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I purchased a butt-load of 460's and now I feel burned since PG released the 6800 and 6811 WU's. I was thinking of upgrading my video cards and trying to sell the 460's. Any thoughts?
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:29:33
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Your going to loose a bit of $$ selling those 460's but have you given any though on waiting for the GTX 570?
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:37:03
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I don't know. If the atom count continues to grow by magnitudes the 570 might not be the way to go. The 595 could be interesting if I can use all the cores for Folding.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:38:37
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The 580's have the extra shaders, which I think could benefit the larger p6811 work units some. The 580's also have improved cooling. However, both cards should be perfectly fine for folding. The other consideration is power draw. 10 of either of those cards will draw quite a bit of power. You probably want at least one 30A circuit if not two.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:38:40
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So I guess your talking about selling off the 460's now and waiting for a while?
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:39:18
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I'm curious if EVGA will have a Black Friday sale on any of the 580's. Or for that matter when they will get more in stock.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:41:31
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So I guess your talking about selling off the 460's now and waiting for a while?
I'd rather buy the new cards and then sell the 460's. I can't find anywhere that has the 580's in stock. Although it would be easy enough to buy the 480's.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:42:40
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I was thinking of getting some 430s for folding but with these 6800s that can be had without the advmethods flag they dont seem like that good of a choice anymore for a small cheep GPU farm.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:45:05
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I agree. I just bought one 430 before the 6800's came out. I haven't even put it in one of my rigs.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:49:41
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If you really want the most points for your money, SR-2's are really the way to go, the bonus points are ridiculous and broken.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 11:53:55
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There's an awful lot of work that has to be done to make the SR-2 worth it for me. If I went the -bigadv route I was thinking more about using a proper server board. Maybe a 4-way with 12 processor Magny Cours. For now I'm just looking at video cards.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 12:31:25
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i think go with the 580s less power it mite be about 25w each, which x10 is like running an extra graphics card and if the 595 come out i think it would be the most effective and for the purchase you could try going to evga directly and see if you can get the price a little lower for the bulk buy
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 12:34:00
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i think go with the 580s less power it mite be about 25w each, which x10 is like running an extra graphics card
and if the 595 come out i think it would be the most effective and for the purchase you could try going to evga directly and see if you can get the price a little lower for the bulk buy
Okay, I'll give it a shot.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/23 22:54:43
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I think the 595 will be like a 295, 2 GPU's slapped on one card, so I don't think it will perform as good.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/24 19:21:29
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You can pick the 480s up for cheap if you don't care about the warranty. It will save you a lot of money over the 580. The 580 will cost you more but it might be worth it considering the warranty, extra shaders, consumes less power, and runs cooler. Can you step-up from your 460s? If so I think that may be the best option. You could wait in step-up que until the 580s come in stock. http://www.evga.com/stepup/
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/25 16:07:51
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/27 12:17:38
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You could probably build an sr-2 rig for the price of those 10 580s and have around 75% of the ppd for under 600W. If you have enough money that 3000W per hour isn't a financial problem for you, then build 2 sr-2 rigs and have about 50% more ppd than the 580s for still under half the electricity. The other way to look at those 460s is that the 6800wus still produce about 1-1.5Kppd more than the origional 10632 wus.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/27 14:01:18
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580's for sure would be better no doubt, More PPD and Less Power Usage. I see the prize list on the 10/10/10 contest got changed from GTX 460 stepping up to GTX 580 as well
post edited by _Nite_ - 2010/11/27 14:41:59
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/27 14:42:51
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I would say get the 580's they run cooler, and have just about the same if not less power draw, and if you wouldn't mind I'll trade you my 480 for one :p
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/27 14:44:59
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shogon I would say get the 580's they run cooler, and have just about the same if not less power draw, and if you wouldn't mind I'll trade you my 480 for one :p It's less. the GTX 480 is 300w on load, the GTX 580 is 240w on load.
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Re:Which would be a better value for Folding? 10 - 480's or 10 - 580's?
2010/11/27 17:25:12
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brcromer I purchased a butt-load of 460's and now I feel burned since PG released the 6800 and 6811 WU's. I was thinking of upgrading my video cards and trying to sell the 460's. Any thoughts? This is why I have a mixture of clients and don't put all of my eggs in one basket. It's exactly why I would never invest in an SR-2 or a 4-way with 12 processor Magny Cours. How many cores does the SMP client currently support? Get a couple 470 or 580 cards if you can't wait but don't buy 10 and make the same mistake twice! I'm waiting for the 570 release before I upgrade anything. http://www.fudzilla.com/g...rce-gtx-570-comes-soon The interesting point is that this card should offer similar of faster performance than the GTX 480 at a lower price simply as the shader count is the same, and this new chip clocks higher. brcromer I don't know. If the atom count continues to grow by magnitudes the 570 might not be the way to go. The 595 could be interesting if I can use all the cores for Folding. I honestly don't think you could go wrong with a couple GTX 470, 480, or 580 cards. The GTX 260, 275, 285, and 295 cards are still doing well. The budgets cards are good too but I've always leaned towards the faster cards. You would think that they would have smaller WUs for the low-mid range Fermis, and big WUs for the faster cards. I'm not sold on the GTX 595. It will require two GPU clients like the GTX 295 and 9800 GX2. The dual GPU-based graphics cards fold the same as any other two GPUs with similar specs. But I wonder how they plan on cooling the 595!? Will it be a 3 slot design or mandatory water cooling ;) We will need 2000W power supplies for multiple cards. Hopefully they can pull it off! I wonder what 4 or 10 GPUs would be like. Good thing winter is finally here. All we need to do is open the windows! lol http://www.hardocp.com/ar...80_video_card_review/8 Gaming on the GTX 480 SLI configuration amounts to have a space heater under your desk. It can raise the temperature in my office almost 10 degrees if left running overnight, and that is with the AC on! I finally went as far as to construct a ducting system under my desk to channel the belching wave of heat in a direction other than my own. Not too many things can break me away from a good round of Civ5, but a 500 watt blow dryer pointed up your thighs can make you call it a night fairly quickly.
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