EVGA

Hot!NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December

Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
Author
Xavier Zepherious
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
  • Total Posts : 6126
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/07/04 12:53:39
  • Location: Medicine Hat ,Alberta, Canada
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 15
2020/10/07 16:32:50 (permalink)
According to Videocardz's sources, NVIDIA is now planning to launch the RTX 3080 20 GB variant sometime in December. We had first heard about the 20GB variant before the Ampere series was announced and it had originally been planned for release just after AMD's Big Navi. This new timeline would represent a delay of about a month or so - assuming AMD goes with a hard launch of their Big Navi series and NVIDIA would not have made such a decision lightly.
 
https://wccftech.com/nvid...or-launch-in-december/


Primes found        Affiliate Code:YN2AHK39LH

 
 
 
 
----------------------------
 
#1

30 Replies Related Threads

    ty_ger07
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 16826
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
    • Location: traveler
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 173
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/07 19:07:05 (permalink)
    I think that a 12 GB 3090 would be more interesting.
    I have no idea how they will market a 20 GB 3080.  Seems pointless.  Time and reviews will tell.
    #2
    GTXJackBauer
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 8875
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/19 22:23:25
    • Location: (EVGA Discount) Associate Code : LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 44
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/07 20:30:33 (permalink)


    ***  Interested in a RTX 3090 / 3080 / 3070 GPU?  ***
    Use this Associate Code at your checkouts or follow these instructions for Up to 10% discounts on all your EVGA purchases:
    LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    Use Rewards Code: C351C1UMYC when registering your EVGA products.
    (Invoice needs to be uploaded)
    *Thanks for your support!*
    #3
    Brad_Hawthorne
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 22439
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/06/06 16:13:06
    • Location: Dazed & Confused
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 36
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/07 21:51:18 (permalink)
    Saw that coming for awhile now. AIBs always do a double ram version of most cards. Not sure I'd understand a 12GB 3900 though.
    #4
    atfrico
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 11406
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/05/20 16:16:06
    • Location: <--Dip, Dip, Potato Chip!-->
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 23
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/07 22:10:53 (permalink)
    Told ya, I called it😼
    An exciting 300 series card with more than 12GB of RAM in place😺.
    That also means AMD will be releasing GPUs with the same amount of RAM😎👍

    Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!
     The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
    #5
    aka_STEVE_b
    EGC Admin
    • Total Posts : 14952
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/02/26 06:45:46
    • Location: Wouldn't you like to know....
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 49
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 04:33:51 (permalink)
    I have come to believe that Nvidia never actually planned to mass produce their own 3080 FE card in any kind of decent amounts on purpose.... until they saw what AMD has.
     They just wanted the early reviewers hype and news about their awesomeness....to get people in a frenzy.
     
     

    AMD RYZEN 9 3900X  12-core cpu~ Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite board ~ EVGA RTX 2080 SUPER XC2 ULTRA OC~ G.SKILL Trident Z NEO 16 GB DDR4 3600 ~ Phanteks Eclipse P400s red case ~ EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+ PSU ~ Intel 660p M.2 drive~ Crucial MX300 275 Gig SSD ~ CORSAIR H80i v2 cooler ~ CORSAIR Dark Core RGB Pro mouse ~ CORSAIR K68 Mech keyboard ~ HGST 4TB Hd.~ AOC AGON 31.5" Gaming monitor 2560 x 1440 @ 144Hz ~ Win 10 x64 
    ................ GET UP TO A 10% DISCOUNT ON PURCHASES BY CLICKING ....VVVVVVVVV.........


    #6
    atfrico
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 11406
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/05/20 16:16:06
    • Location: <--Dip, Dip, Potato Chip!-->
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 23
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 05:13:39 (permalink)
    aka_STEVE_b
    I have come to believe that Nvidia never actually planned to mass produce their own 3080 FE card in any kind of decent amounts on purpose.... until they saw what AMD has.
     They just wanted the early reviewers hype and news about their awesomeness....to get people in a frenzy.
     
     

    It's called Marketing strategy. Nvidia is a good on feeding hype

    Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!
     The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
    #7
    GTXJackBauer
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 8875
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/19 22:23:25
    • Location: (EVGA Discount) Associate Code : LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 44
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 09:58:50 (permalink)
    aka_STEVE_b
    I have come to believe that Nvidia never actually planned to mass produce their own 3080 FE card in any kind of decent amounts on purpose.... until they saw what AMD has.
     They just wanted the early reviewers hype and news about their awesomeness....to get people in a frenzy.
     



    It's looking like so when rumor has it AMD will have 16GB on their flagship.

    ***  Interested in a RTX 3090 / 3080 / 3070 GPU?  ***
    Use this Associate Code at your checkouts or follow these instructions for Up to 10% discounts on all your EVGA purchases:
    LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    Use Rewards Code: C351C1UMYC when registering your EVGA products.
    (Invoice needs to be uploaded)
    *Thanks for your support!*
    #8
    ty_ger07
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 16826
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
    • Location: traveler
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 173
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 10:53:08 (permalink)
    Brad_Hawthorne
    Not sure I'd understand a 12GB 3900 though.

    It's not an 8K card.

    Cut the VRAM in half for the huge majority of users who don't need 24 GB, and you can cut costs. Also, VRAM with half the density will easily have much better latencies, therefore better throughtput and better performance.
    Win, win. It would be very marketable for the majority of potential buyers. A cheaper, faster gaming card. Also better world record potential. It would be better for everyone other than high class production (a small majority anyway).

    A 20 GB 3080 doesn't seem very marketable. More expensive. Worse latencies. Slightly lower performance for the majority of users who don't actually ever use more than 10 GB of VRAM (12 to 14 GB actually available on standard 10 GB 3080 due to built-in hardware compression/decompression). And so forth.

    It will be very interesting to see how they market a 20 GB 3080. I think it will prove to be pointless and honest reviews will reveal as much. Double VRAM density cards have always proven to be worse for the majority of users.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/10/08 10:55:53
    #9
    the_Scarlet_one
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 20775
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 76
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 10:59:28 (permalink)
    ty_ger07
    Double VRAM density cards have always proven to be worse for the majority of users.


    Like the 780 6gb variant versus the 780 3gb. Not to mention there was the 780ti with 3gb that couldn’t go to 6gb because it would have been a Titan instead of a 780ti.

    NVidia makes odd choices.

    Random Associate Code >> GDWZE7QOTF << this is NOT my associate code. I do not have an associate code. Feel free to use it to save a few bucks.

      <- Clickable link to my Main PC Specs
    #10
    ReZpawN
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 276
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2020/09/17 16:22:46
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/08 22:05:02 (permalink)
    Dont see a point to spend what is probably going to be extra 300$ for no extra performance, you will be upgrading way before vram becomes an issue, and from todays amd event those fps number put big navi a bit slower than 3080 while big navi does have the 16gb of vram 
    #11
    Xavier Zepherious
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 6126
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/07/04 12:53:39
    • Location: Medicine Hat ,Alberta, Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 15
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/09 03:44:52 (permalink)
    they are developing games now that saturate the current 11GB or 12GB or even is bottlenecked by lack of enough ram in 4k
    so it begs to differ - we could most certainly use the extra ram if games are currently going to be designed to need it 
     
     
    now if you don't 4k Game no you don't need it
    and if you want to 8k game - which you can do with these cards then 12GB is most definitely not going to be enough with new games coming
     


    Primes found        Affiliate Code:YN2AHK39LH

     
     
     
     
    ----------------------------
     
    #12
    castrator86
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 420
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/07/24 09:33:21
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/09 06:53:15 (permalink)
    Really should've been a 16GB base chip, not 10.


    #13
    GTXJackBauer
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 8875
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/19 22:23:25
    • Location: (EVGA Discount) Associate Code : LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 44
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/09 20:05:41 (permalink)
    Xavier Zepherious
    they are developing games now that saturate the current 11GB or 12GB or even is bottlenecked by lack of enough ram in 4k
    so it begs to differ - we could most certainly use the extra ram if games are currently going to be designed to need it 
     
     
    now if you don't 4k Game no you don't need it
    and if you want to 8k game - which you can do with these cards then 12GB is most definitely not going to be enough with new games coming
     



    Couldn't have agreed more but some people are being stubborn to look outside the box.

    ***  Interested in a RTX 3090 / 3080 / 3070 GPU?  ***
    Use this Associate Code at your checkouts or follow these instructions for Up to 10% discounts on all your EVGA purchases:
    LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
    Use Rewards Code: C351C1UMYC when registering your EVGA products.
    (Invoice needs to be uploaded)
    *Thanks for your support!*
    #14
    ty_ger07
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 16826
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
    • Location: traveler
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 173
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/09 21:31:26 (permalink)
    Xavier Zepherious
    so it begs to differ - we could most certainly use the extra ram if games are currently going to be designed to need it 

    Like I said, we will see, won't we?
    If a double VRAM card finally proves to perform better for the majority, it will be a first.  ;)
    It's a matter of fact that if you double the VRAM density, the VRAM has lower performance; and a matter of fact that the GPU core performance has always been the limiting factor at high resolutions whenever these comparisons have been made in the past.
    Have the tables finally turned? No need to argue. We will see.

    Personally, a higher performance, cheaper 3090 makes more sense to me; versus a lower performance, more expensive 3080. A "12 GB" 3090 could store up to around 16 GB of texture data utilizing its built-in hardware VRAM compression/decompression. That should be more than enough for 4K gaming for a long time to come. 8K gaming? What are you talking about? The card can't handle native 8K gaming. And if you use DLSS to achieve a playable fake 8K resolution, you have nothing to worry about VRAM-wise.

    Again, with the same core, a 20 GB 3080 WILL BE SLOWER than a 10 GB 3080 UNTIL the 10 GB 3080 runs out of VRAM. That's crazy, but true. So, like I said, we will have to wait and see if/when the 10 GB (12-14 GB usable) 3080 runs out of VRAM. Those reviews will come, and they will be interesting. It's just crazy to market something like 'this card costs more and will be slower, until it catches its stride and starts to shine right before the core runs out of ability and the FPS drops to a point that it no longer even matters'. The same thing which has been repeated for a decade.

    The performance would be less at first, and then there would be some window where the performance would be better, before the core falls on its face and it doesn't even matter any more. How big is that window going to be? That's the question. In the past, that window has been so small that it hasn't made sense for the majority of users.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/10/10 04:47:59
    #15
    CraptacularOne
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 12981
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/06/12 17:20:44
    • Location: Florida
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 179
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/09 22:32:25 (permalink)
    I'm betting this proposed 20GB variant will be a "Ti" class card. It's probably going to get a few more SMs unlocked and slot in between the 3090 and 3080 in price and performance. There is a giant gap left between $699 and $1499 that I'm sure Nvidia is eager to fill. 
     
    If I had to take a stab at I'd say it's gonna have between 72 and 76 SMs active for 9,216 and 9,728 CUDA cores respectively, still gonna have the same 320bit bus and more than likely same memory speed but I could see them bumping it up to match the 3090 at 19.5Ghz or maybe land at an even 20Ghz. That would land memory bandwidth at 780Gbps and 800Gbps depending if they did decide to give it a bump. I'd think a retail MSRP of $899-$999 would get us in the ballpark too. 

    i9 10850K @5Ghz H2O.........................Ryzen 9 3900X @ 4.3Ghz.
    PNY XLR8 RTX 3090.............................Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity OC
    Viotek SUW49C 32:9 Ultra Wide............Oculus Rift S
    Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC................ASUS TUF Gaming X570 WiFi
    32GB Dominator Platinum 4000Mhz.......32GB OLOy Warhawk 3600Mhz
    EVGA G3 SuperNova 1000w..................EVGA G3 SuperNova 750w
    #16
    Miguell
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 610
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/16 14:43:51
    • Location: Portugal
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/10 13:03:47 (permalink)
    well 20GB...  ok...
     
    16GB i would get it... but 20GB? that's a LOT considering 3 years ago ( in 2017) 11GB was already a ton of Vram on the 1080's Ti!
     
    am i missing something here? are games gonna be that Vram needy next 4 years??
     
    fine then .... as long as the performance is there i guess no one cares how much Vram they stuff in there... just for show i guess!!
     

    Case: Cooler Master Stacker 830 (BLACK)
    Display: 32" AOC Q3279VWFD8 @2560x1440@75Hz
    Cpu: Intel Core i7-8700
    Cpu Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB
    Mobo: Asus ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming
    Vga: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Ram: 32GB DDR4   G.Skill - RIPJAWS V  @3200Mhz
    Sound: Hama uRage soundZbar 2.1 Unleashed - Optical
    Storage: 120GB SSD UV400 Kingston (OS) + 4TB HDD Toshiba X300
    Psu: SeaSonic M12 700W
    OS: W10 Pro  64-Bit  (version 2004)
    #17
    Xavier Zepherious
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 6126
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/07/04 12:53:39
    • Location: Medicine Hat ,Alberta, Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 15
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/10 14:04:16 (permalink)
    yeah and most game are 2k not 4k
     
    we are headed into 4k normalized and 8k on the leading edge of gaming
     
    quit thinking people are gonna stay on 2k monitors and whether they will build 2k monitors anymore sometime soon


    Primes found        Affiliate Code:YN2AHK39LH

     
     
     
     
    ----------------------------
     
    #18
    veganfanatic
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1563
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/20 18:08:41
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/17 17:59:00 (permalink)
    8K is still a ways off
     
    4K is sill very extreme
     
     


    • Cooler Master HAF 932 with the Corsair HX1000i PSU
    • I have been a vegan since 1969. I have experienced more prejudice than anyone could possibly ever imagine.
    #19
    kougar
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2121
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/05/08 10:11:19
    • Location: Texas
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 12
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 04:16:27 (permalink)
    Doubling the RAM is nothing new, NVIDIA / AIBs doubled the VRAM on 750 Tis from 2GB to 4GB even though it was silly to do so. 20GB on a 3080 will basically only be useful for non-gaming applications. It'll be a cheaper model Titan.
     
    Brad_Hawthorne
    Saw that coming for awhile now. AIBs always do a double ram version of most cards. Not sure I'd understand a 12GB 3900 though.



    Why not? You'd see better performance from a 12GB 3090 than a 20GB 3080, and the 12GB 3090 would cost less to make too. There's 16 shader modules disabled on the 3080.


    Have water, will cool. 
     
    Don't forget to use an Associate Code at checkout for extra savings! Associate Code: FWBXGF17CKOMCIV
    #20
    Flonkam
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 259
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2018/12/02 17:58:43
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 08:13:04 (permalink)
    CraptacularOne
    It's probably going to get a few more SMs unlocked and slot in between the 3090 and 3080 in price and performance. There is a giant gap left between $699 and $1499 that I'm sure Nvidia is eager to fill. 

    The problem is that there isn't room between the 3080 and 3090 in terms of performance. I'm not arguing business strategy, but the 3090 (which is not a TITAN, period) is bad enough--you have to admit that an 8% performance increase would be an utter joke of the x80 Ti branding at any price. If NVIDIA asks two or three hundred dollars more for that, we've regressed all the way back to the days of the 8800 Ultra, lol.
     
    Alright, there would be a lot more VRAM, but I still haven't gotten used to these prices.
     
    Regarding VRAM, it seems to me that some people are basing their assumptions on the progress of the last seven years, and not taking into account the fact that VRAM usage is going to increase significantly overnight when the first next-gen-only games are released. My understanding is that that is not supposed to happen until two years after the consoles release, but I don't think it's at all unlikely that it could occur sooner.
     
    With the massive price increase of GPUs, I would assume there are many people who are trying to keep their high-end GPUs longer than they traditionally would. I know I am. If I buy a 30-Series card six months from now, I expect to use it for at least 2 years. I certainly wouldn't want to be using a 10GB card 4 years after I bought an 11GB card, and 5.5 years after the first 11GB xTi card, in a new generation of console-to-PC ports.
    #21
    ty_ger07
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 16826
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
    • Location: traveler
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 173
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 08:26:20 (permalink)
    Flonkam
    I certainly wouldn't want to be using a 10GB card 4 years after I bought an 11GB card, and 5.5 years after the first 11GB xTi card, in a new generation of console-to-PC ports.

    It seems to me that some people are basing their assumptions on the idea that a 3080 only has room for 10 GB of texture data. You can't compare a 10 GB 3080 to a 11 GB 2080Ti.
    The RTX 3xxx series has built in hardware VRAM compression and decompression and NVIDIA advertises that the 3080 should be able to store 12 to 14 GB of data in its 10 GB of VRAM.

    I already said all of that at least once before.

    So, again, a "12 GB" 3090 seems very marketable, if NVIDIA isn't afraid of undercutting its existing 3090 sales. A "12 GB" 3090 should be able to store 14 to 16 GB of texture data which should be plenty for 4K gaming for a long, long time to come. The 3090 is not an 8K capable card, unless DLSS is used. But DLSS decreases VRAM consumption drastically compared to native 8K resolution, so again "12 GB" should be more than enough.

    I think that the 3080 will fall on its face before 12 to 14 GB of VRAM is consumed. Time will tell.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/10/18 08:30:15
    #22
    Flonkam
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 259
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2018/12/02 17:58:43
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 12:37:37 (permalink)
    ty_ger07
    The RTX 3xxx series has built in hardware VRAM compression and decompression and NVIDIA advertises that the 3080 should be able to store 12 to 14 GB of data in its 10 GB of VRAM.

    I already said all of that at least once before.

    Yes, and I passed over it because I didn't necessarily agree with your assumptions. I'll be glad to accept it if you can provide the info you're working from, but the only new compression tech I'm aware of accelerates transfer rates between storage and VRAM. This could potentially reduce required VRAM by virtue of the ability to stream data in fast enough to avoid keeping unneeded data on the card.
     
    But, this won't "effectively increase" VRAM at all, because the Series X uses the same compression. I.e. the PC has to use it just to keep up with the console--and then you factor in the standard significantly higher VRAM usage over consoles due to the complete lack of PC-focused coding and optimization.
     
    If you are talking about something else, I'll take a look at it, but this is the only thing I'm familiar with.
     
    Even if next-gen games have to be designed to the level of the Series S and not the Series X, there's still a huge jump in shared memory amount, so if games are already utilizing 7 or 8GB at 4K max, I don't assume that 10GB will cut it for next gen.
     
    ty_ger07
    The 3090 is not an 8K capable card, unless DLSS is used.

    I'm glad other people are saying this too, lol. I find it mind-boggling that people are actually talking about "8K gaming" like the phrase makes any sense, just because it fell from the lips of Jen-Hsun once or twice. Something like 5% of gamers are on 4K right now. Nobody games on an 8K display. Nobody is going to be gaming on an 8K display before the 30 Series is very old news. And no, supersampling doesn't count: 1920x1080 at 4x DSR isn't "4K gaming".
    #23
    ty_ger07
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 16826
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/04/10 23:48:15
    • Location: traveler
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 173
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 14:36:30 (permalink)
    I'm not talking about nvcache. I am talking about tensor memory compression. NVIDIA says that it compresses textures in vram 20-40% effectively making it as if you have 20-40% more vram. It seems like there aren't any examples of it being implemented yet though, for some reason.
    I guess time will tell.
    Maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe it doesn't actually exist. Maybe it is just a CUDA thing.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/10/18 15:03:29
    #24
    Brad_Hawthorne
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 22439
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/06/06 16:13:06
    • Location: Dazed & Confused
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 36
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 16:29:00 (permalink)
    ty_ger07
    I'm not talking about nvcache. I am talking about tensor memory compression. NVIDIA says that it compresses textures in vram 20-40% effectively making it as if you have 20-40% more vram. It seems like there aren't any examples of it being implemented yet though, for some reason.
    I guess time will tell.
    Maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe it doesn't actually exist. Maybe it is just a CUDA thing.

    The thing is, unless Nivida makes it a driver level implementation, it's not going to get used by game devs in engines unless Nvidia pays the company to implement it. The problem with Nvidia proprietary features is they don't get used unless Nvidia appeals the the pocketbook of the game dev. Nvidia throws marketing money at stuff like that for presentation demo content. There is always resistance from implementing it without a reason though. I get the feeling game devs feel a bit of resentment being made into the marketing arm for a hardware manufacturer unless they're getting a good chunk of cash for it. It's just like multi-GPU scaling in DX12. Microsoft has it there for devs to implement but it never will be used because it's not just there transparently at a driver level. If a game dev has to invest time and money to implement something there needs to be a ROI for it or you'll never see it done.
    post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2020/10/18 16:44:54
    #25
    atfrico
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 11406
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/05/20 16:16:06
    • Location: <--Dip, Dip, Potato Chip!-->
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 23
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/18 22:34:52 (permalink)
    Brad_Hawthorne

    The thing is, unless Nivida makes it a driver level implementation, it's not going to get used by game devs in engines unless Nvidia pays the company to implement it.

    I get the feeling game devs feel a bit of resentment being made into the marketing arm for a hardware manufacturer unless they're getting a good chunk of cash for it. If a game dev has to invest time and money to implement something there needs to be a ROI for it or you'll never see it done.

    I am glad you noticed what is going on behind close doors.
    This is the reason why not many game developers jumped in the RT wagon.
    It takes time and money for game developers to implement something it wont benefit them unless Nvidia pays the developers to add this into the games.
    This is the many reason why most game developers looked away during these past years. It is definitely different now since most gamers, consoles and PC alike, are interested in RT being in most of the new games.
    The high VRAM amount is going to play a big factor...IMO.

    Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!
     The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
    #26
    veganfanatic
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1563
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/20 18:08:41
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/19 07:37:45 (permalink)
    I have noticed that several recent games are saturating the 8GB of VRM I have on my RTX 2080 suggesting its time to move to 16GB
     
    Along comes Ampere and more of the same, going cheap on the VRAM
     
    AMD has not been so cheap and even my RTX 480 has 8GB and that card competed with 3GB and 6GB cards
     


    • Cooler Master HAF 932 with the Corsair HX1000i PSU
    • I have been a vegan since 1969. I have experienced more prejudice than anyone could possibly ever imagine.
    #27
    Flonkam
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 259
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2018/12/02 17:58:43
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/19 15:41:48 (permalink)
    Brad_Hawthorne
    If a game dev has to invest time and money to implement something there needs to be a ROI for it or you'll never see it done.

    That's what's so aggravating/depressing, though!
     
    Of course there's a return on investment. PC versions/ports make lots of profit.** Developing a game involves the implementation of all kinds of things that increase the quality of the experience. The problem isn't that there's no "return" on a particular feature, it's that AAA developers don't have any interest in expending money or effort on the PC version/port if the clear majority of the market throws full price at them for minimum effort toss-ports.
     
    In other words, in general--but especially regarding PC--the (unscrupulous) principals of today's AAA industry have no interest in video games per se. Zero passion. They are interested only in video games as a means of generating revenue.
     
    A scrupulous company run by principals who actually like video games would attempt to deliver the best experience possible, even if it meant less projected profit. The closest thing we have to that today is CDPR.
     
    ** I love those people who defend PC mediocrity by insisting that "PC doesn't make as much money as consoles!". "As much money", lol. As if it's okay to be unscrupulous because you're not making as much of a massive profit margin.
     
    If it was "PC actually loses money and is an entirely charitable operation" then they would actually make sense. Never mind that XBox and PS are usually illegitimately lumped together as if they are one platform and then compared to PC, when their development is no more identical to each other than is a console and PC.
    #28
    rsxownes
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 268
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/05/01 08:27:13
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/19 19:56:34 (permalink)
    I agree, 4K nowhere near normalized.

    Current RIG
    Case: Phanteks Enthoo Primo black case
    CPU: 6850K @ 4.4Ghz 1.29 Vcore
    MB: Asus X99 Deluxe II
    RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 series 32GB DDR4 2666
    PS: EVGA 80 PLUS Platinum 1000 W
    Harddrive: 4 850 Pros Raid 0
    GPUs: SLI EVGA 1080Ti FTW3
     
    Heatware: https://heatware.com/eval.php?id=100702
     

    #29
    Hoggle
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 6337
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2003/10/13 22:10:45
    • Location: Eugene, OR
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 4
    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 20 GB Currently Planned For Launch In December 2020/10/19 20:11:37 (permalink)
    veganfanatic
    8K is still a ways off
     
    4K is sill very extreme
     
     




    4K used to be extreme for monitors. Two months ago if you made a 4K gaming monitor you could count on the buyer probably having dropped $1200 on a 2080Ti graphics card and could sell a $800 monitor because people who bought it had a huge budget. Now people can spend $700 and want to game at 4K. It opens up a larger market for people who are looking for a $400-500 4K monitor with some gaming features. It might not be top of the line gaming and those monitors will still exist but we will start to see a new lineup of budget 4K gaming monitors start to show up soon. In a few years these budget monitors will start to have some really good 4K gaming options.

    Use an Associates Code & SAVE 5% - 10% on your purchase. Just click on the associates banner to save, or enter the associates code at checkout on your next purchase. If you choose to use my code I want to personally say "Thank You" for using it. 
     
     
    #30
    Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile