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My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper

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2022/04/15 15:16:14 (permalink)
This is just something i thought i would share with the group.

I just want to say first, compared to OTHER 3090 KINGPIN's, the chip in my 3090 KINGPIN absolutely sucks, so there's that too. But this is how my card performed as it began life with a AIO when i got it in November/December 2020 and then swapping it over to a Hydro Copper this week. 

Port Royal Benchmark
 
AIO Run - Best Score - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/976027
LN2 BIOS
No Classified Tool
5.3Ghz All Core
+110 Core ( the maximum my chip will do in port royal, anything over 110 on the core or clocking to 2130MHz during the run was a crash)
+1475 Memory
 
Hydro Copper Run - Best Score (so far) - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1531948
LN2 BIOS
No Classified Tool
5.3GHz All Core
+115 Core (clocked to 2145MHz for a few scenes. went back and forth on certain scenes, some maintained 2115MHz while other scenes maintained 2130MHz)(Also +120 on the core is a crash)
+1550 Memory
 
Hoping i can find a way to squeeze a little more but I'm afraid my chip just isn't as good as others and it appears i can't add more the core clock than i am already giving it. 
post edited by NotoriouS^ - 2022/04/15 15:20:58

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    redteamgo
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 15:39:34 (permalink)
    Your scores are not bad for the ln2. The big scores you see are from people using the 1000w bios and the classified tool to control voltage. Ambient temp plays a big role too

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 15:44:58 (permalink)
    My 2080ti Kingpin is extremely limited to overclocks until you use the secret bois and classified tools to tweak and control it better. I have to agree the 3090 Kingpin would be the same. I have always felt these cards have amazing potential if using the right soft6and bios. Of course this goes with saying use at your own risk.

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 15:50:25 (permalink)
    Wow.. guess I should stop crying about my ftw3 3090 that I can bench at around 2150 under volted at.981mv.

    Max temp at 35-37c.

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 15:52:08 (permalink)
    What temps for your card on water?

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 16:25:05 (permalink)
    Because I have a better score with a worse cpu with
    Ftw3 ultra with bios 500w, air cooled.

    http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1527808


     
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 16:59:42 (permalink)
    AHowes
    What temps for your card on water?

    at 39c for most of the run then gets to 43c

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 17:29:40 (permalink)
    Card doesn’t suck but if you want higher scores you do need the 1000w and classified or dip switches
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 18:03:33 (permalink)
    zippytek
    Card doesn’t suck but if you want higher scores you do need the 1000w and classified or dip switches

    I have the classified and the 1000w BIOS just haven't had the balls to flash the BIOS lol.

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 18:03:54 (permalink)
    Yeah I guess I'll come back when the 5080-5090 kingpin hits and I see whats doing..

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 20:06:06 (permalink)
    Run ln2 or dice if you want high scores on the kingpin it’s marginally better than any 3090 on ambient.

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/15 22:49:06 (permalink)
    I feel like something might be wrong with your card. this is with the galax bios but I wasn't far behind without it on my 3080ti.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/16 11:10:10 (permalink)
    Shraf2k
    I feel like something might be wrong with your card. this is with the galax bios but I wasn't far behind without it on my 3080ti.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587


    It only pulls 430W in port Royal on the 520W BIOS. i tried for weeks about a year ago to figure it out but gave up, nothing i tried worked and with so many mixed reviews on it it just wasn't worth investing more time messing with it. With the slider all the way to 121% it goes to about 108% is as high as i have seen it go.

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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/16 11:30:23 (permalink)
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    I feel like something might be wrong with your card. this is with the galax bios but I wasn't far behind without it on my 3080ti.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587


    It only pulls 430W in port Royal on the 520W BIOS. i tried for weeks about a year ago to figure it out but gave up, nothing i tried worked and with so many mixed reviews on it it just wasn't worth investing more time messing with it. With the slider all the way to 121% it goes to about 108% is as high as i have seen it go.


    You can generally add about 25+watts to that due to underreporting. Have you flashed the updated bios with fastboot disabled?
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/16 14:45:26 (permalink)
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    I feel like something might be wrong with your card. this is with the galax bios but I wasn't far behind without it on my 3080ti.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587


    It only pulls 430W in port Royal on the 520W BIOS. i tried for weeks about a year ago to figure it out but gave up, nothing i tried worked and with so many mixed reviews on it it just wasn't worth investing more time messing with it. With the slider all the way to 121% it goes to about 108% is as high as i have seen it go.


    You can generally add about 25+watts to that due to underreporting. Have you flashed the updated bios with fastboot disabled?


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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/16 15:17:30 (permalink)
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    I feel like something might be wrong with your card. this is with the galax bios but I wasn't far behind without it on my 3080ti.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1417587


    It only pulls 430W in port Royal on the 520W BIOS. i tried for weeks about a year ago to figure it out but gave up, nothing i tried worked and with so many mixed reviews on it it just wasn't worth investing more time messing with it. With the slider all the way to 121% it goes to about 108% is as high as i have seen it go.


    You can generally add about 25+watts to that due to underreporting. Have you flashed the updated bios with fastboot disabled?


    I have


    Another way I found I lost power and bench points was cheap extensions or bad connection at the extension. I switched to a set that uses 16awg wire and got back to the levels I was at just using the PSU cables.
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    Re: My results - 3090 KINGPIN AIO VS. 3090 KINGPIN Hydro Copper 2022/04/16 23:21:10 (permalink)
    5c difference in temps, and not even using classiied tool Yikes.
     
    If you can point a portable AC at the radiator you may gain 200-250 points.

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