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Hello ! I'm asking this because I feel a little bit lonely about this... I dont want to put pads myself, I dont want to touch my computer, I just want to games and forget about all this vulgar language removed So I use an agressive curve fan (my rig made a lot of noise even without graphic card so... ) and I have 50 degres in normal games, 55 in Battlefield 1 for example. I'm not benchmarking, no overclocking, just games, games and games again  Am I safe ? There is member here who wont put this  pads ?
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 04:05:15
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lets's say it was a gpu chip thermal issue, would you be comfortable running it at 85c for years?
(mind you 85c is still within specs)
or would you try to reseat the cooling? it'll be a problem especially when games start pushing the card
same goes for vrms and vram, but you cant monitor them
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 04:12:59
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If it's within specs... it's normal no ? Just high but normal...
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 04:34:50
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Nope, most likely will not even update BIOS. I have 3 years to run the wheels off of my cards. If they take a dive in that time frame I RMA go do it again. And yes If I had any other 10xx series I'd do the same. 2x 1060 FTW's Folding at home 24/7 85-100% GPU usage @ all times. MSI AB controlled fans @ 55-60% fan speed. Open case and plenty of case fans for other items needing some sort of air flow for cooling.  Matter of fact for comparison 3x 980 Classified running the same program in a open case too (closed to get picture though) My bad they are running in a closed case, I do not open the side on this one since this case has very good air flow. Opening the case sides actually makes the temperatures rise a couple degrees. MSI AB controlling fans Running the wheels off of them too.............but there is a warranty still in place. I will run these until they die. Temps:  Quick Poor picture 980 Classies: 
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:18:03
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howdy2u2
Nope, most likely will not even update BIOS.
So you will not change anything too ? Because we are all here on this forum but we are a very limited number of 106/7/80 owners ! So we can say that we are gonna have a lot more owners who will never know about this issue at all...
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:22:49
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1070 sc here, I only updated bios, not using thermalpads. So far had no issues, I did do update of bios because It's a piece of cake and it doesn't even run that loud after applying new bios. It's not like you absolutely 100% will encounter a problem especially If you don't overclock and bring card to its limit with benchmarking tools such as fumark. If your card overheats anyway there's 3year warranty so I wouldn't worry too much.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:29:47
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I won't update the bios as I run a custom fan profile anyway, but will use the thermal pads. Why someone wouldn't use them is beyond me. All you stand to gain is lower temps. No harm done in anyway as you are covered by EVGA. People are blowing this out of proportion lol. To each their own though. By the time your warranty is up you'll buy a new card anyway 
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:35:13
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The problem is that GPU temperature is not VRM or other sensitive component temperature.
My temperatures were also fine and I updated the bios yesterday.
I ordered thermal pads but EVGA saying that it is not essential upgrade so for now I don't know if i should install them.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:40:20
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I run an aggressive fan curve, so I cant be bothered installing the new vBIOS. I also wont apply thermals pads, if this card dies within 3 years, I will just talk to my retailer and/or EVGA and will get a working one. I just highly doubt every EVGA card is going out in flames.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 05:46:54
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Glad to see I'm not the only one... Because everything works so fine at the moment, dont want to change or touch anything ! And yes I doubt too that every card will going out in flames, we are aware about those who have issues, they are less than 10 but there are several thousand of users who will never know whats happen right now and just enjoy the product... And also the 95 degres it's a furmark temperature and I have a more agressive fan ! So, I can suppose I'm under 90 degres for my VRM and the limit is 125 degres I'm right ?
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 06:21:23
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I ordered pads for my SC black, but after checking my Vram pads from the side and seeing FLIR imaging showing good temps on vrms where the card had no backplate, I think I may not instal the single pad either. (No pads on back for me because no back plate.)
I really think the backplate minus pads = oven.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 07:21:43
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ghost1990so I wouldn't worry too much.
I try but when you read this forum it's not easy, sometimes I've got the feeling that all evga cards without pads will burns if you read members here.. Dont know what to thing about this optionnal pads... Is this a really an option finally ?
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 07:43:39
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Most of the people freaking out have a really post count and are new. Meaning they are only here because of the panic. Feel free to ignore all of them.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 07:49:46
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But we agree that I cant be close to the 107 degres of tomshardware if I dont furmark and have my fan curve ?
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:06:43
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ilyama
But we agree that I cant be close to the 107 degres of tomshardware if I dont furmark and have my fan curve ?
Well, the tests show the card won't even get near that in gaming so yeah... I'd say you're safe.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:12:55
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This is a very annoying situation... I'm asking something.. I'm pretty sure of one thing, a lot of the people who says the pads are not necessary, I'm ready to bet they are gonna put the pads... That's why I opened this thread to know if I'm the only on this forum who will not put this ****** pads... In fact I will like to hear the voice of thoses with no pads and no problems...
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:12:58
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ilyama
howdy2u2
Nope, most likely will not even update BIOS.
So you will not change anything too ?
Because we are all here on this forum but we are a very limited number of 106/7/80 owners !
So we can say that we are gonna have a lot more owners who will never know about this issue at all...
Correct I am not changing anything, not installing pads or bios. I did order the pads since they were offered, they will be saved for install if I sell these (not likely to sell them BUT) and a future owner has concerns. My own fan profile is MORE aggressive than the new BIOS version probably is. I never have and never will allow the settings in the BIOS control my fans. I use MSI Afterburner to control my fans like I stated before. I do not believe in 0db fan profiles, I did not and do not build P/Cs to run games and fold at max and ultra settings and expect them to be so quiet you can hear a mouse fart. I am pretty sure with the blow up and over reaction to the temperature issues that unless you live in a cave most will have heard about this. If your a true enthusiast (as apparently you are) you know about it since it's smeared all over the net. If your an average user and do not overclock and have good case flow I am willing to bet you would never know. It wasn't until someone decided to run a bench test in a loop for an insane amount of time WITH access to a thermal imaging camera that anyone had a clue about VRM temperatures. If you can put those same demands on the card/ GPU VRM ETC ETC while running a game then I commend you!! Where are all the tests for prior series of GPUs with the same testing done? (actually I don't care) Probably/ Maybe? could be some out there, again I don't know and I don't care. I am not going to search for them and waste my time. My 1060's run, and have ran since installation at max. Am I worried? Not in the least.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:14:40
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ilyama
This is a very annoying situation...
I'm asking something.. I'm pretty sure of one thing, a lot of the people who says the pads are not necessary, I'm ready to bet they are gonna put the pads...
That's why I opened this thread to know if I'm the only on this forum who will not put this ****** pads...
Why not? It's really easy... You shouldn't let yourself be intimidated by it.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:19:39
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ilyama
This is a very annoying situation...
I'm asking something.. I'm pretty sure of one thing, a lot of the people who says the pads are not necessary, I'm ready to bet they are gonna put the pads...
That's why I opened this thread to know if I'm the only on this forum who will not put this ****** pads...
In fact I will like to hear the voice of thoses with no pads and no problems...
I would take that bet that I (once again) am NOT going to install the pads, but I do not know how to prove to you I will not be installing them. I am not going to put a web cam up and let you monitor them all day........
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:23:33
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howdy2u2
ilyama
This is a very annoying situation...
I'm asking something.. I'm pretty sure of one thing, a lot of the people who says the pads are not necessary, I'm ready to bet they are gonna put the pads...
That's why I opened this thread to know if I'm the only on this forum who will not put this ****** pads...
In fact I will like to hear the voice of thoses with no pads and no problems...
I would take that bet that I (once again) am NOT going to install the pads, but I do not know how to prove to you I will not be installing them. I am not going to put a web cam up and let you monitor them all day........
Of course, I was not talking about you or everyone who answers me on this thread ;) I was talking to others threads, not mine. ;)
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 08:25:33
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Why not? It's really easy... You shouldn't let yourself be intimidated by it.
I have 2 left hands... I'm really easy with software but I'm really not with expensive hardware... All the people who knows that's easy, I dont say its difficult, I'm saying I not have to do that... not my job... :(
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 09:05:25
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ilyama
Hello !
I'm asking this because I feel a little bit lonely about this...
I dont want to put pads myself, I dont want to touch my computer, I just want to games and forget about all this vulgar language removed
So I use an agressive curve fan (my rig made a lot of noise even without graphic card so... ) and I have 50 degres in normal games, 55 in Battlefield 1 for example.
I'm not benchmarking, no overclocking, just games, games and games again
Am I safe ? There is member here who wont put this pads ?
Ilyama I updated the BIOS I don't care about noise, my case us super quiet. As for the pads, I have never opened a video card before. My 1070 SC cost almost $700 here in Canada. It is the last thing I want to be screwing with. I have no problem installing the pad under the back plate, but I am very hesitant and nervous in removing the heat spreader to install the other pad. The reason is I am never satisfied with how I apply the thermal grease. Every time I do it for the cpu, it drives me crazy. DO I do the line, the pea, star, spread method, am I using too much, too little, ect ect. It drives me nutts! having said that I have built many computers and I have never had a problem so...I think it is more over thinking in my case. Anyways... My advice is to order the pads, when people start receiving them, I am sure there will be hundreds of YouTube videos of people showing how to apply them. After you watch 5 or 10 videos of the process, I guarantee you will have more confidence in your ability to do it yourself. When I install the pads, I plan on doing it in front of my 55inch TV with a youtube video of someone else demonstrating it, doing it step by step with the video. (And the instructions from EVGA) That is my plan anyway.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 09:36:05
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ilyama
Hello !
I'm asking this because I feel a little bit lonely about this...
I dont want to put pads myself, I dont want to touch my computer, I just want to games and forget about all this vulgar language removed
So I use an agressive curve fan (my rig made a lot of noise even without graphic card so... ) and I have 50 degres in normal games, 55 in Battlefield 1 for example.
I'm not benchmarking, no overclocking, just games, games and games again
Am I safe ? There is member here who wont put this pads ?
Ilyama
I updated the BIOS I don't care about noise, my case us super quiet.
As for the pads, I have never opened a video card before. My 1070 SC cost almost $700 here in Canada. It is the last thing I want to be screwing with.
I have no problem installing the pad under the back plate, but I am very hesitant and nervous in removing the heat spreader to install the other pad.
The reason is I am never satisfied with how I apply the thermal grease. Every time I do it for the cpu, it drives me crazy. DO I do the line, the pea, star, spread method, am I using too much, too little, ect ect. It drives me nutts! having said that I have built many computers and I have never had a problem so...I think it is more over thinking in my case. Anyways...
My advice is to order the pads, when people start receiving them, I am sure there will be hundreds of YouTube videos of people showing how to apply them. After you watch 5 or 10 videos of the process, I guarantee you will have more confidence in your ability to do it yourself. When I install the pads, I plan on doing it in front of my 55inch TV with a youtube video of someone else demonstrating it, doing it step by step with the video. (And the instructions from EVGA) That is my plan anyway.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 09:36:43
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No pads here, just a custom agressive fan curve.
Everything works so fine with this config, and GPU at 99% load (Assassin's Creed Syndicate, for example) keeps 60~65º.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 09:54:02
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I will not change anything... But I used Aggressive curve since day 1 ( I always like coolness :P )
I use my cards for already 2 months and I had no problem. On Idle I have 37C and 31C which are much lower temps than my previrous ASUS 780s.
I think that I am also helped by my Case which has a big 20cm fan on the panel and blows air on the video cards.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 11:57:46
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Hi, Please see the below page for more information. http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/ Please keep in mind that the thermal mod is 100% optional. We do however recommend the VBIOS updates which are coming out as quickly as we can make them available, but in general the cards are running within spec without either update. If anyone does want the optional thermal mod and recommended VBIOS loaded from the factory then we can help with warranty to assist.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 11:59:30
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I will update the bios.
Question: Fan curves on new BIOS are different than the Aggressive one on the previous ones?
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 12:22:12
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I predict there will be a huge price drop on all these problematic cards in the next few weeks. More so than just the normal price drops. these cards are going to have to go if people start holding off or backing out. adamchamney@yahoo.com
ilyama
Hello !
I'm asking this because I feel a little bit lonely about this...
I dont want to put pads myself, I dont want to touch my computer, I just want to games and forget about all this vulgar language removed
So I use an agressive curve fan (my rig made a lot of noise even without graphic card so... ) and I have 50 degres in normal games, 55 in Battlefield 1 for example.
I'm not benchmarking, no overclocking, just games, games and games again
Am I safe ? There is member here who wont put this pads ?
Ilyama
I updated the BIOS I don't care about noise, my case us super quiet.
As for the pads, I have never opened a video card before. My 1070 SC cost almost $700 here in Canada. It is the last thing I want to be screwing with.
I have no problem installing the pad under the back plate, but I am very hesitant and nervous in removing the heat spreader to install the other pad.
The reason is I am never satisfied with how I apply the thermal grease. Every time I do it for the cpu, it drives me crazy. DO I do the line, the pea, star, spread method, am I using too much, too little, ect ect. It drives me nutts! having said that I have built many computers and I have never had a problem so...I think it is more over thinking in my case. Anyways...
My advice is to order the pads, when people start receiving them, I am sure there will be hundreds of YouTube videos of people showing how to apply them. After you watch 5 or 10 videos of the process, I guarantee you will have more confidence in your ability to do it yourself. When I install the pads, I plan on doing it in front of my 55inch TV with a youtube video of someone else demonstrating it, doing it step by step with the video. (And the instructions from EVGA) That is my plan anyway.
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 12:45:18
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i am with howdy i got my 1070 ftw dt cranked the fan to 100% an overclocked it to 2113MHz to folding 24/7 under load it is 36 degrees but my price was 400.00 canadian :) folding bucks work
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Re: The only one who won't put the pads ?
2016/11/04 12:48:43
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Aristoc69
I predict there will be a huge price drop on all these problematic cards in the next few weeks. More so than just the normal price drops. these cards are going to have to go if people start holding off or backing out.
Huh? so your saying if I choose not to update the BIOS and not put the thermal pads on since I run an aggressive fan profile and have no temperature issues. (that I can monitor with software or high tech tools/ Best I have is a IR temp gun back of PCB highest temp 47*C) This will have a influence on the EVGA 10xx resale market? Seems that the ticked off people outweigh the folks who are fine (seem to be anyway) with the fixes that EVGA has come up with. I have to say: man I am pretty powerful!!!!
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