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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/03 15:21:56 (permalink)
Anyone get anything saying there pads are on there way yet or are still in prep stage before sending out this fix?
Also interesting question WickedMONK3Y. I am thinking its just just not something that helps to cover the chocks so air cooling works fine, BUT evga just gives you a really wide and thick pad that should cover the VRM's and the PWM' as a just in case since they are already spending money to fix this mess up, might as well spend a tiny bit more to cover all areas. That is just my guess though and maybe iam giving them too much credit.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 00:18:58 (permalink)
Well my request for thermal mods went from "Awaiting approval" to "Awaiting shipping this morning... so once I get the pads I will have a look at what they send and see how best to install. I have ordered some Fujipoly pads as well from Amazon as I am going to redo the thermal pads on the VRAM and the VRM's under the Base Plate. Friend showed me an interesting mod he made on his 1080 FTW where he had a thin copper plate machined and tacked onto the bottom of his ACX where the thermal pad would go and he put a 0.5mm pad between the baseplate and this copper plate. I wont do that because I love my warranty too much but it would stop the dust that was mentioned in an earlier post from building up on the actual thermal pad. Compressed air would keep it clean but its too much of a mod...
 

 
 
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 04:27:40 (permalink)
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Nice instruction and very useful.
 
I feel some will be apprehensive to undertake such a task and could also be put off somewhat from buying said cards, especially as they may see it as an aftermarket fix, rather than an upgrade to a functionary device?


It is super easy to do. People need to understand, these cards are not made of very thin glass.. Just don't drop them and everything will be fine.

If there is anything I can do to make the guide better, please let me know.

Hi Scarlet,
 
Thanks for the effort to make the thermal pad instruction, it is really clear and helpful. If possible can i please get clarification that the mechanism of thermal pad. As we apply the thermal pad on the front and back, is that going to trap all the heat in the component which explain why the temperature is lower, or the component that behind the thermal pad will have the same temperature of the thermal pad as the test show of around 75 cesium degree.
 
Kind regards
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 04:43:16 (permalink)
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Hi Scarlet,
 
Thanks for the effort to make the thermal pad instruction, it is really clear and helpful. If possible can i please get clarification that the mechanism of thermal pad. As we apply the thermal pad on the front and back, is that going to trap all the heat in the component which explain why the temperature is lower, or the component that behind the thermal pad will have the same temperature of the thermal pad as the test show of around 75 cesium degree.
 
Kind regards


HI cyanold,

The thermal pads will transfer the heat, not trap it. The way it is working on the front is transferring the heat from the heatspreader to help fins to dissipate the heat through the fins. On the back, it is pulling heat from the PCB and transferring it to the backplate, which then dissipates it off the backplate into the case or out of the rear exhaust fan in the case.

Hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 05:57:41 (permalink)
I installed the hybrid kit on my 1080 ftw , but I'm still a bit paranoid about the inductors not being actively cooled. Would there be no point to installing the thin strip thermal mod to the front of the card (on the inductors) since there is no heatsink above them in the hybrid kit? I'll still put the huge thermal pad on the back to help.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 06:26:58 (permalink)
There is no airflow restriction with the hybrid, so the airflow from the blower fan should cool your VRM fairly well. If you decide to put something on the top of the heat spreader, you could get small copper heatsinks for relatively low price, and install them directly over the heatspreader. That would draw even more heat away from the heatsink.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 09:29:33 (permalink)
Could you please give some information about the way to check/replace vram thermal pads?
 
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 12:39:50 (permalink)
I don't understand why a thermal pad is being applied. A thermal pad is is to fill the gap between the baseplate of the heatsink of the chip to be cooled, thus filling a very small air gap. The acx 3.0 heatsink that i seen in the pictures and and videos has no baseplate on the heatsink over the vrm area. So basically your just mashing the fins of the heatsink into the thermal pads. Imagine taking your tower cpu cooler, turning it on its side and have the fins make contact with your cpu instead of the base plate and heat pipes. This really makes no sense to me. If the ACX 3.0 cooler wasn't designed with a mating surface over the vrms, i don't see how you can fix the problem with thermal pads afterwards.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 13:00:26 (permalink)
Just got my package in today and installed thermal pads in about 10 mins.  Instructions within the package are pretty straight forward and easy.


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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/04 13:03:16 (permalink)
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Just got my package in today and installed thermal pads in about 10 mins.  Instructions within the package are pretty straight forward and easy.


But what exactly is the newly applied thermal pad making contact with?
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/09 02:03:36 (permalink)
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Just got my package in today and installed thermal pads in about 10 mins.  Instructions within the package are pretty straight forward and easy.


But what exactly is the newly applied thermal pad making contact with?




Looks like the fins of the heatsink, going by the picture in the tutorial. Seems like a real professional solution to their high end graphics card. Would be real nice to see toms hardware produce some flir images from their original card with the "fix" applied.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/09 04:19:39 (permalink)
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But what exactly is the newly applied thermal pad making contact with?


The thermal pads make contact between baseplate and the fins on the cooler to draw heat from.the vrm to the fins through the baseplate.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/09 14:05:23 (permalink)
I did that today with my gtx 1080 ftw.... actually the size of the thermal pads should be: 2 mm between the PCB and the Backplate in order PCB to get good contact with the Backplate. Then, 1 mm between the heatsink and the midplate, cheers! 
post edited by tisho1012 - 2016/11/10 02:17:52
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/09 17:32:54 (permalink)
JayzTwoCents did a video applying TIM to a GPU where he literally slathers it on there, all over the die, all around it, to prove a point. Too much TIM isn't bad (and sometimes good?), while not enough (ESPECIALLY for GPUs) is a big problem.
post edited by Enosoma - 2016/11/09 17:35:59


 
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/15 10:08:21 (permalink)
Where can you check the shipment status?
Ive tried asking evga twice on how long this takes but they are extremely good at evading such questions so all i got was vague misdirections at this pace my card could be dead and buried before i even get anything. They told me in the second time i asked
last monday they would ship but no mention where from thanks evga anyway so i blindly assumed to me but now i see that status page posted here i really wanna know how to find that because i bet i got nothing. Why so vague evga? you dont do vague accepting money is it this hard to answer where they ship from or give some guesstimate how long this takes? 2 support agents cant answer this? real nice always glad to pay 400 euro to have to screw around with it and be left in the dark but glad someone posted a nice guide this awesome job.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/15 10:20:05 (permalink)
You go to the page where you submitted the request.

EVGA is not going to give you a timeline until they have shipped the pads. The pads have to be cut at the factory, shipped to evga, sorted by evga, repackaged, then shipped to you. Be patient. Your card is going to be fine. If something happens, EVGA will take care of you.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/15 11:04:41 (permalink)
I wanted to pm you this answer but cant due to the rules so this is a bit offtopic.
so why did the 2 support agents have to give vague answers and not give the answer you give me a direct and normal answer? the other problem i asked and had no answer to since im in the netherlands i believe you have a holding in germany where are the pads shipped from? Its not so much evga taking care of me with rma etc would be right out an insult if they didnt but no one likes buying a 400 euro card or more just to go at it with few screw drivers for me this is a huge deal breaker and im not sure im sticking with evga in the future but i do know i will do some research see if you put padding on the cards or if we have to stab at them with screwdrivers again.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/11/15 11:15:03 (permalink)
Thanks for the info. I did my mods asthma week. I put my own thermal paste on as it has better stats. One thing I did do was leave the connector on the back of the card. I just flipped the heatsink so I didn't have to pay it up. Unfortunately I will have to do it again as my early kit didn't include the vram pads. Even so, my temps dropped quite a bit combined with moving my card to the bottom slot.


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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/12/11 07:31:29 (permalink)
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Thanks for the thread. There is one thing concerning me when I look at the EVGA Guide to do this, and then look at yours, and then look at other disassembled coolers. Usually the VRM's on the front of the PCB should have the thermal pads physically on them and not over them on the base plate. As far as I am aware there is actually a thermal strip on the baseplate itself but its the gap between the fins on the cooler and the baseplate (and the dead zone underneath the fan by the VRM's) so there is little transfer from the plate to the fins.
 
Sorry for the long into but my question now comes in. EVGA's guide shows that you have to COVER the PWM's and VRMS while yours shows to still leave the PWM's open and put the pad over the VRM area of the base plate. Which method is actually correct because I am quite loath to disassemble 2 cards that cost well over $ 700 (our local exchange rate in South Africa at time of writing is almost 14 to 1 to the Dollar) unless I am 200% certain that I know what I am doing. We don't have the luxury of Cross shipping here and have to rely on standard RMA...
 
The reason I ask is when I look at the ASUS Strix Cooler, the Thermal pad makes contact with the VRMs only and the PWM's are left exposed. while EVGA wants us to put the pad over the PWMs...

EVGA Forum Moderators aren't EVGA employees. Do what EVGA has suggested in their official guide.


Pretty crap reply from a EVGA Mod :) A legit question no less.
I got the pads from EVGA but it does not make too much sense to cover them. Sure, it helps. But those were never the problem anyway?
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/12/11 11:28:56 (permalink)
To the best of my knowledge, the vrm has pads underneath the cooling plate. The pads cover the mosfets and Area over the vrm at the same time. Strictly overkill for the mosfets but no reason not to. Their faq says you can just put pads over the vrm section next to the mosfets if you buy your own pads.


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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2016/12/11 12:15:41 (permalink)
Not sure it helps you xfade81 but i followed the guide evga sent with the package (evga support never mentioned this either when asking for a manual so good job once again evga and just pointing to this thread) and it does help lower the temps while running furmark. A side note to evga if you dont know the answer instead of being vague just say you dont know no shame in that instead of having 2 evga representatives say 2 different vague replies.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2017/05/15 19:29:00 (permalink)
Good tutorial
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2017/06/01 03:59:31 (permalink)
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JayzTwoCents did a video applying TIM to a GPU where he literally slathers it on there, all over the die, all around it, to prove a point. Too much TIM isn't bad (and sometimes good?), while not enough (ESPECIALLY for GPUs) is a big problem.


Heres  a couple of applying tests that were done where they went through many methods and applications and you can see the difference and how many air bubbles form in each instance. Really well done and very informative articles. They are both a little older, but that doesn't change the info at all. Hope that helps the guys that come to this fact page.
 
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Thermal-Paste-Application-Techniques-170/  
 
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/what-is-the-best-way-to-apply-thermal-grease-part-1/11/ 

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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2017/06/23 06:04:52 (permalink)
surely this voids any warrenty on your card
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2017/06/23 06:06:18 (permalink)
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surely this voids any warrenty on your card


Negative ghost rider, EVGA requested people to install these to save shipping. EVGA does not void warranties like other companies do.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2017/08/13 12:25:20 (permalink)
I have an SC Black 1070 (no backplate) purchased in March of this year.  It just burned out on me, right on one of the VMRAM slots.  As much as this has been confirmed for the FTW models, I'm several online articles showing the same symptoms on the SC Black which appears to use the reference model PCB.  Can anyone confirm?  I have placed a support request so we will see how that goes.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2018/02/09 11:31:14 (permalink)
Very informative. 
I've been playing around a lot with this sort of stuff but have been slightly intimidated just because I've never done it before.
So I thank you! This is very helpful and will probably get me to open my GPU up further just to play with it - it's dead anyways. 
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2019/04/18 15:32:00 (permalink)
How do you apple thermal pads for the EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3?
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2019/04/18 16:14:40 (permalink)
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How do you apple thermal pads for the EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3?


Apply the pads the same way they come off on the 1080ti FTW3. I say that, because the new thermal pads were don’t before the 1080ti FTW3 came out, so you shouldn’t need to change their positions.
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Re: How to apply the Thermal Pads for the 1070/1080 Cards 2019/05/24 12:12:59 (permalink)
hi all, sorry for my english
 
my GTX 1070 FTW has already installed this thermal pads ( is it possible that this pad installed in factory ?)

but when i chek my serail number on this site: https://www.evga.com/thermalmod/ it says recommended steps to do
my bios version is  86.04.1e.00.70, proposed bios version is  86.04.50.00.72
If this procedure was performed in the factory ( thermal mod) , why does not have this card new bios

 
 
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