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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 15:05:33
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Sorry to revive this thread.
My hybrid kit for the ti idles at 33c and on load 100% goes upto 65c (HZD, Outriders to name a few). Intaking air through the radiator using Arctic P12 in push pull from the side of the Lian Li PC011 dynamic case. 3 fans at the bottom air intake. CPU AIO 360mm at the top exhausting. 22c on idle and 50-55c on load seems just too good; that too on a 3090. Now I am curious to understand if any setting in Nvidia Cpl is the reason for such a huge difference in temps ? :|
You have to be a 220mhz to get the idle in the low 20's. 33C sounds like a 1800mhz idle. Nvidia driver setting or multi monitor issue, google it.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
P12's are OK but not super strong. Having them intake they are going against significant positive pressure from the bottom fans. I'd set them as exhaust and turn up the bottom fans or tie them to GPU temp with "Fan Control" software. You can also add the stock fans back in for push pull.
Your mount is probably OK.
I am at 210MHz on idle. I am already on a push pull with 4 Arctic P12s
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 15:18:25
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Lay your computer on its side and unmount radiator and prop it up high so the lines straight up. then that the card is low and fire it up, that might get you to clear the bubble in pump, I think you have some air trapped. let it run an see of the noise goes away, I had to do this with my KPE that was noisy but it finally cleared the air doing this, then once clear you can put your rad where you had it and it should be fine. It might work? If it does not then RMA it for a pump/
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 16:53:47
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Lay your computer on its side and unmount radiator and prop it up high so the lines straight up. then that the card is low and fire it up, that might get you to clear the bubble in pump, I think you have some air trapped. let it run an see of the noise goes away, I had to do this with my KPE that was noisy but it finally cleared the air doing this, then once clear you can put your rad where you had it and it should be fine. It might work? If it does not then RMA it for a pump/
To whom is this reply intended for ? I do not have any noise from the pump.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 17:28:54
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Close your Case. You still hear it?
Total Silence does not exist.
66 C is allright. Still depends on airflow and ambient temps.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 17:30:12
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Lay your computer on its side and unmount radiator and prop it up high so the lines straight up. then that the card is low and fire it up, that might get you to clear the bubble in pump, I think you have some air trapped. let it run an see of the noise goes away, I had to do this with my KPE that was noisy but it finally cleared the air doing this, then once clear you can put your rad where you had it and it should be fine. It might work? If it does not then RMA it for a pump/
To whom is this reply intended for ? I do not have any noise from the pump.
it was to the OP, i did not see you revived this post, my bad. what is your issue, maybe I can help with that just threw this one up , under 50C in OD 11 with glass installed NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-9900K Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B51) (3dmark.com)
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 17:45:18
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p 12s imho are most efficient at 80 %
I found no more cooling at 100 on my Rad, make sure its on your dust filters
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 17:58:18
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I can’t see how people get 50C on full load
I'm literally the only one who has ever done that (49C at 445w, sustained) as far as I know. It took 3400rpm 120x38mm push pull server fans top exhaust, sealed w/spacer, plus 7 other intaking case fans, back of case sealed off. Very loud and stiff breeze coming out the top.
Wait a minute...thats the 3080 (as per your screenshot) not the Ti.
Yep. I have a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid, currently a 3080 Ti Ultra (soon to go to it's forever home) and 3090 FTW3 plus Hybrid kit on the way. Regardless, the 3080 FTW3 with 450w bios shares with the 3080 Ti FTW3 the same power limit, PCB, cooler and GA102 chip package, so you can take them as generally equivalent when discussing power vs. cooling.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 18:03:16
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I like undervolting as it also gives you more room to overclock.
My goal are 20.000 points in Timespy. But I don’t know if I can achieve it.
Yeah you can overclock with a lower power limit, it gives generally the same result. Then the framerate cap (either with low lag vsync or above refresh) decreases lower draw at low load. However the chip is allowed to chose it's own voltage, as intended by design. If you want an overall 20K score in Timespy, you need full power and good cooling.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 18:04:48
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Sorry to revive this thread.
My hybrid kit for the ti idles at 33c and on load 100% goes upto 65c (HZD, Outriders to name a few). Intaking air through the radiator using Arctic P12 in push pull from the side of the Lian Li PC011 dynamic case. 3 fans at the bottom air intake. CPU AIO 360mm at the top exhausting. 22c on idle and 50-55c on load seems just too good; that too on a 3090. Now I am curious to understand if any setting in Nvidia Cpl is the reason for such a huge difference in temps ? :|
You have to be a 220mhz to get the idle in the low 20's. 33C sounds like a 1800mhz idle. Nvidia driver setting or multi monitor issue, google it.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
P12's are OK but not super strong. Having them intake they are going against significant positive pressure from the bottom fans. I'd set them as exhaust and turn up the bottom fans or tie them to GPU temp with "Fan Control" software. You can also add the stock fans back in for push pull.
Your mount is probably OK.
I am at 210MHz on idle.
I am already on a push pull with 4 Arctic P12s
You probably have a bad mount.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 18:38:38
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 19:08:31
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
Well im ok with the idle temps of 29c. I idle at 32-33c. But the concern is at load. Folks reporting 20c lower temps compared to mine is just mind boggling.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 19:48:56
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
Well im ok with the idle temps of 29c. I idle at 32-33c. But the concern is at load. Folks reporting 20c lower temps compared to mine is just mind boggling.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 21:33:23
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
Well im ok with the idle temps of 29c. I idle at 32-33c. But the concern is at load. Folks reporting 20c lower temps compared to mine is just mind boggling.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
Ambient temps - 25c Average Power - No idea (from HwInfo ?) Fan Speeds - Custom Curve on Case fans and GPU Radiator based on GPU temps as follows : 3 Bottom Intakes - 40c - 960 rpm (20%); 50c - 1375 rpm (50%); 70c - 1607 rpm (70%); 90c and above - 1900 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV] GPU Radiator (Push Pull 4 Arctic P12s) - 20c - 916 rpm (40%); 30c - 1259 rpm (60%); 40c - 1600 rpm (85%); 60c and above - 1758 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV] GPU Fan on the Shroud of the hybrid kit - 0 rpm (0%) until 40c, 50% at 50c, 70% at 60c, 100% at 90c. (in Precision X1) Hope this helps !
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/21 22:54:13
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
Well im ok with the idle temps of 29c. I idle at 32-33c. But the concern is at load. Folks reporting 20c lower temps compared to mine is just mind boggling.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
Ambient temps - 25c
Average Power - No idea (from HwInfo ?)
Fan Speeds - Custom Curve on Case fans and GPU Radiator based on GPU temps as follows :
3 Bottom Intakes - 40c - 960 rpm (20%); 50c - 1375 rpm (50%); 70c - 1607 rpm (70%); 90c and above - 1900 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV]
GPU Radiator (Push Pull 4 Arctic P12s) - 20c - 916 rpm (40%); 30c - 1259 rpm (60%); 40c - 1600 rpm (85%); 60c and above - 1758 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV]
GPU Fan on the Shroud of the hybrid kit - 0 rpm (0%) until 40c, 50% at 50c, 70% at 60c, 100% at 90c. (in Precision X1)
Hope this helps !
You bet, check you power level in HWiNFO by starting the load, then resetting logging, then run the load/game for about 10-15 minutes and take the average power. Shroud fan is fine. I'd get the rad fans to 100% by 50C and the bottom fans to 80% by 50C. Or you can try locking at a fixed speed per the advice here: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3452558 Or you can set a curve with two plateaus, an idle speed below about 35-40C where it's quiet, then a constant speed above that temp where it stays when under load. If you were at 20C ambient, you'd be seeing 60C which is OK. Depending on load.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 04:37:47
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@kevinc313 ran Timespy today at 2070MHz @ 1.070V with ALL fans at 100% (bottom 3 intake, top 3 exhaust CPU AIO, GPU Hybrid and pull „be quiet silent wings“ on the hybrid.
Result: 61C at full load, 450W.
That’s really ok. But yeah. It sounds like a Tornado coming to town.
My wife asked „what the f… are you doing?“
:-)
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 06:44:49
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@kevinc313 ran Timespy today at 2070MHz @ 1.070V with ALL fans at 100% (bottom 3 intake, top 3 exhaust CPU AIO, GPU Hybrid and pull „be quiet silent wings“ on the hybrid.
Result: 61C at full load, 450W.
That’s really ok. But yeah. It sounds like a Tornado coming to town.
My wife asked „what the f… are you doing?“
:-)
Hey that sounds pretty good. Do you have a link to the run so we could take a look at it? Thanks!
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 06:50:28
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Let’s see if I can post links. Edit: nope :-) Edit2: and I can’t send pms :-D www.3dmark.com/spy/22333603 Damit Edit: I think it doesn’t sustain the frequency because of the 450w limit. HWInfo shows around 435W the whole run. And the frequency is jumping a bit between 1990 and 2075 MHz
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 07:41:26
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Let’s see if I can post links.
Edit: nope :-)
Edit2: and I can’t send pms :-D
www.3dmark.com/spy/22333603
Damit
Edit: I think it doesn’t sustain the frequency because of the 450w limit. HWInfo shows around 435W the whole run. And the frequency is jumping a bit between 1990 and 2075 MHz
Yeah the 3080 Ti's have hard time holding clock at 450w. 62C average (TS reported) is about what good air cooled 3080 Ti's do in TS, so you've got room for improvement. I'd try seal them with tape to the rad, try to get your room temp to 20C. Maybe top exhaust, but I doubt it would help. Oh yeah, keep the cpu on a curve so in the Graphics test the cpu fans are low and the hybrid rad gets more air.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 10:02:51
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Just got out of an hour of iracing idle 29 C 210mhz
fan floor is 40% on custom curve
Well im ok with the idle temps of 29c. I idle at 32-33c. But the concern is at load. Folks reporting 20c lower temps compared to mine is just mind boggling.
65C is OK but hard to say without knowing ambient temps, average power and fan speeds.
Ambient temps - 25c
Average Power - No idea (from HwInfo ?)
Fan Speeds - Custom Curve on Case fans and GPU Radiator based on GPU temps as follows :
3 Bottom Intakes - 40c - 960 rpm (20%); 50c - 1375 rpm (50%); 70c - 1607 rpm (70%); 90c and above - 1900 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV]
GPU Radiator (Push Pull 4 Arctic P12s) - 20c - 916 rpm (40%); 30c - 1259 rpm (60%); 40c - 1600 rpm (85%); 60c and above - 1758 rpm (100%)[Gigabyte SIV]
GPU Fan on the Shroud of the hybrid kit - 0 rpm (0%) until 40c, 50% at 50c, 70% at 60c, 100% at 90c. (in Precision X1)
Hope this helps !
You bet, check you power level in HWiNFO by starting the load, then resetting logging, then run the load/game for about 10-15 minutes and take the average power.
Shroud fan is fine. I'd get the rad fans to 100% by 50C and the bottom fans to 80% by 50C. Or you can try locking at a fixed speed per the advice here:
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3452558
Or you can set a curve with two plateaus, an idle speed below about 35-40C where it's quiet, then a constant speed above that temp where it stays when under load.
If you were at 20C ambient, you'd be seeing 60C which is OK. Depending on load.
Well then, I'm fine with it. I do not want my PC to sound like a plane taking off. So basically, my mount is perfect ! Thanks !
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 10:06:56
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Well then, I'm fine with it. I do not want my PC to sound like a plane taking off.
So basically, my mount is perfect ! Thanks !
Sounds good, but I'd strongly advise turning up the bottom intake a bit. And having the fans come on to your prefered speed at 50C or below helps with heat soak overall. By the time the gpu has crossed 60C the coolant is over 40C, it's not like an air cooler, the thermal mass of the AIO loop is far higher.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 11:10:55
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Well then, I'm fine with it. I do not want my PC to sound like a plane taking off.
So basically, my mount is perfect ! Thanks !
Sounds good, but I'd strongly advise turning up the bottom intake a bit. And having the fans come on to your prefered speed at 50C or below helps with heat soak overall. By the time the gpu has crossed 60C the coolant is over 40C, it's not like an air cooler, the thermal mass of the AIO loop is far higher.
Got it. Thanks for your inputs !! Appreciate it.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 16:36:45
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Well then, I'm fine with it. I do not want my PC to sound like a plane taking off.
So basically, my mount is perfect ! Thanks !
Sounds good, but I'd strongly advise turning up the bottom intake a bit. And having the fans come on to your prefered speed at 50C or below helps with heat soak overall. By the time the gpu has crossed 60C the coolant is over 40C, it's not like an air cooler, the thermal mass of the AIO loop is far higher.
Got it. Thanks for your inputs !! Appreciate it.
For a 3080ti on a 240 I don't think 65 is out of line, my 3080 with the same AIO would run 60-61 default profile at 380w I only got it in the 50s with fast/ aggressive fan profiles, it was an undervolt with that profile that got it back in the 40s, My KPE benefits from the extra room on a 360, but its the undervolt that gets things comfy for gaming. My goal was to look at FE performance as the standard or my default and lock in a clock and Mem OC that will perform within 1-2% and pull 100 or so less watts, and the cooling takes care of itself. Get the spped up to a tolerant level early , like 50C is maybe 70% fan. and look at what happens when you pull out the dust filters, some are really bad at cutting down air flow.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
2021/08/22 18:05:19
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Well then, I'm fine with it. I do not want my PC to sound like a plane taking off.
So basically, my mount is perfect ! Thanks !
Sounds good, but I'd strongly advise turning up the bottom intake a bit. And having the fans come on to your prefered speed at 50C or below helps with heat soak overall. By the time the gpu has crossed 60C the coolant is over 40C, it's not like an air cooler, the thermal mass of the AIO loop is far higher.
Got it. Thanks for your inputs !! Appreciate it.
For a 3080ti on a 240 I don't think 65 is out of line, my 3080 with the same AIO would run 60-61 default profile at 380w
I only got it in the 50s with fast/ aggressive fan profiles, it was an undervolt with that profile that got it back in the 40s, My KPE benefits from the extra room on a 360, but its the undervolt that gets things comfy for gaming. My goal was to look at FE performance as the standard or my default and lock in a clock and Mem OC that will perform within 1-2% and pull 100 or so less watts, and the cooling takes care of itself. Get the spped up to a tolerant level early , like 50C is maybe 70% fan. and look at what happens when you pull out the dust filters, some are really bad at cutting down air flow.
I mean, the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra I've been running goes 65C at 395w sustained but that's with 20C ambient and aggressive fairly optimized fans. Hoping to run a 3090 Hybrid at 450w+ sustained at under 60C at a reasonable volume, but I've got a box of a half dozen Phanteks T30's here ready to go.
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Re: Installed my 3090 FTW 3 Hybrid Kit high temps and I am very disappointed in the pump n
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