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I've had a couple hrs to sit with my 1080. I have it +85 +300 with 120% power stock voltages temps dont pass 67c. Its stable with fire strikes stress test however soon as I tick +90 on the clock it fails and fails hard. Does any one have some experience increasing the voltage on a 1080 like how much is acceptable and safe etc. Im not looking for alot but a even +100 would make my day.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:54 PM
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RMA it that is totally no bueno I have stock voltage +170 GPU +500 Memory 70 C
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:37 PM
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orlando2542 RMA it that is totally no bueno I have stock voltage +170 GPU +500 Memory 70 C
Overclocking potential over what is advertised as the clock speed is not a reason to submit for warranty replacement. tubbing I've had a couple hrs to sit with my 1080. I have it +85 +300 with 120% power stock voltages temps dont pass 67c. Its stable with fire strikes stress test however soon as I tick +90 on the clock it fails and fails hard. Does any one have some experience increasing the voltage on a 1080 like how much is acceptable and safe etc. Im not looking for alot but a even +100 would make my day.
Under load with your stable over clock what are the boost clocks you are reaching?
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:42 PM
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Im curious as well. Ive been trying to find time to test more but being that the stock clocks have handled everything on my monitor Ive been enjoying my games more than messing with the clocks. I really wish they would get the OC scanner working better, great concept.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Friday, June 17, 2016 2:44 PM
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During benching it runs at 2025 solid during firestrike stress test. But soon as I move the slider to anything plus 85 it fails regardless how much voltage I throw at it.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 3:54 AM
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Yup, that happens. Not every card is capable of a great OC. My EVGA 1070 FE is stable at +250 +500 and runs around 2150 core in games. I didn't expect that at all, my R9 390 was only stable at +20 over standard core.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:30 AM
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great how companies advertise with "made for overclocking" knowing that it's just a big lie. it's always the same exactly like Intel's XMP, "it's there, buy it but no warranty it will work for you"...
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:37 AM
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sahafiec it's always great how companies advertise with "made for overclocking" knowing that it's just a big lie. it's always the same exactly like Intel's XMP, "it's there, buy it but no warranty it will work for you"...
Bull. The cards are advertised at a certain spec clock speed and often as "overclocked" but I almost never see ads saying that a card is great for pushing beyond it's listed spec. I haven't seen any EVGA 1080 ads for OP's card saying that. Because it would be stupid. You *can* overclock most hardware, but no one is guaranteeing you a certain result. I've had several cards over the years that would barely overclock. It's bad luck, but it isn't a problem with the actual card. If the card meets specs then it's doing it's job. This time around my 1070 is stable at a wonderful overclock, this time OP's 1080 isn't able to be pushed very far beyond spec. That's just luck and card lottery. Expecting a certain OC or to be able to RMA a product because it doesn't go far enough beyond it's actual spec performance to make you happy is plain stupid and over entitled.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:57 AM
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So far settled at +100 to core and +350 on memory with stock voltage. Might could get a little more but it already boost to nearly 2.1 and with over +150 on the core I was getting some artifacts.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:36 AM
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Even on stock settings it seems like my 1080 SC runs quite hot..... i have to move to fan profile to 70% manualy just to keep it in the low to mid 70s.... is this normal? Its quite noisy at 70%....
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 3:46 PM
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Lokius81 Even on stock settings it seems like my 1080 SC runs quite hot..... i have to move to fan profile to 70% manualy just to keep it in the low to mid 70s.... is this normal? Its quite noisy at 70%....
Was the card reaching thermal throttling temps before you adjusted the fan? If so than yes, that's bad. If not than it's fine. A card seeming kind of warm by you while running at 70% fan is clearly not a problem with the card. Also... 70% fan? They made 100% fan where it is to keep the GPU cool enough to operate normally. If you can get away with only 70% then congratulations!
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:20 PM
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Is your overclocking performance and end in itself? Or are you actually not able to play your games and at high enough quality and framerate, so you're pushing for more? If this just a matter of your published e-peen numbers not being as high as someone else, I'd urge you to develop a different perspective. The 1080 SC is already a factory overclocked version of the 1080 ACX. It ships already clocked over 100 MHz behind what the base model ships at. That's what the SC means, btw, it's "superclocked" compared to the base model. That you're not able to go enough higher even than that to make your e-peen compare favorably with someone else's is not a good justification for subjecting EVGA to expense and loss of profit.
If I were you I'd just use the card, play some games, have fun, and enjoy it. Don't get so wrapped around the axle about the numbers. The difference in actual framerates in any game between the OC the OP is getting and what the next guy with a 1/4" longer e-peen is what, 2 or 3 frames per second at most? You'll never even notice that under real life gaming conditions.
I'm holding out for a 1080 SC, and I'll probably just run it stock, just as I run my cpu and my current 960 SSC at stock speeds. I might tweak the speeds slightly if I'm not satisfied with the framerates and think I might get enough boost to be worth it, but otherwise I'll probably just run it stock. I'm confident in my e-manhood.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:26 PM
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I'm with sethleigh. I do not understand the fascination with firestrike scores or highest overclock. The thing was made to play games. And like he said: the difference between stock FPS and overclocked FPS is 1-2%
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:46 PM
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sethleigh Is your overclocking performance and end in itself? Or are you actually not able to play your games and at high enough quality and framerate, so you're pushing for more? If this just a matter of your published e-peen numbers not being as high as someone else, I'd urge you to develop a different perspective. The 1080 SC is already a factory overclocked version of the 1080 ACX. It ships already clocked over 100 MHz behind what the base model ships at. That's what the SC means, btw, it's "superclocked" compared to the base model. That you're not able to go enough higher even than that to make your e-peen compare favorably with someone else's is not a good justification for subjecting EVGA to expense and loss of profit.
If I were you I'd just use the card, play some games, have fun, and enjoy it. Don't get so wrapped around the axle about the numbers. The difference in actual framerates in any game between the OC the OP is getting and what the next guy with a 1/4" longer e-peen is what, 2 or 3 frames per second at most? You'll never even notice that under real life gaming conditions.
I'm holding out for a 1080 SC, and I'll probably just run it stock, just as I run my cpu and my current 960 SSC at stock speeds. I might tweak the speeds slightly if I'm not satisfied with the framerates and think I might get enough boost to be worth it, but otherwise I'll probably just run it stock. I'm confident in my e-manhood.
It's funny how in trying to be reasonable you're generally insulting instead. You don't know the setup in question, so defaulting to "e-peen" comments is childish and helps no one. My setup is either to 3440x1440 or 4k, in either case a good overclock on the 1070 is generally the difference between choppy and smooth framerates. Gameplay is noticeably much better with the OC, I'm finally stable above 60 on my primary monitor.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:10 PM
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zshadez It's funny how in trying to be reasonable you're generally insulting instead. You don't know the setup in question, so defaulting to "e-peen" comments is childish and helps no one. My setup is either to 3440x1440 or 4k, in either case a good overclock on the 1070 is generally the difference between choppy and smooth framerates. Gameplay is noticeably much better with the OC, I'm finally stable above 60 on my primary monitor. The OP reported a +85 MHz overclock. His e-peen better reported +170, and suggested that the OP RMA his card. Think about that. EVGA sells a card as factory overclocked by over 100 MHz as compared to the base model. And the card clearly achieves the advertised speed stably. In fact, he achieves that and an additional 85 MHz. That's pretty good value for money, and EVGA's card performs better than advertized. So, what's the justification for an RMA? You do realize that with an RMA EVGA is going to lose money, right? But consider the difference between an 85MHz overclock and a 170 MHz overclock. Starting at 1708 base clock for the out-of-box SC, add 85 for the OP and 170 for the guy who thinks the OP is entitled to make EVGA lose money on a card that works better than advertized. That's 1793 MHz as opposed to 1878 MHz. Dividing those we see about a 4 1/2% difference. If the guy with the longer e-peen is getting 60 fps on his 4k monitor the OP is getting 57 or 58. In practice you're never going to see that 2 fps difference. And that's assuming that the boost clocks are even all that different. I don't recall seeing them compare actual achieved boost clocks under load. We're just assuming that the guy with the higher offset to the base clock is actually getting a 4 1/2% advantage, but I haven't seen the proof that he really is. Trust me about 4K, I feel it too. I'm running a 4K monitor with a Geforce 960 SSC right now, and feeling the pain. After playing The Division for a week at 20-30 fps I've bit the bullet and down-rezzed to 1080p just so I can peg it at 60 fps for playability. I'm trying to buy a 1080 SC as well, and have been glued to the websites for several days now trying to catch one in stock. I appreciate the advantages of buying a faster card. That's why I'm trying to buy one, like so many others. My whole point is that with so many of these guys it seems as if the most important thing to them when they first pull it out of the box is just how much further than stock they can push their overclock, as if the overclock itself were the end, and not just a means to an end. If the true end is more playable quality and framerates in games, then a little common sense kicks in. If my overclock ends up being 50 MHz lower than the next guy's, then yeah, I suppose he wins the e-peen contest, but all other things being equal, he might see 1 or at most 2 fps advantage over me in any games we might play. That's just not a big deal, and certainly not worth losing sleep over. With these things the law of diminishing returns applies. What are you willing to do for that last 20 or 30 MHz of overclock? And what if you achieve that last 20 or 30 MHz of overclock? What real world performance actually using the card have you gained?
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:18 PM
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You might be missing the point where I told them that a cartoon of pushing far enough past manufacturer spec to make you happy is not a reason to RMA. I completely agree with that, and think that was a stupid thing to consider or complain about, every chip overclocks differently, it's fine to hope for a certain result but of course anything you get beyond factory spec is based on luck.
That said, jumping to e-peen insults provides no real benefit to anyone. Your message was good, but the phrasing was a bit childish.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:30 PM
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Point taken, and I appreciate your comments. Probably not the best tack to take in conversations like this, and I'll reevaluate my approach for the future. I think the whole e-peen thing helps people see how ridiculous this whole thing is though.
I've overclocked off and on for like 25 or 30 years in machines I bought or built. I get it. I've always used overclocking as a way to eek out some better performance if the benefit were tangible enough. It seems nowadays though overclocking is like a test of virtual manhood, where the contest is to see who overclocks the best/has the luckiest draw in the silicon lottery. The overclock itself has become the end, rather than the means to an end, which is more pleasurable use of the machine. I am not a fan of this newer focus on the overclock itself.
It's why I'm still running a 5 year old CPU in my machine, btw. Until 9 or 10 months ago I was running a Core i7 950 quad-core at 3 GHz. I found a Xeon 5680 6-core 3.3 GHz for cheap (maybe $125) and dropped it in for a nice upgrade. Is it as fast as today's cpus? No, certainly not. But I'd never notice, because in Windows itself, and in almost any game I play, the cpu isn't that big a deal - it's all about the graphics card. It's why I'm looking to upgrade to a 1080 SC card to run my 4K monitor better, but I still am perfectly satisfied with my 6-core Xeon from 2011. And it's not even overclocked at all. I'm currently doing a little scouting to possibly move toward rebuilding my machine with an X99 board and an Intel 6850 at some point, but not because I feel I really need the extra oomph, but just because at some point the caps on my X58 board will go bad and my machine will become unstable, and I'd like to make a move up to a new generation before I get to that point so I don't have an unexpected failure and be out of my machine for a while.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:45 PM
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Funny enough the last 5 years I've been spending much more time tinkering with the mechanics and settings than I actually have gaming. In the last month I've probably spend 30 hours tweaking frequencies, voltages, and .inis and maybe two hours tops actually playing something. Computers have become for me what cars are to a lot of guys. I enjoy the tinkering as much as any game. My last box lived over a decade with no changes, but this current machine started something like 5 years ago as low level fx build for $500. It's gradually changed one piece at a time until it's now a 4690k @ 4.7 and now with a 1070 +250/500. During all that time I've probably only really played 5 games, and most for 30 hours or less. It's not like I'm going to be gunning my hand-tweaked roadster 0-60 or running it up past 200mph anywhere near often or at all, it's just the enjoyment of the time put in to it. I doubt I'm the only one who makes the comparison between computers and cars. My dad used to spend days in the garage tweaking things, I do the same with my computer. Work and wife kill my focus for gaming a lot of the time, but tinkering only takes a minute until it's lasted all day. :D
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:58 PM
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No doubt, well that's not my thing with computers, but I totally get it. I've built two violins and an electric guitar (and tube amp) from scratch, and I don't actually play either violin or guitar! I like doing things too, so I totally get that. With computers I'm an unrepentant gamer though. I tinker with my machines too sometimes, but I really do play games, and way too much of it. I actually spent a couple of evenings a few months back overclocking my new Intel Xeon 5680 cpu to see what I could do it with it. After all that I set it back to stock settings for actual use, because I didn't think that the performance gains of aggressive overclocking were going to get me anything that I'd actually notice in real usage situations, and mild overclocks even less so. So why stress the equipment?
The sad thing is I like tinkering enough that I put in a Swiftech 220X water cooling system in my machine, and I'm running it stock! Talk about totally unnecessary. Oh well. I'm well set up, however, if I want to watercool whatever 1080 card I end up getting, or if I do move up to an Intel i7 6850 I can water cool it from day 1. I suppose if people want to spent time and money building machines just so they can measure them and compare measurements with other people on the internet, I can't really find fault with that. I've got two violins and an electric guitar I can't really play well that would make me a hypocrit if I said otherwise. Still, I can't resist the impulse to remind some of these guys that their computers are actually made to be used, too. Stroking their e-peen is all fine and good if that's what they really want to do, but at least they should man up and admit that's what they're doing.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:07 AM
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Lokius81 Even on stock settings it seems like my 1080 SC runs quite hot..... i have to move to fan profile to 70% manualy just to keep it in the low to mid 70s.... is this normal? Its quite noisy at 70%....
Hard to say exactly without knowing what case you have and your airflow. Seems a little high. Im not sure what GPU utility you are running but make sure you have an aggressive fan curve to help get rid of the heat before you get above 70. As far as having the fastest OC, its like tuning a car to make it the faster. Some people just to do it to see how fast they can make it go. The 1080 can easily play just about anything at 4k with decent frame rates. You might have to tinker with some settings but more often than not the difference will be negligible.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:13 AM
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EpicDonkey As far as having the fastest OC, its like tuning a car to make it the faster. Some people just to do it to see how fast they can make it go. The 1080 can easily play just about anything at 4k with decent frame rates. You might have to tinker with some settings but more often than not the difference will be negligible.
I'd say a 22-27% improvement in core speed is more than a negligible difference. At 3440x1440 it's taken multiple games from ~50fps on ultimate to completely steady 60 with vsync.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:09 AM
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EpicDonkey As far as having the fastest OC, its like tuning a car to make it the faster. Some people just to do it to see how fast they can make it go. The 1080 can easily play just about anything at 4k with decent frame rates. You might have to tinker with some settings but more often than not the difference will be negligible.
I'd say a 22-27% improvement in core speed is more than a negligible difference. At 3440x1440 it's taken multiple games from ~50fps on ultimate to completely steady 60 with vsync.
He is saying, I assume, that the difference between the card's boost clock and max overclock is negligible. Which it is. When the card is running 3D applications it is not at "core" speed. The FTW automatically boosts to 1987 Mhz; max overclock to 2045 Mhz. About 2.9% increase which will net maybe 1 FPS @ 4k.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:43 AM
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The_Ether_Bunny He is saying, I assume, that the difference between the card's boost clock and max overclock is negligible. Which it is. When the card is running 3D applications it is not at "core" speed. The FTW automatically boosts to 1987 Mhz; max overclock to 2045 Mhz. About 2.9% increase which will net maybe 1 FPS @ 4k.
Results depend on the individual card and can be far from negligible. 1070 FE boost is 1683, 1070 FTW boost 1797, my FE is running at 2100-2150. That's still about 25% over stock and 17-20% over stock FTW. As I've said before, it's the difference between ~50fps and solid synced 60 for me at 3440x1440.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:28 AM
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Guys... 2GHz is good and anything higher depends on the silicon lottery! With cards that have clock speeds close to the 2GHz will of course not offer a huge additional offset. Also please don't make statements like "+150MHz" is good/bad. Evey card depends differently, so the only correct statements are the ones about the achieved clock speeds like 2.1GHz. In the end it comes always to the same conclusion: If you plan to OC your card anyway, get the cheapest card with the best cooler and OC it to 2GHz straight away.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:49 PM
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zshadez Results depend on the individual card and can be far from negligible. 1070 FE boost is 1683, 1070 FTW boost 1797, my FE is running at 2100-2150. That's still about 25% over stock and 17-20% over stock FTW. As I've said before, it's the difference between ~50fps and solid synced 60 for me at 3440x1440.
1683 is the advertised boost. The actual boost is 2000. You can overclock it to 2150. Which is an increase of 7.5% which is not scalable with FPS. 1-2 FPS max.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:35 PM
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LOL I would never RMA a card cuse it goes to +85 instead of +150. I run a 1440p monitor and this cards eats everything i throw at it at 1440p with DSR set to x4
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:52 PM
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My point was not that OCing a card produces a negligible difference, there are so many variables and results may vary lol. What I was saying is the performance increase you get by OCing your card can often be achieved by a small amount of tinkering in settings. For example, antialiasing at 4K can be turned down if not off and the visual difference be negligible but a noticeable performance gain.
My personal experience, I do get a bit smoother gameplay in more demanding games with my OC but I was already getting solid 60 fps with the SC's stock clocks. My 1080 SC with stock clocks has handled everything I've thrown at it as well @1440p and @4k with small adjustments.
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sethleigh
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:12 PM
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I run a 4k monitor and I've been trying for days to get an SC. I'm told that on Friday some SCs were available briefly on Newegg, but I missed them by a few minutes. I did see some EVGA FE in stock, and had one in my cart with my mouse finger hovering over the Place Order button, but I made myself be patient and hold off. I don't want to pay an extra $50 just to have instant gratification.
The longer it takes, in fact, the more I'm thinking of waiting for a stock 1080 GTX (the $609 version from EVGA) that looks like a FE but with a less fancy shroud. For the difference in price I could nearly pay for a EF water block, and then if I choose to do any OCing I'd probably get as good as most cards out there.
Anyhow, still hovering near my computer waiting for nowinstock.net to beep at me, still refreshing Newegg and EVGA's pages from time to time, etc. It'll happen, and I bet it happens soon. I've had to down-rez The Division to 1080p on my 4K monitor to keep it playable, and blowing each pixel up into 4 looks kinda crappy. Oh well, if that's the worse of my problems I live a blessed life.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:23 PM
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tubbing LOL I would never RMA a card cuse it goes to +85 instead of +150. I run a 1440p monitor and this cards eats everything i throw at it at 1440p with DSR set to x4
x4 DSR on top of 1440? that is 5k. lol you do not even have a clue what you are saying as no way in hell a 1080 can play all games at freaking 5k with decent performance.
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Re: Overclocking with a evga 1080 SC
Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:27 PM
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tubbing During benching it runs at 2025 solid during firestrike stress test. But soon as I move the slider to anything plus 85 it fails regardless how much voltage I throw at it.
2025 Mhz on a GTX 1080 is perfectly acceptable, better than some GTX 1080 cards can overclock to. As a rule of thumb with 1080 cards anything over 2000MHz is a pretty decent overclock for the card to reach
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