, and lets fleece the folks that want hybrid cooling further.  Nothing like buying a top line graphics card and then having to cobble together cooling with 3rd party parts.  I'd prefer their (EVGA) AIO solution as it provides the heat sink blocks for the non GPU chips (vs the G12 3rd party way where I'd stick on individual heat sinks on each IC).. but that isn't $300 much less $700 worth of value... could almost get a 2nd card for that price.




 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/16 19:26:33 (permalink)
Yeah I’m taking about based on the Black base version. I don’t need or want the over clocking potential nor binned chips. I only want a 2080ti that is as quiet as possible and the hybrid cooler add on would do that. My point is buying the kingpin for the hybrid cooler is not a good value.
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/17 06:41:40 (permalink)
2000€ for a graphic card is pretty insane, it is not a good value at all -))
Even 1100€+ is very very steep. I hope that AMD has got something up their sleeve - no competition = high prices .

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/17 06:42:46 (permalink)
But apart from that - Christmas is here and EVGA EU has no 2080Ti s for sale..

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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/18 12:32:20 (permalink)
The pump on the Kingpin is noisy not because of design but because it runs at fixed 100% all the time. It's beyond my understanding why it does, it will just wear out after the warranty expires...
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/18 21:43:03 (permalink)
The 400-HY-1384-B1 was discontinued even though demand for it was high enough to sell out minutes after each batch was made and notification emails went out.  Their response to me below:
 
[my email], thank you for contacting the EVGA Customer Service Team. My name is Daniel McNamara and I will answer your question today
 
Hello

Thanks for reaching out. As the card you have is NVIDIA reference we no longer manufacture a Hybrid Kit for the 2080Ti, only the one for the EVGA custom PCB (FTW3). We do apologize but the only recommendation for water cooling your card would be to use a custom waterblock. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. 


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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/18 22:35:16 (permalink)
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The 400-HY-1384-B1 was discontinued even though demand for it was high enough to sell out minutes after each batch was made and notification emails went out.  Their response to me below:
 
[my email], thank you for contacting the EVGA Customer Service Team. My name is Daniel McNamara and I will answer your question today
 
Hello

Thanks for reaching out. As the card you have is NVIDIA reference we no longer manufacture a Hybrid Kit for the 2080Ti, only the one for the EVGA custom PCB (FTW3). We do apologize but the only recommendation for water cooling your card would be to use a custom waterblock. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. 


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EVGA

Sounds like a "non-technical" reason to me, if you get what I mean. Licensing? Come to think of it, it's a piece of plastic to hold a pump and heatsink(s) in place. Why isn't there more companies making this in the first place? Exclusive licensing rights between EVGA and NVIDIA which is now expired?
Would've appeased more people if they said "because we can't fix that buzzing pump noise without throwing in that magnet".

 

 
 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/19 07:33:07 (permalink)
supply chain management ... Asetek makes the pumps for EVGA
 
Businesses have to invest Capital & Inventory space to Products based on their plans & Marketing Forcasts
 
Minimum production runs, Mfg process availability, and the time & demand before the Next generation of Nvidia products launch are part of the Equation
 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/19 07:55:06 (permalink)
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supply chain management ... Asetek makes the pumps for EVGA
 
Businesses have to invest Capital & Inventory space to Products based on their plans & Marketing Forcasts
 
Minimum production runs, Mfg process availability, and the time & demand before the Next generation of Nvidia products launch are part of the Equation
 
You can continue to speculate all you want .... EVGA made "X" number of units & they Sold Out (as usual)




+1  This
 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2019/12/22 09:33:50 (permalink)
Corsair has a kit made for it- but its $160 and testing does not show that it gets around the power curve restriction set for RTX cards. 
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2020/01/25 01:33:48 (permalink)
I want the 400-HY-1384-B1 because it was made for my card the 11G-P4-2281-KR... no overclocking, just tired of it sounding like a fighter jet every time I play a game.  Don't want a custom loop cause I personally DO NOT LIKE THEM.  NZXT G12... looks like crap, have to tape heat-sinks on the VRM, and cannot plug into the cards fan controllers.  So card was end of life shortly after release then why do you still sell it if you won't properly support it like you use to?
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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2020/01/26 03:10:04 (permalink)
The thing with custom loops is that it requires maintenance and is a nuisance when you want to change video card for example.

AIO is plug in and play. Also the performance between AIO and custom loop isn’t THAT huge anymore for normal everyday use.


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Re: Why did EVGA discontinue the 2080 ti Hybrid kit 2020/01/26 04:55:39 (permalink)
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The thing with custom loops is that it requires maintenance and is a nuisance when you want to change video card for example.




+1
 
Not just GPUs but any other components you'll possibly need to disassemble the loop.  The pay off?  Much quieter running and cooler temps if done right.
 
Once it's dialed in, all you'll need to do is drain and refills annually as long as the loop doesn't need any further maintenance to it.
 
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AIO is plug in and play. Also the performance between AIO and custom loop isn’t THAT huge anymore for normal everyday use.
 



Kinda but not really.  A single 120mm AIO will get walked on by custom loops.  Even if you get 240mm/360mm, a custom loop can still beat it but obviously not as bad as the 120mm.

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