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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/18 11:02:46
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I almost would bet on it , had the same years ago where sata3 was new on desktop mainboard , used the wrong cable with similar effect
If my reseller had played along i would have send it back but because I have it 4 weeks already they only offered me to send it back to EVGA to check if something is Broken ....... i tried to tell them there is nothing Brocken .... just a 2017 Notebook with no sata3 Support
By the way i got in contact with EVGA Support it’s the same here , they don’t try to fix this only standard replays
„We can only guarantee for the installed components“ ..... this made me laugh out laud .... even the installed hdd is Sata 2 only ,
„Beta Bios works with some SSDs, but we can not guarantee for all SSDs“ ...... then why don’t they tell which ssd are working ?
I wish i would know someone with the necessary knowledge and tools who could Test the ssd cable .. i would pay for it
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 08:20:32
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Hi everyone, I found a solution for your problems. So I had the same issue as you all. Tried this with both my samsung SSDs and got only sata 2 speeds. But I had a kingston UV400 ssd lying around so I just tried it just got kicks and it totally worked... got 540 MB/s read speed and 368 write for sequential read/write. Just thought this might help all of you. Of course this was after I flashed the beta bios and set it to gen 3 I have a feeling that it particularly does not work for samsung ssds for some odd reason. Maybe a few others too but I'm sure that if it works for kingston then it might work for others as well... maybe it has something to do with the way the sata controller interacts with specific ssd sroms?
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 08:44:51
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Thanks good to know but why can’t evga do something about this ..... this would be easy for them to test some ssd and tell us the result but no they don’t do anything their customer Support is really bad The thing is this model is a „little“ old , what happens if I buy a new uv 500? Tested and don’t work or have problems with the beta bios , Crucial MX500 1TB Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 09:11:20
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Thanks good to know but why can’t evga do something about this ..... this would be easy for them to test some ssd and tell us the result but no they don’t do anything their customer Support is really bad
The thing is this model is a „little“ old , what happens if I buy a new uv 500?
Tested and don’t work or have problems with the beta bios ,
Crucial MX500 1TB
Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
I have a feeling that they probably knew about it. That's maybe why the Sata gen3 was locked in the first place. Also, I guess UV500 might work? You can always get one and return it if it doesn't. Maybe the hardware/firmware that kingston use might be compatible with this laptop or maybe samsung has some sort of proprietary way of interacting with sata controllers? Anyway, at least we know some SSDs would work as expected and that EVGA hasn't blundered completely. Apart from this small hiccup, I really like this laptop. Wish they had a bios option to turn off the gsync monitor setting completely so that even the iGPU could work. If this was available then we could've made a hackintosh out of this machine as well.
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lGrendell
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 09:28:02
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Anyway it’s good to know that some might work ..... i guess your ssd + Beta bios is stable , when I run my 860evo + beta bios the notebook behaves a bit wonky , sometimes it loses the ssd within windows sometimes is not even showing up within the bios with the beta
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 10:34:49
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368 write is not that good, not much more than we are getting now with SATA II. The MX500, for example, benchmarks at 510.
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/22 12:35:54
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Anyway it’s good to know that some might work ..... i guess your ssd + Beta bios is stable , when I run my 860evo + beta bios the notebook behaves a bit wonky , sometimes it loses the ssd within windows sometimes is not even showing up within the bios with the beta
Well, I just checked and realised that I'm not on the beta. I unlocked the 1.06 firmware by following the dude on page 1 of this thread. So far it hasn't failed to detect the ssd. It did a few times on the beta though on the samsung. Also, if it does even after you try the unlock, maybe try enabling the hotplug setting so you can detect it from windows whenever. starrbuck
368 write is not that good, not much more than we are getting now with SATA II. The MX500, for example, benchmarks at 510.
Just did another test and yeah its 541 read and 375 write. Guess it's a hdd limitation because I had similar numbers with this on my desktop too. But it's good enough for me, i prefer the faster read speeds vs write
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/24 10:02:51
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Yup, it's not bad. Definitely way ahead of a platter drive! :)
Laptop: EVGA SC15 | i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 | G.Skill 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz | Samsung MZVPW256HEGL 256GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Crucial MX500 1TB SSD | Win 10 Home 64-bitDesktop: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | ASUS ROG C7H Wi-Fi X470 | EK-FB ASUS C6H Monoblock | EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC | EK-Vector RTX 2080 Ti RGB Water Block / Backplate | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL14 | Corsair Force MP510 960GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Alienware AW3418DW 120Hz 3440x1440 G-Sync | Fractal Design Define R6 | 7x EK-Vardar EVO 120 RGB | EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM | EK-CoolStream SE 360 + Koolance HX-CU1020V | Corsair HX 1200i | ASUS ROG Claymore + Gladius II | Win 10 Pro 64-bit
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/24 13:44:11
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So for now we can say don’t use the beta bios and it would be better to use the hack on 1.06 (at our own risk )
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/26 02:17:04
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@shriramhr , could you tell us what size your ssd is ? Because if it is the small 120gig the write speed could be max , Kingston says 550/350 Edit hm , Uv400 Controller Marvell 88SS1074 Uv500 Controller Marvell 88SS1074 maybe it’s a controller thing , just found this Site with more ssd who used this Controller , damn no links in this forum i forgot Anyway a mx300 should have the same controller maybe i try this one
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/08/29 08:48:39
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hi , this time no rant from me but hopefully with good news , knock on wood first of all iam on windows 10 that came with the notebook , only thing i changed i added a win10pro key ..... no new install of the system my starting point was the 1.06 bios with this i installed a crucial mx300 1tb (1050mb) this one hath the same controller like the kingstone uv400 from above who had good results after booting into windows same as ever only sata2 support but this was to expected , next thing i downloaded the beta bios did a install of it booting into the bios and change the ssd seting from sata2 to sata3 after this back to windows , start crystal disk info and lucky i had sata600/sata600 .......... but sadly everytime i tryed crystal disk mark and co the speed was realy bad and i noted it changed back to sata300 .... rebooting and the same first few minutes sata600 and than it changed again to sata300 ...... did a few reboots and every time the same first 600 and minutes later 300 next thing i did i deinstalled intel rapid storage technology what was pre installed on windows and bam after rebooting the system it stayed at sata600 the whole time but sadly speeds where still bad  did a reboot again with this happen  after this i went into settings (devices manager) did a uninstall of this ssd , after this a search for new hardware , ssd is back , did a few reboots after this and somehow it changed to this  for comparison i added the nmve in this picture   all in all it works now but iam not sure if this happens because i deinstalled the intel rapid thing or the reinstall of the ssd within the device manager or just because windows itself needet some time to self adjust who knows
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/09/12 10:31:30
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/09/15 12:39:37
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But the thing is the thread owner with the same ssd as you had already tried this and still had problems and I had problems with the Samsung evo 860 .... right now iam not sure that I had uninstalled intel rapid with the beta bios and Samsung combo
Anyway in run my crucial mx300 , beta bios and no intel rapid combi for a few weeks now and have no problems , no disappearing of the ssd and good speed
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/09/16 22:16:53
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@shriramhr , could you tell us what size your ssd is ? Because if it is the small 120gig the write speed could be max , Kingston says 550/350
Edit hm ,
Uv400 Controller Marvell 88SS1074
Uv500 Controller Marvell 88SS1074
maybe it’s a controller thing , just found this Site with more ssd who used this Controller , damn no links in this forum i forgot
Anyway a mx300 should have the same controller maybe i try this one
Hey, sorry just read this. Yes, it’s a 120gig hdd. So did the mx300 work?
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/09/17 10:41:59
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Hi , yes it did work , had some minor problems mentioned a few posts above .... but it runs fine no problem so far
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2018/12/06 13:27:09
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Hi , yes it did work , had some minor problems mentioned a few posts above .... but it runs fine no problem so far
Just wondering if it's still working okay for you? I've got no space on the main, so I'd like to replace the 1TB with an SSD.
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Re: SC15: Upgraded HDD to SSD, now only in SATA 2 mode
2019/07/04 16:36:18
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Hello, just found this thread because i've got the same problem when i replaced the 1TB HDD with a MX500 1TB on my SC15 today. did EVGA released some driver or sth like that or is there a workaround which really helped? EVGATech_LeeM
Hi everyone,
I'll have our team look into this once we get back from the Memorial Day weekend.
Thanks for reporting this. I'd advise against editing the BIOS before we've looked at it, but I'll let you all know when I have an update.
any update for this problem or its the beta bios really the final solution which isnt working anyway as we know? so sad to get only sata2 on a high quality laptop. :/
post edited by marcel385 - 2019/07/10 02:03:22
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