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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/02/05 14:39:18 (permalink)
So, I took apart the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper to clean the inside of it today. It was a terrible pain in the butt; almost as horrible as the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper was. It really feels like EVGA does this on purpose to keep people from taking them apart, which makes no sense at all. People need to be able to maintain the products they buy and taking apart a waterblock for cleaning is normal maintenance. When I needed to clean the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper block a second time, I learned from EVGA that they did not sell replacement o-rings for Hydro Copper blocks, so I sold it and replaced it with an EKWB GPU block. Unfortunately, the Kingpin model has only two options available, both difficult to acquire because of limited availability and both overpriced.
 
Getting the o-ring back in place was a complete nightmare. The plexi has a shallow groove for it and it tries to pop out of the groove. The first time I reassembled it and leak-tested it had a leak because the o-ring slipped a tiny bit. Everything turned out fine in the end, but it was far more hassle than it should have been. This makes me angry, and causes me to think it would be best to avoid buying enthusiast grade video cards in the future and stick with less expensive generic reference PCB GPUs with multiple waterblock options and just shunt mod and voltage mod them for better overclocking.
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/13 17:36:21 (permalink)
So is this the end of the 3090 kpe? No posts in over a month!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/13 20:37:57 (permalink)
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So is this the end of the 3090 kpe? No posts in over a month!



Definitely feels like it is the end of the 3090 Hybrid K|NGP|N.  I am still holding on to faint hope for the Hydro Copper....

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/14 02:16:04 (permalink)
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So is this the end of the 3090 kpe? No posts in over a month!



Definitely feels like it is the end of the 3090 Hybrid K|NGP|N.  I am still holding on to faint hope for the Hydro Copper....




What would happen in the situation for people who never got the 3090 kingpin HC notification,  would the whole query just be deleted or would it be transferred to the new product stack?  3090ti kingpin HC?  Or something else?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/14 04:02:24 (permalink)
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What would happen in the situation for people who never got the 3090 kingpin HC notification,  would the whole query just be deleted or would it be transferred to the new product stack?  3090ti kingpin HC?  Or something else?



 
Pure speculation on my part, but I think the queues(s) would be deleted.  We signed up for specific SKUs and when they reach the end of manufacturing of that SKU, then the queue will go away.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/14 07:40:49 (permalink)
Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/14 08:35:08 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/14 08:42:59 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.

lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah



I agree with Zippytek...moving to another SKU...not going to happen.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/16 00:59:48 (permalink)
I would like to see every one who didn't get one get bumped to the front of the next product but your right probably not going to happen
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/16 12:04:05 (permalink)
i'll be the first one to sign up for that service! switch [whichever queue i'm in] to 3090Ti KPE pls 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/16 13:02:21 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/17 22:22:52 (permalink)
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So, I took apart the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper to clean the inside of it today. It was a terrible pain in the butt; almost as horrible as the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper was. It really feels like EVGA does this on purpose to keep people from taking them apart, which makes no sense at all. People need to be able to maintain the products they buy and taking apart a waterblock for cleaning is normal maintenance. When I needed to clean the 2080 Ti FTW3 Hydro Copper block a second time, I learned from EVGA that they did not sell replacement o-rings for Hydro Copper blocks, so I sold it and replaced it with an EKWB GPU block. Unfortunately, the Kingpin model has only two options available, both difficult to acquire because of limited availability and both overpriced.
 
Getting the o-ring back in place was a complete nightmare. The plexi has a shallow groove for it and it tries to pop out of the groove. The first time I reassembled it and leak-tested it had a leak because the o-ring slipped a tiny bit. Everything turned out fine in the end, but it was far more hassle than it should have been. This makes me angry, and causes me to think it would be best to avoid buying enthusiast grade video cards in the future and stick with less expensive generic reference PCB GPUs with multiple waterblock options and just shunt mod and voltage mod them for better overclocking.
 
 




 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/18 06:38:52 (permalink)
jaredbyoungAnd I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 



it is absolutely unreasonable. just being in line for something *whenever* doesn't give any sort of guarantee of service. a wise one once said "ya snooze ya lose" and that very much applies here. good news is everyone will have another chance to queue at exactly the same time for new skus, assuming they keep the queue system in place for 4000 series.
 
my assumption is there won't be much actual demand for the 3090Ti, but the queue will fill and close instantly bc scalpers
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/18 13:44:21 (permalink)
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So is this the end of the 3090 kpe? No posts in over a month!



Definitely feels like it is the end of the 3090 Hybrid K|NGP|N.  I am still holding on to faint hope for the Hydro Copper....


I am several behind you but it is not looking good, been dry a while and when they had the last dump of Hybrids , I was surprised there was 0 HC in that bunch
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/20 23:03:49 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I personally don't think they will but I think they should, specifically for those who were unable to get either Kingpin. Just my unrequested two cents.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/21 04:12:03 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/21 10:30:46 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.



Neither is likely to happen. To the extent it gets a queue at all, it will be a Queue 3.0 or 3.1 queue and not one that operates under the Queue 2.1 rules.  And EVGA will be charged a premium by NVIDIA for those boards…and that will be passed on to the consumer.   

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/21 13:45:56 (permalink)
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Maybe there should be some outreach right now from the people on the list if they want to be grandfathered in to a new 3090 Ti KPE queue.


 
lol so you think people in old queues should just get to casually move to the front of a new queue for a still unannounced sku? nah


lol I didn't express an opinion lol. I was offering a suggestion to someone with a concern. They can bring their concerns to EVGA now to see if there is any sort of remedy. Doing so after a launch will not be effective.
 
And I don't think it is unreasonable for people in a dead 3090 KPE queue to be given some sort consideration when/if 3090 Ti KPE launches. 


I think I would want to see the price of the card before I got moved to it, unless EVGA would want to honor the 3090 Kingpin price to the 3090 Ti Kingpin.



Neither is likely to happen. To the extent it gets a queue at all, it will be a Queue 3.0 or 3.1 queue and not one that operates under the Queue 2.1 rules.  And EVGA will be charged a premium by NVIDIA for those boards…and that will be passed on to the consumer.   


There's no way they would price match, and even I think that's an unreasonable ask. I imagine it'd be like the switch to LHR cards, though, with the option to opt out. Although buying a previous generation Kingpin seems rather pointless.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/21 16:30:23 (permalink)
I don’t see any real point of the 3090Ti Kingpin. It won’t be binned any better than the 3090KPE was. The price will be insane. And it will be outclassed by the 4070.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/22 06:14:39 (permalink)
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I don’t see any real point of the 3090Ti Kingpin. It won’t be binned any better than the 3090KPE was. The price will be insane. And it will be outclassed by the 4070.



that's fine. it's not for you and that's ok. people said the same thing about the 3090 in general, and then most of them scooped them up when they couldn't get a 3080 or 3070 or 3060Ti or 3060
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/25 19:59:56 (permalink)
What's the likelihood on whether a K|NGP|N will be announced as part of any 3090 Ti announcement?  I am thinking (and hoping) "yes".

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/25 20:54:34 (permalink)
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What's the likelihood on whether a K|NGP|N will be announced as part of any 3090 Ti announcement?  I am thinking (and hoping) "yes".


In terms of formally announcing the 3090ti Kingpin's "existence", I am going to say with 60% confidence that yes, it will get announced next week with the rest of the 3090tis.  

However, actual release date is a different question..
From one of the early rumors (before the 3090ti announcement in January), the 3090ti Kingpin was supposed to release "after at least March":
https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-kingpin-to-require-dual-12-pin-power-connectors
 
But that rumor/article was before the 3090ti "delay" that's been going on since the 3090ti was originally announced in January.
So I guess the question is:
Whether or not the two month delay for the regular 3090ti also delayed the 3090ti Kingpin's release?  
Your guess is as good as mine, but I think it's going to be a few weeks if not a month or so before we actually see the Kingpin released either in the E1 or in a queue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 07:42:33 (permalink)
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I'm not planning on buying it, especially since it doesn't have price listed. I'm mostly just curious how long it'll take to get the notification.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 08:07:39 (permalink)
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I'm not planning on buying it, especially since it doesn't have price listed. I'm mostly just curious how long it'll take to get the notification.



I started putting together a self-reported list like I did for the 3090 K|NGP|Ns but realized with Queue 3.0 rules, tracking it accurately is a fool's errand. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 08:20:05 (permalink)
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I'm not planning on buying it, especially since it doesn't have price listed. I'm mostly just curious how long it'll take to get the notification.



I started putting together a self-reported list like I did for the 3090 K|NGP|Ns but realized with Queue 3.0 rules, tracking it accurately is a fool's errand. 




with the gpu queues being more hectic, i can see this. for the z690 boards, the queue minders were adding a column for evga score. which of course not everyone self reports, but it makes it easier to guess who floats upward if you just assume nobody is depri'd yet (which is still possible with 3050/12GB 3080 I guess, but still)
 
maybe we'll see some KPE notis around noon/1pm eastern? fingers crossed
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 08:37:49 (permalink)
I don’t think we will see waterlogged 3090 Ti invites for weeks if not months. We don’t even have prices yet.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 09:27:42 (permalink)
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I'm not planning on buying it, especially since it doesn't have price listed. I'm mostly just curious how long it'll take to get the notification.



I started putting together a self-reported list like I did for the 3090 K|NGP|Ns but realized with Queue 3.0 rules, tracking it accurately is a fool's errand. 




True, it still would be nice to have a list just to generally see the general direction but it definitely won't be as accurate as your previous que lists. 
 
I signed up for the 3090Ti Kingpin auto-notify:
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 09:33:54 (permalink)
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I'm not planning on buying it, especially since it doesn't have price listed. I'm mostly just curious how long it'll take to get the notification.



I started putting together a self-reported list like I did for the 3090 K|NGP|Ns but realized with Queue 3.0 rules, tracking it accurately is a fool's errand. 

True, it still would be nice to have a list just to generally see the general direction but it definitely won't be as accurate as your previous que lists. 
 
I signed up for the 3090Ti Kingpin auto-notify:
 
24G-P5-4998-KR 3/29/2022 7:33:30 AM PT



I'll keep adding names and timestamps that I come across....
 
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rzelek506
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 10:01:09 (permalink)
Here's to hoping EVGA or someone will eventually make a 3090ti Kingpin HC waterblock..
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2022/03/29 10:06:26 (permalink)
Go ahead and add mine too: - 
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