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2019/12/09 14:41:17 (permalink)
It's basically what we expected, I was last told by my friend in the know that CPU's won't launch until summer, but Intel may paper launch them in April.
 
https://wccftech.com/intel-z490-motherboards-and-comet-lake-desktop-cpu-april-2020/
According to a report, Intel's next-generation Z490 chipset powered motherboards and 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs are expected to arrive in April 2020. The news comes from HKPEC who has received details from industry insiders and is expecting the new chipset to bring a major update.

Intel Z490 Motherboards Launching Alongside 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs in April 2020, Rumor Alleges

As a part of the 400-series chipset family, the Z490 chipset would be featured on the high-end board designs. There would also be other chipsets such as W480 (workstation), B460 (business) and H410 (entry-level). Focusing solely on the Z490 chipset, it is expected to be the main launch that would accompany Intel's 10th Gen processors codenamed, Comet Lake-S. A few Z490 series boards from various Intel partners got leaked out a few days ago so its no surprise we are getting this information now.
 
 

 

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 14:48:30 (permalink)
    My X570 does PCIe 4.0 so this is not of any value to AMD users.
    PCIe 4.0 is slow to be supported but over time faster SSD products will surface.
     
     


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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 14:49:40 (permalink)
    🤔 ill wait for pci 5 support

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 14:53:53 (permalink)
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    My X570 does PCIe 4.0 so this is not of any value to AMD users.
    PCIe 4.0 is slow to be supported but over time faster SSD products will surface.
     
     




    Correct Z490 will be just PCI-E 3.0, intel will probably wait until DDR5 to go gen 4. Z490 is will be for Comet Lake and Rocket Lake, Comet lake is quite boring, just another skylake refresh, Rocket lake will still be 14nm ++++ but will be much more interesting :-)
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 14:57:40 (permalink)
    No PCIe 4,0??? (shake my head)
    Bad enough its 14nm still
     
    but 5.1GHZ Boost from 3.0GHZ isn't all that bad - under watercooling that would be a better buy than a 9900k CPU
     
     
     
     

     
       


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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 15:29:55 (permalink)
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    🤔 ill wait for pci 5 support

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    Ill wait for PCIe 6.0 support.  Itll make the switch to PAM-4 encoding which will be the next switch to improved encoding since PCIe 3.0 which resulted in small fps gains.  The switch from PCIe 4.0 to 5.0 will only increase bandwidth which will probably never have any performance impact on GPUs for the foreseeable future, unless perhaps NVLink is somehow implemented on PCIe 5.0 and not 4.0, if at all for either of those two.

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 17:17:14 (permalink)
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    🤔 ill wait for pci 5 support

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    Ill wait for PCIe 6.0 support.  Itll make the switch to PAM-4 encoding which will be the next switch to improved encoding since PCIe 3.0 which resulted in small fps gains.  The switch from PCIe 4.0 to 5.0 will only increase bandwidth which will probably never have any performance impact on GPUs for the foreseeable future, unless perhaps NVLink is somehow implemented on PCIe 5.0 and not 4.0, if at all for either of those two.



     
    no seriously do it!
     
    Z490 a new name with the same old tech. Let me find my x58 and stamp a lake x motherboard compatible label to it and sell it to you for $700.  I should have a bowl of popcorn every time i see an Intel headline, it is worth the entertainment.

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/09 19:49:13 (permalink)
    Man.... looks like I am glad I saved for a new LG 38950 which I love..... so much.  So much.

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 07:33:07 (permalink)
    I'm hoping it has more overclock ability, maybe 5.4GHz... if this platform has a 10 core processor that can do at least 5GHz on all cores, it's going to be the best gaming processor until 2021, when we should be getting the new 10nm stuff with significant IPC gains. I really hope TSMC can get some significant gains on their 5nm stuff, so AMD has something decent to compete with Intel's 10nm processors. 

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 07:37:10 (permalink)
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    I'm hoping it has more overclock ability, maybe 5.4GHz... if this platform has a 10 core processor that can do at least 5GHz on all cores, it's going to be the best gaming processor until 2021, when we should be getting the new 10nm stuff with significant IPC gains. I really hope TSMC can get some significant gains on their 5nm stuff, so AMD has something decent to compete with Intel's 10nm processors. 


    Ryzen 4000 won't clock much higher but will have significant IPC and memory latency gains. Intel will have a fighting chance with Rocket Lake on the gaming side but Rocket Lake will only go to 8 cores but with an decent IPC increase. 
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 07:48:05 (permalink)
    You'd think the one thing Intel would learn from AMD smacking them in the sack would be to stop with the variable socket crap with every new board generation; but here we are.


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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 08:55:51 (permalink)
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    You'd think the one thing Intel would learn from AMD smacking them in the sack would be to stop with the variable socket crap with every new board generation; but here we are.

    All Intel is.doing is forcing us the consumer to accept whatever they release...again keyword forcing, just like Nvidia....little by little consumers will noticed what many others are talking about.
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 09:01:12 (permalink)
    Backwards compatibility is a double edged sword. While it increases the lifespan of the product, it decreases the stability or support of new features. It would be kind of goofy to get a processor with 40 PCI-E lanes but be limited by the chipset, so you can only use 16. Never running into incompatibility issues that would require a lot of technical troubleshooting is kind of a nice thing... 

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 09:28:44 (permalink)
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    Backwards compatibility is a double edged sword. While it increases the lifespan of the product, it decreases the stability or support of new features. It would be kind of goofy to get a processor with 40 PCI-E lanes but be limited by the chipset, so you can only use 16. Never running into incompatibility issues that would require a lot of technical troubleshooting is kind of a nice thing... 

    Having the foresight to splurge an extra $10 on the chipset to support future technologies which have already been technically determined and only wait on being implemented, would solve that. The current CPU doesn't need to support future technologies, but why not design the chipset to be compatible with future technologies? Designing a motherboard and socket for only 16 PCI-E lanes is extremely short-sighted. It's not that Intel isn't able to avoid new chipsets every year, they are simply unwilling. In some cases it is unavoidable. But in most, it is a purposely chosen stiff-arm maneuver.
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 09:55:13 (permalink)
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    Backwards compatibility is a double edged sword. While it increases the lifespan of the product, it decreases the stability or support of new features. It would be kind of goofy to get a processor with 40 PCI-E lanes but be limited by the chipset, so you can only use 16. Never running into incompatibility issues that would require a lot of technical troubleshooting is kind of a nice thing... 

    Having the foresight to splurge an extra $10 on the chipset to support future technologies which have already been technically determined and only wait on being implemented, would solve that. The current CPU doesn't need to support future technologies, but why not design the chipset to be compatible with future technologies? Designing a motherboard and socket for only 16 PCI-E lanes is extremely short-sighted. It's not that Intel isn't able to avoid new chipsets every year, they are simply unwilling. In some cases it is unavoidable. But in most, it is a purposely chosen stiff-arm maneuver.



    They definitely have foresight into their own plans and expected launch dates of products they will be releasing... But they also depend on an operating system they don't own and having a dormant feature in place for future models isn't going to be easy to explain to shareholders that they are investing ahead to ensure the sales of future products. The majority of public owned companies see that as a risk and won't put support behind it, especially when the alternative path is less risky. Too many variables where the company can lose money for adding a feature before it's in use and fully vetted. For instance, X470 board's technically support PCI-E 4.0, but not officially and has been roadblocked by AMD so it's no longer an available option to people utilizing the latest BIOS. Having access to those features ahead of time can also open them up to all kinds of security flaws or loopholes they maybe didn't think of while trying to fully develop the new feature before it's actual release to the public.
     
    You also have things like huge contracts with 3rd parties that must be fulfilled in order to meet the demand of the products. If they have to switch companies because they can't keep up with manufacturing, they are stuck with the original company because of the original investment to add a feature before it was ready to be implemented or they will have to take a loss.

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/10 12:06:10 (permalink)
    Well said Rain.
     
    Didn't they say they were focusing more on IPC in the coming years or am I wishful thinking here?  I would love to see some IPC gains finally.  Not these slow trickle improvements we've been seeing for a while.

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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 00:43:05 (permalink)
    Aye, breaking compatibility was very much a deliberate choice on Intel's part. No new tech, no new RAM or PCIe 4.0 support, nothing to justify the change. Don't forget Intel broke compatibility with Coffee Lake too, again over an arbitrary reason to sell more 300 series chipset boards. 
     
    Intel can't even claim future proofing with LGA1200 because DDR5 will force a new socket whenever Intel does get around to introducing it. So this new socket will last two years, tops. 


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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 07:54:16 (permalink)
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    Aye, breaking compatibility was very much a deliberate choice on Intel's part. No new tech, no new RAM or PCIe 4.0 support, nothing to justify the change. Don't forget Intel broke compatibility with Coffee Lake too, again over an arbitrary reason to sell more 300 series chipset boards. 
     
    Intel can't even claim future proofing with LGA1200 because DDR5 will force a new socket whenever Intel does get around to introducing it. So this new socket will last two years, tops. 




    Correct, unlike AMD(except for X570) Intel also makes the motherboard chipsets, so when they force a motherboard change they are not only selling you a new CPU but also a new Chipset they sold the motherboard vendor. I am sure the motherboard vendor's don't mind selling more motherboards that are almost identical to the last generation. For example from Z170 all the way to Z390 the actual motherboard R&D is low due to much of the board is the same, just new bells and whistles. 
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 08:05:40 (permalink)
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    I am sure the motherboard vendor's don't mind selling more motherboards that are almost identical to the last generation. For example from Z170 all the way to Z390 the actual motherboard R&D is low due to much of the board is the same, just new bells and whistles. 




    Exactly. This does nothing besides hurt the consumer but pads profits for vendors.


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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 11:21:08 (permalink)
    I'd just like to stop by to personally thank Intel for not obsoleting my 9900K / Z390.  I mean the socket will be phased out but they aren't introducing any significant advances.
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 11:47:44 (permalink)
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    Aye, breaking compatibility was very much a deliberate choice on Intel's part. No new tech, no new RAM or PCIe 4.0 support, nothing to justify the change. Don't forget Intel broke compatibility with Coffee Lake too, again over an arbitrary reason to sell more 300 series chipset boards. 
     
    Intel can't even claim future proofing with LGA1200 because DDR5 will force a new socket whenever Intel does get around to introducing it. So this new socket will last two years, tops. 

    Oh, no, you're wrong. This is a substantial change and backwards compatibility would have been dangerous. It's not a deliberate intent to sell more chipsets. [/sarcasm]
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 12:39:26 (permalink)
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    I'd just like to stop by to personally thank Intel for not obsoleting my 9900K / Z390.  I mean the socket will be phased out but they aren't introducing any significant advances.




    I suppose that is one way to look at the lack of innovation. 
     

     
     
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 12:59:03 (permalink)
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    I'd just like to stop by to personally thank Intel for not obsoleting my 9900K / Z390.  I mean the socket will be phased out but they aren't introducing any significant advances.




    I suppose that is one way to look at the lack of innovation. 
     

     
     




    Well pc stuff is pretty expensive.  Especially gpu's.  It's nice to not see them plummeting in value like 2nd gen ryzen or ram or ssd's.
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/12 16:03:45 (permalink)
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    Well pc stuff is pretty expensive.  Especially gpu's.  It's nice to not see them plummeting in value like 2nd gen ryzen or ram or ssd's.


    Hey I'm totally with ya, Seriously.
     
    I feel the same way about phones the last few years. The lack of innovation and change means you can use your old phone longer without losing out on much. I have many times said "Oh good the new one isn't much better so I don't have to upgrade"
     
    That's what I call "Selfish justification for not buying the latest and greatest"
     
     
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    Re: Intel Z490 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake-S CPUs Expected To Launch in April 202 2019/12/13 02:00:34 (permalink)
    Well, to counterbalance my other post there is one positive thing about this. It will only spur more AMD converts. 


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