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Does anyone have any rumored release dates for the next Nvidia line of cards? The GK110?
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 21:23:14
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mid aguest to septermber otherwise excpect it during holliday
7970x2 will be released by end of july Nvidia loves releasing big boys after AMD
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 21:29:22
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Is the next Nvidia worth waiting for? I guess August/Sept. are just around the corner though... I have 2x580's. I was thinking about going 680, but I am still torn.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 21:32:03
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Believe nothing unless it is directly form Nvidia... You have been warned (Waves Jedi hand in a half moon shape)... Gossip creates frustration as the days go by................
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 21:34:46
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April 2013 - June 2013 GeForce 780 GTX
Expect 510-560mm² die size
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 21:40:35
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See! ahahahahahahahaa ^^^ Conflicting info... *Rubs laughter tears from eyes*
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 22:16:11
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http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13652/ How's about 660 Ti and 660 in about a month - probably $299 (Ti) and even lower for the non... Rumor is the Ti will be equal or even above a 580 depending on the benchmark!
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 22:28:40
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http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13652/
How's about 660 Ti and 660 in about a month - probably $299 (Ti) and even lower for the non...
Rumor is the Ti will be equal or even above a 580 depending on the benchmark!
Not to be rude but he asked about the GK110, not 104. He is asking about the 7xx release which we most likely won't see until next spring.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 23:26:48
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Is the next Nvidia worth waiting for? I guess August/Sept. are just around the corner though... I have 2x580's. I was thinking about going 680, but I am still torn.
Unless you just have the "upgrade bug" you have more than enough of a comfort zone with 2 GTX580's. They will let you play anything out there without issues. I know, I used to have a pair myself. I downgraded to a pair of GTX460's and I'm still able to play whatever I want. I say just sit tight, save your money (if Nvidia's taught us anything it's that their next high end GPU is gonna be expensive) and see what they bring to the table.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 23:30:39
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Short answer : Not this year and there is no business case for a GeForce GK110.  But there is a Tesla K20 with GK110 coming this winter for the supercomputing market. Chances are slim gamers will see a GK110, although loosely based on a previous rumor, I think we'll see GK112 which is a 2304-core GPU on a 384-bit interface early 2013. Gk104 didn't need the initially planned 384-bit interface to beat HD7970's 384-bit interface, but GK112 has 50% more cores, so 50% large interface would facilitate easier. Fact is, AMD debuted HD7970 is Janurary and it makes sense they will debut HD8970 again in early 2013, or thereabouts. While GK104 came two months afterwards, then the refresh is definitely not going to be a 2012 product release. The next few months will be reserved for midrange sales, the sweetspot when GTX660 comes after HD7800 for the first time in months and duke it out over the lucrative back-to-school through winter shopping season. By then AMD would have HD7600 (in their Trinity APU's) out and nVidia must push a GTS650 to maintain appeal of a dedicated card. They have a lot of work to do before another high-end comes with another name.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/16 23:37:56
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http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13652/
How's about 660 Ti and 660 in about a month - probably $299 (Ti) and even lower for the non...
Rumor is the Ti will be equal or even above a 580 depending on the benchmark!
Not to be rude but he asked about the GK110, not 104. He is asking about the 7xx release which we most likely won't see until next spring.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/17 02:46:24
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Not this year for sure. Better question would be when does AMD launch their next line, since nvidia will most likely not release theirs before AMD...
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/17 13:19:20
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lehpron....I think we'll see GK112 which is a 2304-core GPU on a 384-bit interface early 2013. GK112 is GK110... 2880 32b CUDA Cores/960 64b CUDA Cores -> 384b memory http://www.anandtech.com/...k110-based-tesla-k20/2 Tesla -> Q4 2012 -- GeForce -> Q2 2013 680 (March 2012) -> 780 (April(later) 2013) 680(GK104) -> 760 Ti(GK114) <-- this launches late july/august 2013
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/17 13:25:41
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Soon... As EVGA always says, until you wake up and see it already sold out.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/18 09:01:57
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lehpron....I think we'll see GK112 which is a 2304-core GPU on a 384-bit interface early 2013. GK112 is GK110...
2880 32b CUDA Cores/960 64b CUDA Cores -> 384b memory Where's the business case, i.e. does AMD has a 3000+ stream processor equivalent single-GPU to compete in less than a year? No, even the HD8970 doesn't have that; fact is the GK110 full die is reserved for higher premium supercomputer market since nVidia owns the majority of that market anyway, it isn't going to be a gamer GPU. The chances are higher we will get a cut down version just to meet AMD's HD8970 within the same margin GTX680 had with HD7970. It is ironic to me and totally unseen, it's the 8-series all over again. Back then AMD's R600 was so late that nVidia has a massive gap between midrange and high-end and one could say they overdesigned G80 for a threat that never showed. G84 could have been the 8800GTX then (since an 8600GTS beat a 7900GT, so a higher clocked version could have been good enough against X1900). There is still a massive gap even now, GT640 is a 384-core card while GTX660 Ti will either be 1152 or 1344 like GTX670. Purely in terms of nomenclature, if a 650 comes, it better occupy a big space of options. This time AMD isn't late, they already debuted products in that space, but nVidia's focus seems to have changed. nVidia decides to push a full GK110 anyway, it will be within 7% of GTX690 in performance and therefore carry the same price tag. I think nVidia saw that again this time, which could help explain why GK104 became GTX680; no point in using GK100 for a threat that wasn't there. Essentially GK100 was over-designed, same with GK110. It would have been a majoe waste of their resources without stealing sales from AMD. So again I ask, what GPU core is AMD bringing that will cause nVidia to push the full 2880-shader die to gamers? If 1536 CUDA cores beats 2048 stream processors, then scaling up a 2880-CUDA core requires an AMD GPU with 3840 stream processors to be competitive-- which is just under the upcoming HD7990 with a total of 4096 stream processors-- no such GPU core has reached the rumormill, which only means its debut isn't near enough to be part of the conversation yet. If you're familiar with an AMD Radeon codename and a spec, don't hold back. I don't see an AMD competitor to a fully-enabled GK110 die in 6 months, I do see a cut down version being called another name. But if you associate the cut-down as the same thing, then we're back to square one.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/18 16:12:45
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lehpronIf 1536 CUDA cores beats 2048 stream processors, then scaling up a 2880-CUDA core requires an AMD GPU with 3840 stream processors to be competitive-- which is just under the upcoming HD7990 with a total of 4096 stream processors-- no such GPU core has reached the rumormill, which only means its debut isn't near enough to be part of the conversation yet. The amount of ALUs doesn't matter. The only thing blurring the image for you is memory speed. The 7870 is faster than the 680 GTX. 1280 GCN ALUs > 1536/1344 CUDA ALUs. Placing the 7970 next to the GK112 which is the reason why it is getting a GeForce part because that memory speed issue will be gone with Canary Islands. 7870 with 6 GHz memory @ 1 GHz stock clock > 680 with 6 GHz memory @ 1.2 GHz overclock. Right now: 680 GTX with 6 GHz memory @ 1.1 GHz boost > 7870 with 4.8 GHz memory @ 1 GHz stock clock
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/18 18:49:59
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The 7870 is faster than the 680 GTX. You did it again, acting like it was obvious just because it is to you. Don't do that, you have to give a source and explain this only occurs in " compute" usage where so far all GeForce Keplers die against even slower HD7000 cards in both 32-bit and 64-bit floating point ops. You can't just generalize that "7870 is faster than GTX680" when most of us game and that gem will only get you in trouble.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/18 19:45:43
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The 7870 is faster than the 680 GTX.
1280 GCN ALUs > 1536/1344 CUDA ALUs.
That is not an accurate statement. The current generation AMD GPUs are better at some things such as double precision math but not everything. Kepler is very weak in the area of double precision that Tesla K20 should hopefully fix. However, if you run applications that do not require double precision calculations via the GTX 680, the GTX 680 is a very powerful card in that area and can outrun the 7970 in some cases. There are presently several distributed computing projects out there supporting both card types and in some cases AMD comes ahead and other cases NVIDIA Kepler comes ahead. Performance is going to depend on the precision of calculations, whether the application is CUDA or OpenCL based, whether the application supports CUDA 4.2 in the case of NVIDIA, the application design, etc... I am finding out recently that the GTX 680 can run very strong with OpenCL with one particular DC project and my 680 cards are showing faster execution time than users running the same application via the AMD 7970. There are too many factors to consider to make such a blanket statement. Both current generation AMD and NVIDIA cards have their strong and weak points.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/18 19:52:23
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seronx
The 7870 is faster than the 680 GTX.
1280 GCN ALUs > 1536/1344 CUDA ALUs.
That is not an accurate statement. The current generation AMD GPUs are better at some things such as double precision math but not everything. Kepler is very weak in the area of double precision that Tesla K20 should hopefully fix. However, if you run applications that do not require double precision calculations via the GTX 680, the GTX 680 is a very powerful card in that area and can outrun the 7970 in some cases. There are presently several distributed computing projects out there supporting both card types and in some cases AMD comes ahead and other cases NVIDIA Kepler comes ahead. Performance is going to depend on the precision of calculations, whether the application is CUDA or OpenCL based, whether the application supports CUDA 4.2 in the case of NVIDIA, the application design, etc... I am finding out recently that the GTX 680 can run very strong with OpenCL with one particular DC project and my 680 cards are showing faster execution time than users running the same application via the AMD 7970. There are too many factors to consider to make such a blanket statement. Both current generation AMD and NVIDIA cards have their strong and weak points.
I experienced that first hand with some of the crunching programs LR. I am not crunching right now due to the heat but there were a number of applications that my 7970s smoked the 680's then just the opposite! It's all in the application...simplified but true:)
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/19 04:08:43
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I'm talking about gaming only that is where the 7870/7850 and 680/670 are aimed at... They have relatively the same ALU count and performance in games if you leave out the shameful memory performance of the 7870 and 7850... I'm comparing a 212 mm² GPU to a 294 mm² GPU... The fact is only the memory speed is limiting the 7870 from beating the 680 GTX... even though some of the cards actually use the same model'ed memory as the 680 GTX. 7870 -> $299.99 680 -> $499.99 $200 difference/if similar memory speeds you get a 2 to 15 fps difference. Now note that the 7870 currently is using same memory chips. http://www.hardwaresecret...Video-Card-Review/1523 680 -> Go to figure 8 from above^ http://benchmarkreviews.c...mit=1&limitstart=2 7870 -> http://benchmarkreviews.c...T2C_Memory_Modules.jpg H5GQ2H24MFR <== 2 Gb rated for 7 Gbps(7 GHz)
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/19 14:41:15
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In CPU-intensive games, most higher-end or newer graphics will perform within each other; not GPU-intensive, so like Johnny_Utah and linuxrouter say's, it is largerly program dependant. But many of us play in GPU-intensive mode and care for every last drop of frame rates-- I don't, but I'm saying they do. Athough it is circumstantial to conclude popularity by sales since nVidia has yet to compete with HD7800's. GTX670 goes after HD7950 while GTX680 goes after HD7970. So while in many respects, the next nVidia GPU is another cut-down GK104 known as "GTX660 Ti", I just don't share the hope a full-die GK110 will appear anytime soon to justify the hope games have. I'm sure the next series high-end will be faster than GTX680, but slower than GTX690, and not faster than GTX690. The GPU that may beat GTX690 might be a Maxwell. Technically spealing, even GTX680 wasn't faster than GTX590, which was less than 30-40% better than GTX580-- but fans don't care. To them faster is faster. They are paying almost $5+ per 1% better, that is insane but their perogative.
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2012/07/19 17:44:57
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At the moment, nvidia has no need whatsoever to release a faster GPU, they can't even keep the 680's on the shelves as it is right now. Nothing AMD has to offer is even competing with the 680, much less the new monster that we have all seen leaked specs for. They simply do not need to release a new GPU until AMD steps up and releases a monster that will give nvidia the incentive to release something blazing fast, as long as AMD continues to come up short in the high end GPU segment, nvidia will continue to slide by with the bare minimum they can that beats out AMD's offerings. AMD will throw the next punch surely, and if they do a good job at, I would expect the 780 to be released in the following months. I will be waiting for the newer GPU, I have 570's in SLI that are handling everything for me fine at 1080p, while I would like to get a Kepler GPU, I dont NEED one at the moment. So I would say the very earliest you will see a new nvidia GPU is the beginning of 2013.
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
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whitnasty1At the moment, nvidia has no need whatsoever to release a faster GPU, they can't even keep the 680's on the shelves as it is right now. Nothing AMD has to offer is even competing with the 680, much less the new monster that we have all seen leaked specs for. 7870 > 680 whitnasty1They simply do not need to release a new GPU until AMD steps up and releases a monster that will give nvidia the incentive to release something blazing fast, as long as AMD continues to come up short in the high end GPU segment, nvidia will continue to slide by with the bare minimum they can that beats out AMD's offerings. 7970 > 690, the 7990 will never exist reference wise because AMD is so far ahead of Nvidia. whitnasty1AMD will throw the next punch surely, and if they do a good job at, I would expect the 780 to be released in the following months. I will be waiting for the newer GPU, I have 570's in SLI that are handling everything for me fine at 1080p, while I would like to get a Kepler GPU, I dont NEED one at the moment. So I would say the very earliest you will see a new nvidia GPU is the beginning of 2013. AMD January 2013 - March 2013 -> Canary Islands Nvidia April 2013 - August 2013 -> Kepler+
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/20 06:52:27
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whitnasty1At the moment, nvidia has no need whatsoever to release a faster GPU, they can't even keep the 680's on the shelves as it is right now. Nothing AMD has to offer is even competing with the 680, much less the new monster that we have all seen leaked specs for. 7870 > 680
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/20 07:34:04
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I still play most games on high just fine on 295 quad sli lol
I want to upgrade to a 30" 25 x 16 monitor, and that is the only reason I may have to upgrade (vram)
I agree with most that the prices they charge for high end cards is outrageous based on the performance (real world\in game) against lower end or even previous gen.
That being said I would guess early next year for the next gen which is what I am trying to hold out for. Until then keep saving lol
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
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whitnasty1At the moment, nvidia has no need whatsoever to release a faster GPU, they can't even keep the 680's on the shelves as it is right now. Nothing AMD has to offer is even competing with the 680, much less the new monster that we have all seen leaked specs for. 7870 > 680whitnasty1They simply do not need to release a new GPU until AMD steps up and releases a monster that will give nvidia the incentive to release something blazing fast, as long as AMD continues to come up short in the high end GPU segment, nvidia will continue to slide by with the bare minimum they can that beats out AMD's offerings. 7970 > 690, the 7990 will never exist reference wise because AMD is so far ahead of Nvidia.whitnasty1AMD will throw the next punch surely, and if they do a good job at, I would expect the 780 to be released in the following months. I will be waiting for the newer GPU, I have 570's in SLI that are handling everything for me fine at 1080p, while I would like to get a Kepler GPU, I dont NEED one at the moment. So I would say the very earliest you will see a new nvidia GPU is the beginning of 2013. AMD January 2013 - March 2013 -> Canary Islands
Nvidia April 2013 - August 2013 -> Kepler+
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
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On topic: seronx, don't kid yourself implying AMD too proud to counter GTX690 with HD7990, the card is delayed for technical reasons, it has to appear otherwise nVidia will have nothing to do, i.e. bad for customers. It is just that the higher power draw of HD7970 compared to GTX680 is the only thing against them where an HD7990 would push 30A similar to GTX590, while GTX690 sips 25A and may in fact be faster. Until HD7990 comes, there won't be another nVidia second tier high-end single-GPU card, per chrisdglong's original question. Somewhat off-topic: seronx
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=555 $299 vs $499 similar performance You're attempting the same logic I've tried once for central processors, performance per price-- it needs more finese because it is an extremely delicate argument to push. The argument is best suited for those that don't keep up with tech, or can't afford to. The point can get lost on some folks here. For instance, yes the GTX680 is approximately 25-40% faster than HD7870 while costing 60% more, depending on the game. But a $300 card and a $500 card do not compete. No one is helplessly stuck between which one to get. Competition means affecting cost and usually is applied to sharing the same customers by price, making HD7800's competition GTX560 Ti and maybe GTX570, or GTX480. Therefore GTX680's competition is HD7970, not anything from HD78x0. If you want to use the logic of getting a pair of HD78x0 against a single GTX680, that makes more sense since the price separation isn't so much. But then you also have to compare against HD79x0 just to keep it objective. 
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Re:Next Nvidia GPU Release Date?
2012/07/20 09:56:39
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whitnasty1At the moment, nvidia has no need whatsoever to release a faster GPU, they can't even keep the 680's on the shelves as it is right now. Nothing AMD has to offer is even competing with the 680, much less the new monster that we have all seen leaked specs for. 7870 > 680whitnasty1They simply do not need to release a new GPU until AMD steps up and releases a monster that will give nvidia the incentive to release something blazing fast, as long as AMD continues to come up short in the high end GPU segment, nvidia will continue to slide by with the bare minimum they can that beats out AMD's offerings. 7970 > 690, the 7990 will never exist reference wise because AMD is so far ahead of Nvidia.whitnasty1AMD will throw the next punch surely, and if they do a good job at, I would expect the 780 to be released in the following months. I will be waiting for the newer GPU, I have 570's in SLI that are handling everything for me fine at 1080p, while I would like to get a Kepler GPU, I dont NEED one at the moment. So I would say the very earliest you will see a new nvidia GPU is the beginning of 2013. AMD January 2013 - March 2013 -> Canary Islands
Nvidia April 2013 - August 2013 -> Kepler+
im slightly confused in what world is the 7870 faster than a 680
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