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2020/07/27 00:22:54 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/270341/intel-rocket-lake-cpus-will-bring-up-to-10-ipc-improvement-and-5-ghz-clocks
 
Intel is struggling with its node development and it looks like next-generation consumer systems are going to be stuck on 14 nm for a bit more. Preparing for that, Intel will finally break free from Sky Lake-based architectures and launch something new. The replacement for the current Comet Lake generation is set to be called Rocket Lake and today we have obtained some more information about it. Thanks to popular hardware leaker rogame (_rogame), we know a few stuff about Rocket Lake. Starting off, it is known that Rocket Lake features the backport of 10 nm Willow Cove core, called Cypress Cove. That Cypress Cove is supposed to bring only 10% IPC improvements, according to the latest rumors.

With 10% IPC improvement the company will at least offer some more competitive product than it currently does, however, that should be much slower than 10 nm Tiger Lake processors which feature the original Willow Cove design. It shows that backporting of the design doesn't just bring loses of the node benefits like smaller design and less heat, but rather means that only a fraction of the performance can be extracted. Another point that rogame made is that Rocket Lake will run up to 5 GHz in boost, and it will run hot, which is expected.
 
Intel still stuck on 14nm and meaning much more heat. 
 


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 02:04:06 (permalink)
    Im taking this info with a hefty shovel of salt considering he is essentially saying "plus or minus 10% IPC over Skylake."  Sounds like an idiot to me for either not effectively conveying information, or thinking it will possibly be 10% lower IPC than Skylake.  I believe I heard something more reliable that stated 10 to 20% over Skylake anyways.

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 04:32:28 (permalink)
    Hopefully it's 10% and good for Intel. These delays on hitting 7nm are starting to get bad for Intel who clearly didn't push the envelope for a long time that it's taking them this long to roll it out.

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 04:50:13 (permalink)
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 05:11:00 (permalink)
    boylerya
    he is essentially saying "plus or minus 10% IPC over Skylake." 

    He said 10% +-
    Not +- 10%

    "Plus or minus 10%" is what you said. What he said is "10%, plus or minus".

    "10%, plus or minus' means 'approximately 10%' or '10%, give or take'. It's likened to ~10%.

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 06:21:01 (permalink)
    Intel is moving future production to TSMC according to news today
    both 6 and 3 nm Fabbing
     


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 07:44:55 (permalink)
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    Intel is moving future production to TSMC according to news today
    both 6 and 3 nm Fabbing
     

    Nothing like spending Billions upon Billions on your own Fab's just to pay someone else to make it on theirs. $$$$OUCH
     
    If true margins on future products are going to be slim. 

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 08:29:28 (permalink)
    Well I feel retarded, I may have believed in the previous claim that the version of the Cove architecture in Rocket Lake was upwards of 25% higher IPC than Skylake, putting it around 7% ahead of Zen 3.

    If 10% is remotely more likely, then Zen 3 will pull ahead. Again, in the end, Intel will retain frequency crown, but that's it.

    Speculation is a dumb game to figure this out before official specs, by then it's boring and I tend to look on to the next set of rumors. It's like I have zero interest in something once it appears.
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 08:39:19 (permalink)
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    Well I feel retarded, I may have believed in the previous claim that the version of the Cove architecture in Rocket Lake was upwards of 25% higher IPC than Skylake, putting it around 7% ahead of Zen 3.

    If 10% is remotely more likely, then Zen 3 will pull ahead.

    Speculation is a dumb game to figure this out before official specs, by then it's boring and I tend to look on to the next set of rumors. It's like I have zero interest in something once it appears.

    The speculation was willow cove being ported to 14nm would provide the same IPC improvements than if it was at 10nm, obviously a lot of performance was left on the table when porting back to the old node. 
     
    Rocket Lake should still be competitive in gaming....I hope..

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/27 14:47:53 (permalink)
    Hype or disappointment which buy should i cboose🤔

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/28 00:18:57 (permalink)
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    he is essentially saying "plus or minus 10% IPC over Skylake." 

    He said 10% +-
    Not +- 10%

    "Plus or minus 10%" is what you said. What he said is "10%, plus or minus".

    "10%, plus or minus' means 'approximately 10%' or '10%, give or take'. It's likened to ~10%.

    Then why did he use the word "around" unless he is being a redundant idiot that no one should listen to?
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/28 09:28:21 (permalink)
    Man, Intel is experiencing a multi-year nightmare right now. The only thing they can do to seem competitive is to compare to themselves, and that not even panning out. 10% IPC improvement and fab issues that won't go away anytime soon. I have to wonder how exclusive manufacturers like EVGA are weathering this in the mobo sector. All the warning signs are there that they'll soon need to be making Zen architecture products to maintain any sense of competition in their market segment.
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/28 11:54:14 (permalink)
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    Man, Intel is experiencing a multi-year nightmare right now. The only thing they can do to seem competitive is to compare to themselves, and that not even panning out. 10% IPC improvement and fab issues that won't go away anytime soon. I have to wonder how exclusive manufacturers like EVGA are weathering this in the mobo sector. All the warning signs are there that they'll soon need to be making Zen architecture products to maintain any sense of competition in their market segment.


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/28 15:26:04 (permalink)
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    Man, Intel is experiencing a multi-year nightmare right now. The only thing they can do to seem competitive is to compare to themselves, and that not even panning out. 10% IPC improvement and fab issues that won't go away anytime soon. I have to wonder how exclusive manufacturers like EVGA are weathering this in the mobo sector. All the warning signs are there that they'll soon need to be making Zen architecture products to maintain any sense of competition in their market segment.

    See EVGA going bust before making any intellectual decisions to be honest.

    I hope not - that would be a tragedy.
     


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/28 17:47:43 (permalink)
    Latest news: "EVGA AMD MOBO'S" in coming!

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 01:47:56 (permalink)
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    Latest news: "EVGA AMD MOBO'S" in coming!

    One can only hope. I'm definitely all for it happening (finally).
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 05:06:35 (permalink)
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    Latest news: "EVGA AMD MOBO'S" in coming!

    One can only hope. I'm definitely all for it happening (finally).

    Depends on what sort of contract EVGA has with Intel. Perhaps EVGA want to, but cannot.
     


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 08:18:09 (permalink)
    With the current situations with Intel, wouldn't EVGA have the advantage say in contract negotiations?

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 08:38:31 (permalink)
    On the bright side at least we have new logo's coming...... right 
     

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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 09:16:29 (permalink)
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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/29 19:33:54 (permalink)
    A 10% boost in the most cherrypicked benchmark they could find. Also, the 10th gen already went past 5Ghz clocks, don't think Intel can do it again and advertise it as a new thing. 


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    Re: Intel Rocket Lake CPUs Will Bring up to 10% IPC Improvement and 5 GHz Clocks 2020/07/30 19:06:12 (permalink)
    I still say Rocket Lake comes though as 10nm, Q4 2021. Completely ridiculous for them to release a new consumer desktop architecture on an existing socket and process so soon in early 2021.
     
    Ice Lake SP is almost here.
     
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