I don't understand how people can be surprised by a non-blower card heating up the inside of a case more than a blower card does. Especially in a case without fans on the side sucking cold air right onto the GPU.

aardvark1134
You are comparing an apple to an orange...
If your case sucks at cooling the FE will be better for you as it pushes a higher % of the heat out of the case.
However if your case is really good at getting rid of heat the EVGA card will be better as its better at removing heat from the card...but if your case can't export that heat...then you have an issue.
 
It's not that the FE is better it's that it's designed with poor case cooling in mind.

^^This

The FE is awesome. Please tell EVERYONE! I would encourage anyone interested in it to get it.
 
Now move out of the way I need to practice my F5 skills for a FTW3 Ultra...

Seems to be very situational since in this test he uses a CPU heatsink cooler. That puts the FE blowing air right into a fan on the CPU and then out the back. If the CPU used a CLC it wouldn't have the fan it's blowing into and would totally change the airflow in the case.

It's going to be between the FE and FTW3 for me, whichever i can get sooner. Will pass on the XC3 versions.

Hoggle
Seems to be very situational since in this test he uses a CPU heatsink cooler. That puts the FE blowing air right into a fan on the CPU and then out the back. If the CPU used a CLC it wouldn't have the fan it's blowing into and would totally change the airflow in the case.

And there you go he has terrible old style cpu cooling...probably has substandard case cooling too...   I have never had any video card evga or other overheat any of my cases ever while not overclocked.   And typically can run both the card and cpu overclocked for years with no issues.

Huntercyril

Sanctuary
This test is so flawed it's pathetic, and so many people in that video keep proclaiming the FE superior "because this dumb test that JayzNoSense came up with says so!".
You can't just lock them at the same fan speeds and act like that's all there is to it, because noise level matters also.  The FTW should be able to ramp up to a higher speed with less noise and equalize, or come close to equalizing to the same temps, and even possibly cooler if your case was already set up for positive pressure.  It's already been shown on GN that the FE is not the best thermally.

Jay and Jacob already talked about this on Twitter, confirming this was NOT a way to test the XC3 but a way to show how FE Cooler would work with a certain amount of heat. That doesn't mean XC3 was pushed to the best of its cooler abilities. In fact, one of his previous videos on open test bench he said it was around 60 / 65°C while being quieter than the FE. 
 
But the best would be to wait for more extensive reviews of XC3 / FTW3 that should take place in the next days / weeks anyway. With more data we'll get more accuracy. When I saw this video at first I was worried but by crossing videos of himself and others I quickly was reassured that the test was not to demonstrate anything probative about the XC3. 

65c? seriously which video are you talking about, as far as i know jay even does not dare to show to temp & rpm & power in gpuz/hwinfo.


 
savage post!

These 2-slot Evga coolers are better than people give them credit for, if set up properly, but at 300w+, poor airflow and lower fan speeds the card is going to get hot.

I have got my 3090 FTW3U too high temp due to AIO CLC which is broken by bad setup
 
tubes upside, pump is at the top position, that is not good for CLC
and my card is nearly 90C in RDR2,CPU is nearly 100C in 3Dmark 

 

 

 
Removed the M2 PCIE CARD is not usefully, it just down 5C 
 
After i Bought the new aio and change some fans,the temp is always below 73C
 


 

IWafflesI
It’s 100% true. I have a very well ventilated full size case (780t) and my 3090 XC3 runs 85c unless I pull the side panel off, which then runs at 80c. They really messed up on the XC3 models cooler.

 

komicaaa
I have got my 3090 FTW3U too high temp due to AIO CLC which is broken by bad setup
 
tubes upside, pump is at the top position, that is not good for CLC
and my card is nearly 90C in RDR2,CPU is nearly 100C in 3Dmark 

 

 

 
Removed the M2 PCIE CARD is not usefully, it just down 5C 
 
After i Bought the new aio and change some fans,the temp is always below 73C
 


 

IWafflesI
It’s 100% true. I have a very well ventilated full size case (780t) and my 3090 XC3 runs 85c unless I pull the side panel off, which then runs at 80c. They really messed up on the XC3 models cooler.

 

Great Info.  If you want the best GPU temps, you need to top mount your AIO (exhausting).

evgauser28764
https://youtu.be/Pl28NSuYMQc?t=452
7:32
 
82C, open tech bench.

Totally normal for the stock bios fan settings.

I'll stick to reviews languages I can understand because I can miss informations about his testing protocole. Though I'm not sure he really has one since he's putting his parts on the ground / table, and not in a real dedicated open test bench. That doesn't inspire trust / seriousness to me. You don't need a test bench to get results but that goes a long way to be seen as " real " tests in my opinion. To look more professional and to look more like he knows what he's doing and not just launching a bunch of games and calling that testing. You need to follow strict protocoles, because ambiant air might have risen or is already above some value, etc.

But the killer being that he's using "2K" to describe "1440p" which is a big no-no to me, people should know better than to let marketing say false things :/ 
 
I'm not criticizing him or anything to be clear I respect the time he spent, I just won't trust his results based on what I can see on his video. I'll wait patiently other reviews I know I can understand, trust and follow a protocole. 

aardvark1134
 
 terrible old style cpu cooling...

I can personally guarantee you that there is nothing "terrible old school" about be silent black rock cpu coolers.  My CPU was hitting 88c under load and I put a dark rock slim on it [half the size of the one in the video] with one silent wings fan blowing at normal bios speed, can barely hear it. and my CPU temps now stay under 50c under load. 
 
When I transitioned from 7700k to 10700k a few days back, I was able to be re-use the slim as they are compatible with LGA 1200 and even cooler, around 45c under load (the 5c less could be fresh paste of course, but still awesome)
 
 

kevinc313
 
 
Totally normal for the stock bios fan settings.

Huntercyril
I'll stick to reviews languages I can understand because I can miss informations about his testing protocole. Though I'm not sure he really has one since he's putting his parts on the ground / table, and not in a real dedicated open test bench. That doesn't inspire trust / seriousness to me. You don't need a test bench to get results but that goes a long way to be seen as " real " tests in my opinion. To look more professional and to look more like he knows what he's doing and not just launching a bunch of games and calling that testing. You need to follow strict protocoles, because ambiant air might have risen or is already above some value, etc.

But the killer being that he's using "2K" to describe "1440p" which is a big no-no to me, people should know better than to let marketing say false things :/ 
 
I'm not criticizing him or anything to be clear I respect the time he spent, I just won't trust his results based on what I can see on his video. I'll wait patiently other reviews I know I can understand, trust and follow a protocole. 

Jayz' channel is one of the more popular ones for PC stuff, but it's mainly because he does an OK job at giving layman explanations to the masses.  He tends to generalize too much though and also blurts out random assumptions if he doesn't have the proper data ahead of time, only to have to backpedal later when those assumptions are called out for being incorrect, and shown why.  If someone is first getting into building their own rigs, or they just want to know this stuff to know what to look for when buying a prebuilt or just general upkeep, or basic overclocking, he gives some decent basic advice.  Beyond that though, people should look elsewhere.