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Hello guys, my 980ti hybrid is having some issues. The temperature was spiking and just being unacceptably high which I confirmed this morning to be with out a doubt the pump. When cold booting occasionally the pump will not turn on. This morning I booted the machine after a whole night being off, the pump wasn't on, 80c at idle, shut down, boot up, didnt start again, shut down, booted up, waited like 10 minutes and I heard a noise that sounded like a rock being dropped into a puddle and the temperature went from 85c to 40c in 1 second and then the next second dropped to 27c which is roughly ambient. So I have two options, RMA and replace the cooler myself. I've already replaced the TIM with high quality paste and assured that the pump was seated properly. The rad is mounted above the card with the tubes going into the "bottom" of the rad so air gets caught in the top. Have any of you RMA'd a hybrid? I am totally unwillingly to if I'm going to receive a card with out an AIO cooler. I want to know if they can charge me for a cooler and do a cross-ship, refunding me when they get my broken one(this is a common warranty practice). I googled around and this problem is so common that I'm considering just buying another AIO and mount for it(nzxt g10) but if I can cross ship, I'll do that, wait for the new one to brake, and then buy a replacement.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/03 13:35:54
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EVGA does do cross ship RMAs, not sure if they would do just the cooler or would want to ship a whole new card. Contact support and ask.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/03 14:01:52
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We would need to RMA the entire card if it was originally purchased as a GTX 980 Ti Hybrid. I do not see this card registered to your account so I cannot see if this was a separate kit purchased or not.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/03 15:07:45
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I don't see why you cant offer replacement pumps ?? just left us in the cold on that . don't need the shroud just a replacement part when things as this pops up . how hard is that to do [great evga after the sale support ?? ] look at how many posted just here in need and you team all ready told me using the 10 series pump / hybrid kit pump on a 900 card evga will not guarantee or stand behind that ,so ??
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/03 16:26:41
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In the US region this is how we handle the warranty for the Hybrid cards. This is the same for an air cooled card in which the fans have failed. We do require that you RMA the entire card. I do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause anyone.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/04 07:04:44
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big deal so its not in warrantee so your saying we just go buy another new card instead of just ordering the replacement part ?? maybe we don't want to fool with warrantee and just need the pump order it get it and slap it on ??? that's much easier then then all that RMA hoop jumping and postage cost mailing things around for weeks waiting . just be able to get the pump and fix the card .. that cut down time in 1/2 . and not having to trash a good card over the cooler cause YOU left folks in the cold on that , right ?? this is a specialty item not something like a air cooler you can just scab any old gpu fan on it and go . the pump unit for these cards needed to say readily available instead of being dropped like a hot potato as it was , and funny right at the time of the 10 series release . hmmmmmmm....???? now I see that would hurt 10 series hybrid sales , your card fa8ls your stand is just buy oure newer 10 series hybrid . I got it now also for the few guys that had to rma there hybrids did not seem too satisfied or had to rma 2 or 3 times to do so ???? so that trust kinda got iffy like this guy for a example . I don't look to suffer with out a card as that what a hassle . https://forums.evga.com/GTX-980ti-Hybrid-70c-m2522976-p2.aspx
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/04 11:00:06
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Of course we do understand your frustration and I apologize for that. This is why we have the Cross Ship and Advanced RMA options, to avoid downtime. I highly recommend the Advanced RMA for any products so your frustration can be mitigated. Unfortunately electronics will inevitably experience hardware issues, but that is why we have an excellent warranty!
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/04 15:55:29
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I see this is over your head or the run around ??? o k so you decline the warrantee so you will sell me the pump for me to install ????? what are you not understanding here on this out side of you let folks down needing a pump for there 900 card ??? pump goes bad you sell me a pump as it should be and we all move on happy '', but that is why we have an excellent warranty!'' that may mean nothing to some one if declined or for what ever reason I sure hope the 10 series guys look all these 900 posts over they may decide to go msi / corsair seahawk . there h55 used is at newegg all day everyday for like 60 bucks . so where is yours ??? no where that where . left us in the cold dude that's all there is to it -you dropped the ball on us as they say though hind sight is 20/20 and you know better next time . don't get me wrong I'm happy with my card matter of fact I think I got a bit better then I expected , but I do see the down the road issue with evga and this pump replacement / satisfactory rma if not declined for any reason .
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/04 16:38:36
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What the hell are you on about Dr. Death? You do realize Asetek manufactures ALL of these AIO coolers, you want a replacement pump for whatever reason go buy one, there are many that will fit just fine.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/04 17:39:43
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Dr.Death I see this is over your head or the run around ??? o k so you decline the warrantee so you will sell me the pump for me to install ????? what are you not understanding here on this out side of you let folks down needing a pump for there 900 card ??? pump goes bad you sell me a pump as it should be and we all move on happy '', but that is why we have an excellent warranty!'' that may mean nothing to some one if declined or for what ever reason I sure hope the 10 series guys look all these 900 posts over they may decide to go msi / corsair seahawk . there h55 used is at newegg all day everyday for like 60 bucks . so where is yours ??? no where that where . left us in the cold dude that's all there is to it -you dropped the ball on us as they say though hind sight is 20/20 and you know better next time . don't get me wrong I'm happy with my card matter of fact I think I got a bit better then I expected , but I do see the down the road issue with evga and this pump replacement / satisfactory rma if not declined for any reason .
The GTX 980 Ti's were released within the last three years so most of them will still have warranty intact. If there is a hardware issue with the unit we gladly replace it. It's pretty hassle-free. Although you can find H55's easily, these are CPU coolers. If you are sincerely asking about our CPU coolers we do provide them separately HERE, but they cannot be used with your GPU. I am very sorry you feel we have dropped the ball. It is certainly not our intention. If you ever have any issues with your EVGA products you can feel free to PM me and I would be glad to assist you one-on-one. We strive to provide the best service we possibly can.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 06:35:19
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''What the hell are you on about Dr. Death? You do realize Asetek manufactures ALL of these AIO coolers, you want a replacement pump for whatever reason go buy one, there are many that will fit just fine.'' you can see that guy aint got a clue . go find the one evga uses for there cards then ,, for what I know and I could be wrong these punps and the coldplate use is made just for evga use on there hybrid cards not a converted cpu cooler like the common H55 used on a MSi / corsair seahawk so put your money where your mouth is please I'll that the exact replacement form them as well link me to the part at Asetek??? to the evga guy I see your just going to beat around the bush as I see as the norm ... '' am very sorry you feel we have dropped the ball. It is certainly not our intention.'' you know full well it was or you would still sell the part ??? come on. thing is at least being a cpu cooler used I can just go buy a replacement for about any retailer evga your stuck holding there bag . not hard to see and understand that in any way anyway you may get guys like somthingcool to go for it but .... have a nice day I made my point on this .
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 07:00:22
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Good news is that most of the Evga Hybrid kits for the GTX 900 and GTX 1000 series use the same Asetek pump and radiator (only difference is the shrouds and mounting brackets included in the kits). This means that one could technically buy (for example) a GTX 1080 Hybrid kit, take only the radiator and pump out of the box, and use it to replace the faulty pump and radiator on a GTX 980ti Hybrid.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 11:55:08
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lets see if the evga rep guy that's posting here will confirm that cause there support said to me in a e-mail on that was ''NO'' they will not back that up and you do it at your own risk they only will support it to whats on there compatibility list of cards . but then what choice does evga offer but to try and use it if all else fails ?? so evga tech josephL , will you officially confirm that ??? then look at the pump cols plates from a 980 ti hybrid and then a 1080 hybrids . see don't look the same the 10 series seems to be raised up some and got a slop to it ?? Above: EVGA Hybrid cooler uses a coldplate extrusion to improve GPU contact and performancehttp://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2128-msi-sea-hawk-gtx-980-ti-review-and-benchmark?showall=1 then the 1080 http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2582-evga-gtx-1080-ftw-hybrid-review-vs-sea-hawk-x?showall=1 so seems not to be the same and may not work at all [????] I don't miss much , and why a wile back I contacted there support on this to start with
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 12:47:50
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Dr.Death lets see if the evga rep guy that's posting here will confirm that cause there support said to me in a e-mail on that was ''NO'' they will not back that up and you do it at your own risk they only will support it to whats on there compatibility list of cards . but then what choice does evga offer but to try and use it if all else fails ?? so evga tech josephL , will you officially confirm that ???
We do not officially recommend using a cooler that is not on the compatibility list but if you need to RMA the card you will just need to return it to its stock condition before sending it in. Keep in mind that many of our customers use aftermarket coolers that are not on the official EVGA compatibility list and this does not void their warranty as long as they replace the stock cooler when needing to RMA. Make sure you do not make any physical modifications to the card (or cooler if it is an EVGA cooler) or damage it during installation as this would not be covered under warranty.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 12:54:35
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The tubes on the GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid are angled a little to the side (which would interfere with the 980 ti shroud). However, in the regular GTX 1080/1070 Hybrid kit (400-HY-5188-B1), the pump is made the same way the way as the 980/980ti/Titan X Hybrid pumps were:
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 17:16:24
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just my two cents here but it may be easier all around if evga moved the pump to the rad rather than the block. that would make replacing the pump much much easier if its done right.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/05 22:27:16
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EVGA does NOT make the all in one solution. As stated, Asetec makes them. This is the standard for ALL AIO solutions, asetec, corsair, etc. Cpu, gpu, apu, it doesnt matter. They are mass produced the same way. Ask the large corperations to chane how they mass produce these, not EVGA.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 10:29:12
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all crap aside this is is a strong selling point I find with evga ''. Keep in mind that many of our customers use aftermarket coolers that are not on the official EVGA compatibility list and this does not void their warranty as long as they replace the stock cooler when needing to RMA'' but still they should offer the direct replacement in accessories for the 900 series don't need the shroud as like in the kit some guys don't care about RMA hoop jumping and may just prefer to grab the speced pump and slap it on themselves you say cross ship but you see all that extra cost to me then a lean on my c-card until approved and reimbursed or that chance it may not be or a issue there ?? just be able to buy the pump ship it in 3-5 days slap it on and be done . not hope for a rma approvel the day to ship to evga the there time looking it over the the days to ship it back ?? the main funny thing is how as soon as the 10 series released the 900 stuff disappeared [fast] .. like we cant have that hurting the 10 series sales now can we . ''EVGA does NOT make the all in one solution. As stated, Asetec makes them.'' so evga cant order the 900 ones to keep in stock to sell still today ??? that one guy keep stating this ''However, in the regular GTX 1080/1070 Hybrid kit (400-HY-5188-B1), the pump is made the same way the way as the 980/980ti/Titan X Hybrid pumps were:''' still the unit the evga guy posted is still not the same from the disassembled unit from the review and not as the 900 serise cold plate either and that's why I feel they got to say this ''We do not officially recommend using a cooler that is not on the compatibility list '' cause its not the same ???? then the next picture they use is another different cold plate looks as the evga guys ?? you know it \s not the corsair/ msi unit cause the cold plate if flat ??? or is it the difference in the 1080 or the ftw pumps ?? seeing theres 2 kits for that ?? anyway bottom line is if evga just sold the correct pump for a 900 series still to start with none of this would be discussed everyones happy not here arguing it all out . your pump fails and you don't want to loose your card just order a new pump and keep on trucking evga wants to push that send it in and then you aint got a clue on what kind of card you get back maybe a poor clocker then the one you sent in or runs hotter or what ever then your right back in the rma fiasco with them like that one guy 3 times -
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 11:11:04
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There are two different Evga 1080 Hybrids, one that is called 1080 FTW Hybrid (the one in your picture) which will not fit as the tubes comes out of the pump sideways. The plate the guy is holding to the left in your picture is not needed for the 900-series, as that piece is specific to the 1000-series. Then there is the Regular 1080/1070 Hybrid kit (400-HY-5188-B1) which as you can see in the picture i posted, uses the same Pump/Radiator as the 900-series hybrid kits (just with a different shroud). If you study the product pictures on Newegg for the 980ti Hybrid and 1080/1070 Hybrid kits, you will see that they do indeed have the same exact pump and radiator. 1080/1070 Hybrid (400-HY-5188-B1): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998133980ti Hybrid (00-HY-0996-B1): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998105
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 12:23:13
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this looked interesting ? for the corsair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlMACZQgGGI ''If you study the product pictures on Newegg for the 980ti Hybrid and 1080/1070 Hybrid kits, you will see that they do indeed have the same exact pump and radiator'' thing is you don't know if there just using old stock photos form when ever ?? you know I been thinking about e-mailing that nexus review guy on them pictures he used in that review ? somthings up like the corsair now changing the cold plate for the 10 series ??? I really like these cards but don't think i'll do it twice . this issue alone kinda makes a guy think it all over for long term . at least with a air card the fans die I can just scab any old gpu fan in and kep on going with these hybrids you maybe looking at another 500$ replacement over a 50$ pump .. like sais if the correct pumps were sold today as they should be all this would be a mute subject ''We'd advise against doing this – there's inherent risk, it's not particularly trivial, and the GTX 980 Ti Hybrid's bracket is not compatible with the GTX 1080's base plate.'' http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2441-diy-gtx-1080-hybrid-thermals-100-percent-lower-higher-oc-room so now is that the bracket to the pump to the pcb ??? all it can take is any slight change to throw things off and shows that's not a direct replacement ?? [ be nice if another site had a disassembly review to look at ]
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 14:54:11
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Evga's own webpage for the 1080/1070 Hybrid kit has pretty much the same pictures as Newegg: http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5188-B1The pump/radiator (and cold-plate + stand-offs) still looks exactly the same as in the 980ti Hybrid kit. The guy in that video did take the radiator and pump from a Evga 980ti Hybrid kit (400-HY-0996-B1), and installed it on a GTX 1080 Founders Edition, and it fit just fine. This most likely means that the other way around, the radiator/pump from a GTX 1080 Hybrid kit (400-HY-5188-B1) will also fit a GTX 980ti. As for the Corsair Hydro GFX unit, early versions was modified a tiny bit by Corsair (cold-plate were flat, and stand-offs were shaved down a little). New units should now have the same cold-plate and stand-offs as the Evga Hybrid kits.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 16:44:32
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I understand your worry Dr. DEATH, about sending in a good card and getting back a cruddy card, just for a pump/radiator. But, THEY DONT MAKE THE SEPERATE KITS ANYMORE. They only have the cards that already have the kits installed on them already. Deal with it. Both the cards and the kits were limited time only, just like the backplates. They were advertised as such. This means they ordered a limited number of the pump/radiator combo from Asetec, specifically for certain EVGA cards, and Asetek only made them that 1 time. Even if they had them still, they would be as old as yours is now, and would probably go out soon anyway, as they are only good for 3 years. So, either get the 1000 series one and try to make it work, rma the whole card, or get an aftermarket kit like corsair or nzxt. Everyone has been polite in trying to give you solutions, and you just repeat the same stuff angrily every post. I would suggest either a moderator or evga empleyee close this thread, as there is no more to say, and the same stuff will be said over and over and over again. :(
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 17:52:18
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'' Both the cards and the kits were limited time only '' as they say in Missouri ''show me '' that was never stated in any thing on the card or any of the product pages like here ?? or any ??? wheres limited time only ? https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6288-KR limited time ?? https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5188-B1 nice try . but more of the smokescreening here or some way out claims LOL every hybrid thread is a doozy from some one .. 'Everyone has been polite in trying to give you solutions,'' I've yet to see one just a lot of brush offs , but you can sure tell when the truth hurts like here where evga got caught with there foot in mouth and a guy had to say '' Hmm, which seems to be contradictory to advice given out on this very forum no more than 6 days ago? '' https://forums.evga.com/New-980-ti-hybrid-radiator-fan-constantly-on-full-speed-m2453739.aspx by the way did I say anyone was being hateful ??? \ ''Even if they had them still, they would be as old as yours is now, and would probably go out soon anyway, as they are only good for 3 years.'' brand new never used sealed in the box ???? wow !!! see what I mean about all the fluff and run a rounds you get . I mean really . it is to laugh ''I would suggest either a moderator or evga empleyee close this thread, as there is no more to say, and the same stuff will be said over and over and over again''' true better ''remove this thread '' so the 10 series hybrid buyers don't see it and change there minds on what they maybe getting in to . [maybe better off long term doing so ] i'll drop it here my point been well made . enjoy
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/06 22:21:17
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I am not trying to argue with you. And I am on your side. I am on my 2nd titan x maxwell, and it started going out 3 weeks after I got the rma, and I need to rma this rma, as its getting to the point that I have to have Kboost on all the time when just web browsing or playing games. And what am I going to do when it finally gets so bad like the 1st card did? Rma again and lose money I dont have on shipping. I really think EVGA dropped the ball on the 900 serries, as there are so many people having so many problems. BUT, there is only a few things you, I, and others can do, and tney have all been said already. So, posting the same thing over and over is useless. :(
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/07 06:49:42
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you guys are all good but I just find a lot said on this thing amusing and off the wall or brushoff statements that don't add up in any way and so easy to discredit . I know I said I was done here , but sorry what I thought on overnight was DONT BUY A FACTORY BUILT HYBRID .. buy the best AIR card you can that's on the hybrid kit compatible list and buy and install the hybrid cooler kit if like the OP and the pump or what ever fails of then hybrid cooler just go back on air and send the pump in on its own warrantee . that's cuts your losses big you keep your solid card , your down time is only the time it takes to swap the coolers , your using your computer as normal back on air not waiting for a GPU rma , you get new RMA pump back and put it back on or if your were to be screwed over by evga [just a what if ] your only out a 100$ pump not a 600$ card in full and then having to buy another $$$$ replacement card or hope a different 3ed party cooler work out and as well ... that's the lesson learned here for me like the OP if he bought a air card ands a kit just put the air cooler back on and keep on trucking his card .. thing is if I knew back then what I know and see now I would of never got a factory built hybrid .. its a nice concept but just slightly mishandled service wise . anyway I wish the OP good luck and hope his RMA goes satisfactory and hassle free ...... good luck
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/07 14:50:22
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Yeah, that is a good idea Dr. Death. One I tried to do, but all the kits were already sold out (they sell out in like 3 hours, so stupid, EVGA should order more than that, lol). So when my 1st titan x went out, I bought the Corsair kit with a corsair pump/radiator, thinking that the water cooling would make the card last longer than 6 months (I had the card 1 year, but it wasnt plugged in or used for 6 months because of surgeries). Well, the water cooled rma'ed titan lasted a whole 3 weeks, and has slowly started dying even more from then on. Now, not only am I out the original titan x, which worked great for (6 months) a year, I am now out the shipping cost to rma, and out the corsair kit, and out the corsair pump/radiator AIO. And, now I am going to be out more shipping money to send this rma in (which, I am broke, as in havent worked in 2 years, and have no income, so I cant even send this card in which I havent because I cant). And, even if I got an rma card, I can no longer put the water cooling on it, because I cant afford new memory pads for the corsair kit. Sigh. I guess with an evga kit it would all be fines, but the memory pads would still get old no matter what, and you would still need new ones before attaching the old air cooled cooler.
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Re: Regarding 980ti hybrid pump not starting
2017/04/07 15:27:02
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well you know what they say ''you know better next time '' heck even if I had to order new pads it still be far better the risking looseing a whole card over a pump or down time most of us who fooled with this stuff like me I got pad material if I need to do that kind of thing from a sink project on a old motherboard thing is even if not I still would have that option of slapping the air cooler back on even if I did not want to go back to the hybrid . with the factory made hybrid your kinda stuck at evga mercy for life of the card like I say if evga deck=lines the rma or time is up your done for as fart as a direct replacement pump unit and no air cooler to fall back on to keep the card going that way with out spending $$$$ to do so lessons learned from school of hard knocks
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