psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
My question is here because of queue v3 being entirely for 3000 series cards so far. If this topic has been covered, please forgive me as I did not see anything when I searched. This is not a complaint, I'm just wondering what the rationale is. Its not a very heavy discount, so presumably EVGA is still making a profit. Often the items are still hundreds of dollars. Perhaps some items do count, but I registered 4 items from b-stock last month (2 PSUs and 2 GPUs), and my score did not appear to increase.
post edited by psujorge - 2022/03/04 10:02:59
|
firerain
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 288
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2019/01/10 13:43:30
- Location: NY
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 09:59:00
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:16:58
I think the short answer is that they want to encourage new purchases not b stock.
Pc0 Legion pre built / 3090Fe / 10900k Pc1 8700k /2x EVGA 3080 TI / EVGA Z375 micro Pc2 EVGA x99 micro / E5 2678 v3 / 3080 / EVGA 3060, EVGA 1660 ti Pc3 EVGA x99 micro / E5 2620 v3 / EVGA 3080, 1650 Pc4 HP pre built AMD R5 3500 / 2060 ko
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 10:04:47
(permalink)
firerain
I think the short answer is that they want to encourage new purchases not b stock.
I agree thats likely the long and short of the answer, but it seems like something that would have minimal/no impact to the sales of new cards. Perhaps the data says otherwise!
|
enewt
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 11883
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2020/09/21 18:01:11
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 2
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 10:16:49
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:16:53
psujorge
firerain
I think the short answer is that they want to encourage new purchases not b stock.
I agree thats likely the long and short of the answer, but it seems like something that would have minimal/no impact to the sales of new cards. Perhaps the data says otherwise!
I think there are some folks that don't buy b-stock...just as a rule, they want the "new" stuff. To include b-stock sales may make the "new-only" cohort feel even more like it is a stacked deck against them (whether first time purchaser or otherwise).
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 11:09:10
(permalink)
enewt
psujorge
firerain
I think the short answer is that they want to encourage new purchases not b stock.
I agree thats likely the long and short of the answer, but it seems like something that would have minimal/no impact to the sales of new cards. Perhaps the data says otherwise!
I think there are some folks that don't buy b-stock...just as a rule, they want the "new" stuff. To include b-stock sales may make the "new-only" cohort feel even more like it is a stacked deck against them (whether first time purchaser or otherwise).
I see. Thanks for the reply. I actually like to buy b-stock because it sort of feels like recycling! 
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 11:09:52
(permalink)
The cards alone aren't worth the price when you factor in that you lose 2 years of warranty and no chance to step up just for a few dollars off the new price.
post edited by Donradeon - 2022/03/04 11:11:00
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 11:12:00
(permalink)
Donradeon
The cards alone aren't worth the price when you lose 2 years of warranty for a few dollars off the price. No thanks.
While you may have a valid point, its a personal decision and the discussion isn't about the value of b-stock. Additionally, GPUs are not the only thing sold via b-stock, nor the only thing worth EVGA points from my understanding.
post edited by psujorge - 2022/03/04 12:06:24
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 11:59:38
(permalink)
psujorge
Donradeon
The cards alone aren't worth the price when you lose 2 years of warranty for a few dollars off the price. No thanks.
While you may have a valid point, its a personal decision and the discussion isn't about the value of b-stock. Additionally, GPUs are not the only think sold via b-stock, nor the only thing worth EVGA points from my understanding.
My point is the b stock is not really a good deal when you factor in your main point for starting this thread (not contributing to EVGA score) and my points which are the loss of warranty (applies to all purchases) and step-up (applies to GPUs).
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:06:01
(permalink)
Donradeon
psujorge
Donradeon
The cards alone aren't worth the price when you lose 2 years of warranty for a few dollars off the price. No thanks.
While you may have a valid point, its a personal decision and the discussion isn't about the value of b-stock. Additionally, GPUs are not the only think sold via b-stock, nor the only thing worth EVGA points from my understanding.
My point is the b stock is not really a good deal when you factor in your main point for starting this thread (not contributing to EVGA score) and my points which are the loss of warranty (applies to all purchases) and step-up (applies to GPUs).
So the rationale to you is because its not a good deal, they chose not to count it as part for EVGA score?
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24079
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:15:45
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:16:44
I would assume, as that is all I can do, that BStock is considered used, certified refurbished but still used, and used products do not warrant points.
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:18:29
(permalink)
psujorge
Donradeon
psujorge
Donradeon
The cards alone aren't worth the price when you lose 2 years of warranty for a few dollars off the price. No thanks.
While you may have a valid point, its a personal decision and the discussion isn't about the value of b-stock. Additionally, GPUs are not the only think sold via b-stock, nor the only thing worth EVGA points from my understanding.
My point is the b stock is not really a good deal when you factor in your main point for starting this thread (not contributing to EVGA score) and my points which are the loss of warranty (applies to all purchases) and step-up (applies to GPUs).
So the rationale to you is because its not a good deal, they chose not to count it as part for EVGA score?
Here's the rationale: You're not buying full price, brand new items with full warranties - so you must not value them. Therefore you don't get points towards helping you buy new items that you don't buy anyways.
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:20:00
(permalink)
Donradeon
psujorge
So the rationale to you is because its not a good deal, they chose not to count it as part for EVGA score?
Here's the rationale: You're not buying full price, brand new items with full warranties - so you must not value them. Therefore you don't get points towards helping you buy new items that you don't buy anyways.
Thanks for the direct, albeit abrasive, answer. Although rife with assumptions.
post edited by psujorge - 2022/03/04 12:21:10
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24079
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:37:08
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:38:23
Donradeon
Here's the rationale: You're not buying full price, brand new items with full warranties - so you must not value them. Therefore you don't get points towards helping you buy new items that you don't buy anyways.
Your post/rationale is full of ignorance. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge and information. The word "ignorant" is an adjective that describes a person in the state of being unaware, or even cognitive dissonance and other cognitive relation, and can describe individuals who are unaware of important information or facts.So you are saying because someone can purchase a used GPU for close to MSRP in a market where it is difficult to purchase a new GPU, and that used product doesn’t have a full warranty, they must not value that item. So you are saying because someone can purchase a used Car for close to MSRP in a market where it is difficult to purchase a new Car, and that used product doesn’t have a full warranty, they must not value that item. What kind of market do you think the world has right now? You have absolutely no clue what someone else’s situation is, all you know is that they asked a very simple question, and you make a comment like that, that’s not cool.
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:38:28
(permalink)
psujorge
Donradeon
psujorge
So the rationale to you is because its not a good deal, they chose not to count it as part for EVGA score?
Here's the rationale: You're not buying full price, brand new items with full warranties - so you must not value them. Therefore you don't get points towards helping you buy new items that you don't buy anyways.
Thanks for the direct, albeit abrasive, answer. Although rife with assumptions.
Businesses can only make assumptions about customers based on their spending habits. What does someone buying a used item and giving up warranty just to save a few dollars say about them? No one is pushing surveys over at EVGA asking their b-stock customer base what they value in a purchase. And as a for-profit company - why should they when they can essentially print money with brand new, full-priced cards? When you buy discounted, used items, you don't get the perks of new ones. That's with most products.
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:43:49
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:54:26
the_Scarlet_one
Your post/rationale is full of ignorance.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge and information. The word "ignorant" is an adjective that describes a person in the state of being unaware, or even cognitive dissonance and other cognitive relation, and can describe individuals who are unaware of important information or facts.
So you are saying because someone can purchase a used GPU for close to MSRP in a market where it is difficult to purchase a new GPU, and that used product doesn’t have a full warranty, they must not value that item.
So you are saying because someone can purchase a used Car for close to MSRP in a market where it is difficult to purchase a new Car, and that used product doesn’t have a full warranty, they must not value that item.
What kind of market do you think the world has right now? You have absolutely no clue what someone else’s situation is, all you know is that they asked a very simple question, and you make a comment like that, that’s not cool.
I 100% agree with you that my post is ignorant because I do not work for EVGA and so I have no clue what the rationale is behind the lack of EVGA points for buying b-stock. The rationale I used is one of the corporate greed mentality most for-profit businesses have. For the record, that is not MY personal feeling about people who buy b-stock or used products in general.
|
psujorge
New Member
- Total Posts : 52
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/03/27 18:43:48
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:48:30
(permalink)
Donradeon
psujorge
Donradeon
psujorge
So the rationale to you is because its not a good deal, they chose not to count it as part for EVGA score?
Here's the rationale: You're not buying full price, brand new items with full warranties - so you must not value them. Therefore you don't get points towards helping you buy new items that you don't buy anyways.
Thanks for the direct, albeit abrasive, answer. Although rife with assumptions.
Businesses can only make assumptions about customers based on their spending habits. What does someone buying a used item and giving up warranty just to save a few dollars say about them?
It says there aren't enough new cards available more than anything. Thanks for the clarity on your meaning. After checking, I've bought 23 new products from EVGA (not sold by EVGA necessarily) in the past year, and 6 used. It's anecdotal, so maybe I am the exception.
post edited by psujorge - 2022/03/04 12:55:29
|
Donradeon
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 396
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/10/09 09:05:13
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Is there a rationale behind b-stock purchases not having any value in terms of EVGA sc
2022/03/04 12:56:00
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby psujorge 2022/03/04 12:57:34
psujorge
It says there aren't enough new cards available more than anything.
There's plenty of new cards. You just have to pony up the extra cash for a bundle. More money in everyone's pocket but yours in the process, which businesses like! I didn't mean to offend you. I was not stating my own thoughts about buying b-stock, but rather trying to see the corporate side of why they might not give you EVGA points for those purchases. Business are always looking at dollars and cents - you and I are just numbers to them. I don't think that EVGA is altruistic, they exist to make money just like the rest. *Shrug*
|