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2012/11/29 07:45:18 (permalink)
our plans are to purchase Sr-X, but before we do, can TWO Xeon E2690 processors be overclocked on the SR-X?  The RAM we'll go with is a Gskill F3-2133C9Q-32GZH, 96GB in total.  were not seeing too many compatible ram's for Sr-X in 96GB range.
 
thanks for your input.
 
 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 08:11:34 (permalink)
Good morning/afternoon,
 
Welcome to the EVGA forums, Xeons of this generation have locked multipliers and unable to be overclocked. This also limits the memory controller on the CPU.  With that being said I would recommend getting memory that has the same frequency as the default of the Xeon you are looking at. If you are fairly certain you are getting the E2690 then I would suggest getting a memory frequency of 800/1066/1333/1600 as seen here: http://ark.intel.com/prod...-GTs-Intel-QPI?q=2690. If you have any other questions feel free to shot me a email or re-post here. 

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 09:24:14 (permalink)
yes were definetly going with E2690. Would Crucial RAM work, model# BLS4K8G3D1609ES2LX0  or BLT4K8G3D1608ET3LX0 ?  
 
Lastly which setup would be faster in this case?  
 
Sr-2 with two X5675 overclocked to 4GHz with 48GB of RAM   OR  SR-X two E2690 running stock speed with 96GB of RAM ?
 
thanks in advance.
 
 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 09:49:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
This depends of how much money do you want to spend, the best performance/price ratio is obtained with an SR-2 with 2xE5645 overclocked to 3.8GHz, you can install up to 96Gb of RAM in the SR2 using some ECC memory modules, or 48Gb using normal RAM, you can search in the forum for some brands that work.
 
With this SR2 configuration you will obtain 18 points in Cinebench 11.5, and in the SR-X with 2x2690 you will get up to 25 points, the monetary cost of each extra point beyond the 18 points score is high.
 
If the amount of RAM is a priority, you can also install up to 192Gb of RAM in the SR-X with some modules, also search in the forum.
 
The E5645 are around 500$ each.
 
I hope this helps you.
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2xXeon E5645 at 3800MHz Turbo on, default voltages, 2xCoolerMaster V6GT
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 09:49:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
It really depends on the applications and environment you plan on running your systems. Xeon 2690s have a higher core and thread count that applications may or may not utilized. This is also goes hand and hand with the amount of memory the system will utilized. The Crucial in theory should work, it is suggested to look for 2011 or X79 supported memory when shopping around for the SR-X. 

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 10:59:28 (permalink)
Where can I find 192GB of RAM?  most are 32GB kits for SR-x.  also specs on SR-X say 96GB is that misleading?
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 11:32:41 (permalink)
The SR-X only officially supports up to 96GB as seen here: http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/270-SE-W888.pdf. If people are trying to reach that amount of memory it will be at there discretion. 
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Where can I find 192GB of RAM?  most are 32GB kits for SR-x.  also specs on SR-X say 96GB is that misleading?



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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 16:30:38 (permalink)

EVGA SR2 at 200 Bclk, default voltages
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/29 21:04:41 (permalink)
Since I'm going with two E2690 Xeon and I can't overclock it, are there any special settings I need to put in BIOS(voltage etc) or is it just auto.
 
Also I noticed that the Xeon E2690 CPU have a turbo mode to 3.8GHz, is there a way to force it to stay on that mode ?
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/11/30 07:46:18 (permalink)
You can leave settings at manual if you desire, however we suggest having the memory timings, voltage and desired frequency set.  To my knowledge you are unable to force Turbo to stay on all the time.

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/06 20:14:10 (permalink)
Updated to the latest BIOS version.  I'm now trying to set my RAM and Voltage to the following:   8-8-8-24 / 12800 and voltage 1.35v  96GB  total.  can someone kindly share with me what these are referred to in BIOS for SR-X? 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 07:30:20 (permalink)
You will need to start by entering the bios, then going to the overclock tab. The dimm voltage can be sent within CPU 0 and 1 menu option, I believe the option is called Dimm Voltage control. You will need to back up to the previous menu and go into Memory configuration. You can either select XMP or change memory profile to Manual and set the timings/frequency your self. Hope this information helps, if you have any other questions let me know.

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 08:46:45 (permalink)
okay I'm there now, but for some reason it still shows DIMM in whole numbers like 1530 etc.  how do I get it to 1.35V  per my RAM requirements ?   also for RAM settings 8-8-8-24....what are the  names for these i.e. is it TRC, TRAP etc?
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 09:04:08 (permalink)
To change the Dimm voltage you need to go into CPU 0 and 1 voltage control and put in 1350 as the number. As for the RAM timings it will be the first four to change, per the specs you listed above.
 
TCL: 8
TRCD: 8
TRP: 8
TRAS: 24 

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 09:39:53 (permalink)
Okay so I went into BIOS, Applied 1350 for voltage 8-8-8-24.  I set memory speed to 1600.  All I get is a BLACK screen, no post and no classified splash screen.  I do have 96GB here, I'm not sure if I need more voltage?  Crucial ram says 1.35v on the ram sticker.
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 09:54:05 (permalink)
Can you provide me the model number of the memory, also did you make sure to change the Dimm voltage on both CPU0 and 1. Also try out a XMP profile to see the results you get.
 
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Okay so I went into BIOS, Applied 1350 for voltage 8-8-8-24.  I set memory speed to 1600.  All I get is a BLACK screen, no post and no classified splash screen.  I do have 96GB here, I'm not sure if I need more voltage?  Crucial ram says 1.35v on the ram sticker.



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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 10:59:03 (permalink)
Crucial Memory Model# BLT4K8G3D1608ET3LX0  32GB Kits x 3 qty.
 
I went under Memory performance, it says Automatic, Manual, xmp profile 1 and XMP Profile 2.  I set this to Manual which gains me access into the memory speed settings page.  I then set the memory Speed to 8-8-8-24 and 1600Mhz.  I SAVE and Exit...everything is fine ...I then go back into BIOS to set the voltage.
 
The Voltage I'm setting is called CPU 0 DIMM Voltage Control, I set that to Manual mode and it says "currently" 1.405v , I type in 1350.  I go under CPU 1 DIMM Voltage Control, Set that to manual, I type in 1350.  I then SAVE and EXIT.  After it reboots, I get no Post, no splash screen, and the DIAG code sits on 67.  I have to press the little RED reset button to get things back to stock and for POST to show up.
 
Also I'm using TWO Xeon 2690 CPU's in my setup, I don't know if that makes a difference?
 
thanks for your help.
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 11:21:35 (permalink)
The CPUs shouldn't make a difference, can you just leave the settings for voltage at Auto, set the timings and frequency and then boot up.  Let me know if you are able to boot up into Windows or even start the OS install.

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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 11:34:32 (permalink)
I set the memory to 8-8-8-24, 1600.  I left voltage on Auto which shows 1405 .   I will load OS win 7 x64.   I do know that it loads from cd just fine.  in fact I was planning on using Memtestx86 and run that for 48hrs to make sure my RAM was fine.
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:13:07 (permalink)
I have GSkill 2400 ram, and after multiple attempts the best
setting I could get stable is 10-10-10-28 at 1600.
 
I have 2 2687w's, and 96gb as well...
 
Also btw, if you want decent performance with the SAS controller
it is imperative that you install the latest Intel RSTe 
drivers, ver. 3.5.1.1009.
 
Admins, please post the latest drivers for the SR-X on
your download site! The Atheros AR3011 bluetooth driver is 
actually from 2010 for example!
 
I don't see how hard it would be to have all of the
latest drivers available...
 
 
 
 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:26:50 (permalink)
With just the DVD/CD Drive connected to the Port 3 sata, I inserted my windows 7 X64 DVD, it shows the bootup splash screen and than moments later I get the famous blue screen with the following STOP Codes: 0x0000001E, upon reset I get 0x0000007F, and than the last one as 0x0000007E.
 
Not sure what to make of this. 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:36:21 (permalink)
try 10-10-10-28 at 1600 with auto voltages...
 
It worked for me.
 
even 9-9-9-24 at 1600 never posted
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:40:14 (permalink)
The reason you were only able to achieve a frequency of 1600 is because it is limited to the memory controller on your CPUs. This can be seen here: http://ark.intel.com/prod...-GTs-Intel-QPI?q=2687. The CPUs are locked units by Intel and you can't do any type of over clocking including the memory controller. You should be able to get any timings recommended by the memory manufacture as well as voltage settings. Thank you for the update regarding the latest RSTe I will definitely forward this information on. 
 
jyi12tone

I have GSkill 2400 ram, and after multiple attempts the best
setting I could get stable is 10-10-10-28 at 1600.

I have 2 2687w's, and 96gb as well...

Also btw, if you want decent performance with the SAS controller
it is imperative that you install the latest Intel RSTe 
drivers, ver. 3.5.1.1009.

Admins, please post the latest drivers for the SR-X on
your download site! The Atheros AR3011 bluetooth driver is 
actually from 2010 for example!

I don't see how hard it would be to have all of the
latest drivers available...







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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:45:30 (permalink)
Thank you for your reply JoeyC.
 
I understand that fully after being made aware of that a while
ago.  I was trying to help johnkingx with his dilemma with
setting the speed and freq for his ram.
 
Also could you look into what the latest drivers for 
the Marvell eSATA controllers and Atheros bluetooth are?
 
Thanks again...
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:47:39 (permalink)
Not a problem and yes I will talk a look into any other driver/updates for the SR-X.
 
jyi12tone

Thank you for your reply JoeyC.

I understand that fully after being made aware of that a while
ago.  I was trying to help johnkingx with his dilemma with
setting the speed and freq for his ram.

Also could you look into what the latest drivers for 
the Marvell eSATA controllers and Atheros bluetooth are?

Thanks again...



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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 12:50:32 (permalink)
Is it possible to run memtest before you start the install of Windows? Or possibly bring the system to one kits of memory per CPU bank? Two of those errors are referencing a possible memory issue with a couple of other things. Also revert the memory configuration back to Auto, including timings, voltage and frequency and see what the results are. 
 
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With just the DVD/CD Drive connected to the Port 3 sata, I inserted my windows 7 X64 DVD, it shows the bootup splash screen and than moments later I get the famous blue screen with the following STOP Codes: 0x0000001E, upon reset I get 0x0000007F, and than the last one as 0x0000007E.

Not sure what to make of this. 



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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 13:03:44 (permalink)
okay we got good results with ram settings to 9-9-9-24 @ 1600 with AUTO Voltage.  I'm currently installing Windows 7 X64 across 4 Samsung 840 512GB SSD.  its looking alive so far. 
 
No matter what voltage I set the DIMM to it won't post, very strange.  Auto voltage seems to work fine however.
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 13:13:29 (permalink)
What voltage have you tried setting the memory to besides 1.350? Once Windows is done installing can you try updating your bios to the current we have on the website: http://www.evga.com/support/download/. Also as a side note if you have trouble updating the bios try this faq: http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmmain.aspx?faqid=59335
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okay we got good results with ram settings to 9-9-9-24 @ 1600 with AUTO Voltage.  I'm currently installing Windows 7 X64 across 4 Samsung 840 512GB SSD.  its looking alive so far. 

No matter what voltage I set the DIMM to it won't post, very strange.  Auto voltage seems to work fine however.



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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 13:14:10 (permalink)
johnkingx try 10-10-10-28 at 1600...
 
 
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Re:SR-x with TWO Xeon 2690 possible overclocking? 2012/12/07 13:21:52 (permalink)
One of the first things I did yesterday was install the latest BIOS version 16.  currently I have 9-9-9-24 @1600 with auto voltage. it shows the voltage is at 1.405v   even though the crucial sticker says 1.35v very strange.  I'll see if it succeeds at installing windows 7 x64, if not i will try 10-10-10-28
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