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Re: Malaysian airplane lost over Ukraine
Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:22 AM
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Vlada011 It's easier for you... I care for this because I live close to them, and I never respect Russian ideology, repression and way of thinking. I would be much calmer with USA citizenship or UK citizenship... But I live in area where they influence are huge and where crazy generation don't have nothing against to destroy and life of younger. Because of that I say, I'm capable and ready rather for war against them than to live and respect their laws and philosophy. Someone maybe notice Putin always where they don't want influence of other nations to protect rights of people say Don't politicized that, Don't politicized this... On that way they want to distract international media from that problem. I only know how Croatia become better on many ways than Serbia after they gone from us. People there are more civilized, more human, like they have better soul. I can't say for 100% population is same but majority. Many solutions they do better than Serbia where you can obvious notice connection with Russia and similarity Serbia-Russia and Orthodox mentality. You should listen how TV poison minds of people in Serbia. War in ex YU start on that way because Croatia and special Slovenia didn't want Russian, socialism and communism influence in their country, they want EU and democracy, same as we today after 600.000 fugitives, people without homes, missing, killed... Serbia didn't want democracy...Other republic propose Federation of independence republic, together only without centralization and communism. That would be so strong democratic federation with nice economy, beautiful countries, sea, mountains, best sport league. Culprits is Serbia and communism/socialism. Serbia is guilty for all people who die and not only Serbia. Ideology from Russia don't want peace in Europe and democracy. 2 years before that Berlin wall is crushed and only Serbia try to keep Yugoslavia and communism and close relations with Russia. On that way war start, communism enter in Croatia/Bosnia and start war.When other republic try to separate Serbia attack them with intention to use every city and territory where Serbian people are present only 30-40% with propaganda to protect that people Croats. They non stop talk us about World War II and what happen then and if we not react Croatia will came in Belgrade. They explain to people as Croatia want part of Serbia,... non sense, people there only try to escape from communism and poverty. FOR EVERYTHING IS GUILTY RUSSIA DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. And what we have now after 25 years, all Balkan hate Serbia, Balkan sound bad only because Serbia and we are on beginning. Now Serbia want same as other countries, EU and true democracy, not only words, now Serbia only talk about military neutrality to avoid revenge of others for 3-4 wars they start only to protect socialism and like all poverty is not enough we still feel Russian lobby and ideology and their supporters are louder and louder, after everything what we survive. And USA is completely right, I understand completely they try to stop communism on their territory. That's poison and no bigger evil on that and all weapons against communism are allowed because worse propaganda, worse lies, worse manipulation with data and true are seen in countries under communism. Everything is sacrificed to keep ideology and people in special state of mind capable to support every non sense for country and regime. And what we see in Russia is classic dictatorship. Putin try to explain how they pay attention on democracy but he is charged for everything and he can kill 10.000 people tomorrow and 99% of institutions will support his reasons and decision. Who not support that media go down, prohibition of media, sites, censored words are reality and no one complain against that as on west. On that way Russia will use weakness of west countries where human life worth much more and where media and journalist pay attention on speech freedom, private life, human rights,...as they use situation with Edward "the traitor" S.
I agree with you. I see you are Serbian so i am interested what you are thinking about Serbian agression on Croatia in 1991? Was it the same thing as with Russians and Crimea? Serbians wanted teritory which never belongs to them and tried to keep it in blood by killing local Croatian citizens in their own country and forcing them to leave their homes.
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Re: Malaysian airplane lost over Ukraine
Monday, August 04, 2014 1:07 PM
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What can I think about cruel nation and savages I don't know what go wrong with Serbian genes? Aggression on Croatia was act of madness and classic example of socialistic repression. I can't compare that with Crimea because I don't know history of that region best but I see similarity because both are example of occupation. One occupation was unsuccessful and Croatia won fight from democracy and become excellent place for tourists other is successful and win of Evil because Russia have Nuclear Weapons. I hope Ukraine will find solution for people on Crimea who are loyal to Kiev to find them home in Ukraine and save them from cruelty and life without human rights because I afraid that thing is end and Russia will not leave Crimea. One thing is very strange...30 years Russia and their allies attack USA, NATO and all free world with true democracy because USA and UK behave as world policeman and try to present them as occupier only because they spend money and risk own life in fights against dictators and to stop to someone in some crazy country make something to destroy half world, and than suddenly Russia occupy Crimea, territory of other country for one months, only for self with intention to that territory stay for them. That is classic colonization. NATO never keep some territory for self, but minds of people in East Europe who have good relationship with Russia are always poisoned with worse lies from mouth of people who are in connection with Russian lobby about real reason why USA send Army in Iraq, Afghan,...But that is Russian propaganda, they are ready to do everything what blame other nations because of that and such minds born in their head. Same as officers of Yugoslavian Army who attack Croatia, all of them Serbian nationality talk worse lies about Croats. That's shame for soldiers to talks such lies... and I don't know how they can talk at all about Operation "Storm" when that was action free Croatia from communist occupier and nothing else, who can Serbs can even talk about that, they must to forget on that not to blame Croats because kill someone in fight for freedom. They didn't want to stop war and leave Croatia with conversation only. World several years try to explain that Croatia is independence democratic country with intention to became part of west world and Europe not Russia supporters. Worse thing is because Slobodan Milosevic courage Serbs who are born on Croatian territory to start fights and send them criminals from Serbian underground and mafia to help them. At the end they stay without homes instead to live in peace in democracy in their homes.
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Re: Malaysian airplane lost over Ukraine
Monday, August 04, 2014 3:21 PM
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Vlada011 What can I think about cruel nation and savages I don't know what go wrong with Serbian genes? Aggression on Croatia was act of madness and classic example of socialistic repression. I can't compare that with Crimea because I don't know history of that region best but I see similarity because both are example of occupation. One occupation was unsuccessful and Croatia won fight from democracy and become excellent place for tourists other is successful and win of Evil because Russia have Nuclear Weapons. I hope Ukraine will find solution for people on Crimea who are loyal to Kiev to find them home in Ukraine and save them from cruelty and life without human rights because I afraid that thing is end and Russia will not leave Crimea. One thing is very strange...30 years Russia and their allies attack USA, NATO and all free world with true democracy because USA and UK behave as world policeman and try to present them as occupier only because they spend money and risk own life in fights against dictators and to stop to someone in some crazy country make something to destroy half world, and than suddenly Russia occupy Crimea, territory of other country for one months, only for self with intention to that territory stay for them. That is classic colonization. NATO never keep some territory for self, but minds of people in East Europe who have good relationship with Russia are always poisoned with worse lies from mouth of people who are in connection with Russian lobby about real reason why USA send Army in Iraq, Afghan,...But that is Russian propaganda, they are ready to do everything what blame other nations because of that and such minds born in their head. Same as officers of Yugoslavian Army who attack Croatia, all of them Serbian nationality talk worse lies about Croats. That's shame for soldiers to talks such lies... and I don't know how they can talk at all about Operation "Storm" when that was action free Croatia from communist occupier and nothing else, who can Serbs can even talk about that, they must to forget on that not to blame Croats because kill someone in fight for freedom. They didn't want to stop war and leave Croatia with conversation only. World several years try to explain that Croatia is independence democratic country with intention to became part of west world and Europe not Russia supporters. Worse thing is because Slobodan Milosevic courage Serbs who are born on Croatian territory to start fights and send them criminals from Serbian underground and mafia to help them. At the end they stay without homes instead to live in peace in democracy in their homes.
I see you are well informed and glad about that because alot of people from Serbia was missinformed by Serbian propaganda when Slobodan Milosevic was on power. I never was nationalistic oriented,few of my best friends are Serbians who was born and live in Croatia. Unfortunatelly majority of people your nationality have totally different point of view than you. Some of them even went to Ukraine and joined Russian separatists.I need to correct you in one thing: nobody from Croatian side wanted Serbians to leave Croatia teritory, we only wanted to live in peace in country that have independance from anyones impact. You are right they(Serbian separatist liders) did not want to stop the war and unfortunatelly Croatian teritory have been liberated by force because of that but after operation storm Croatioan politic leaders asked Serbian civilians to stay in their homes. Unfortunatelly they left because they listened few fools who was in charge of Serbian paramilitary forces. best regards
post edited by bruno_hr - Monday, August 04, 2014 3:34 PM
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Re: Malaysian airplane lost over Ukraine
Monday, August 04, 2014 4:27 PM
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Very small number of people is capable to see situation clear and rise over situation. Usually people think my nations is always all right or my family or similar thing. Even very intelligent people sometimes fall under mass hysteria.
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