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2010/04/15 21:50:42 (permalink)
I have a Problem, with my 3dMark scores.
 Ok, heres my Set-up,
Asus 980a Sli
AMD Phenom x4 2.3ghz ~ Been told it could be the reason for low performance.
GTX 480 Vanilla OC to 751/1501/1905
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32'' LCD HDTV WestingHouse  1366x768 Native 16:9

 GTX 480 Oced 3dMark Vantage - Physx On

CPU: 31,780
GPU:   9,769

GTX 9800's SLI  OCed 3dMark Vantage - Physx On

CPU: 24,968
GPU:   7,768

 GTX 480 Oced 3dMark06 - Physx On

3dMark: 8,976
SM2.0: 2,955
SM3.0: 4,573
CPU: 2,847

GTX 9800's SLI  OCed 3dMark Vantage - Physx On

3dMark: 9,081
SM2.0: 3,088
SM3.0: 4,536
CPU: 2,867

Adding a NEW CPU and Ram this week end ~ Was told i should fix my low performance.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4Ghz ~ Prob Oc to 4.0-4.1
RAM: G.Skill DDR2 1200 5-5-5-15 2x2Gbs


BFBC2 runs Max Setting 11-30 Fps DX11~ Might Reach 40's
CSS runs Max Setting 40-90 Fps DX9

Any advice would be helpful.
post edited by shinedown - 2010/04/15 21:53:08

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/15 22:19:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Does your current CPU not OC at all?  Can you disable GPU PhysX and re-rerun Vantage to isolate your actual CPU score?  It does look like the CPU is a major problem there, 10K is really low for the GPU scores but that GPU score is still CPU dependent to produce frames to render.  The Phenom II should help a lot, especially if you can get it up ~4GHz.

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/15 22:26:04 (permalink)
My CPU Cant Oc at all its Very unstable when OCing, And yea ill go do a 3dMark Vantage run with Physx Off.

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/15 22:43:50 (permalink)
Here ya go
Cpu was way lower now



 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/15 23:30:13 (permalink)
Got my Card to Oc at 826/2008/1652 ran OC Scanner for 10mins and 0 ArtiFacts. This a Good Oc for a GTX 480 Vanilla?

Taking Another run at 3dMark Vantage with these Clocks.

And when im running my GTX 9800+ as a physx should i see it in Nvidia Control Panel or in my Device manager because with my 9800's it showed both and ask me to pick what one i want to dedicate to physx.

post edited by shinedown - 2010/04/15 23:35:04

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:09:27 (permalink)
Man you shoulda spent the money on a cpu not a video card.

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:25:18 (permalink)
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Man you shoulda spent the money on a cpu not a video card.


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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:28:20 (permalink)
once you get your 965 you should be fine with a nice overclock =)

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:32:32 (permalink)
Yea, i was told i needed a Upgrade seeing my CPU is 3-4 Years old. And my Ram is Dumb and wont run 1066 with AM2 only with AM2+ CPUs

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:35:53 (permalink)
I don't think it's your cpu because when i had the e5200 it would score about 6800 in the cpu score at 3.9Hz but the single 5850 would still get it's 13,000-14,000 gpu score..

It really looks like your system thinks what ever you had before the 480 it still there or the PCI Express clock is set to low and not running full 16x as more like 8x or something..


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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:39:01 (permalink)
Look at this benchmark as the low cpu score did not keep the video card from doing it's job..

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=1697570&compareResultType=19


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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 00:55:17 (permalink)
Ill Try Taking my 9800GTX out then and try new benches


 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 01:40:15 (permalink)
GTX 480 In top slot PCI_x16_1
Slot 2 and 3 wont recognize the Card.

Getting 9023 GPU 29235 CPU in 3dMark Vantage Still not getting  A Overall 3dMark

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 01:48:26 (permalink)
Looks like something is wrong with Vantage, your score's should not be that low. The CPU shouldnt affact the GPU score that much, and you should definitely be getting a GPU score.

Try seeing what kind of FPS you get in games. Maybe fire up a Crysis benchmark if you have it and post up the results here.

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 01:59:30 (permalink)
Test BFBC2 at 750/1950/1501
DX11 All Settings Max AA 16xx AF 16xQ
1366x768 16:9 Native Resolution

Getting 11-30 might hit 40's Sever 32/32 ppl

Tried my HDMI 1920x1080i 30hz was Flickering alot so not using it

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 02:34:25 (permalink)
Wow this is odd. Did you clean out the previous drivers?
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 02:52:34 (permalink)
use Driver Sweeper and clean your drivers

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 02:53:24 (permalink)
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Test BFBC2 at 750/1950/1501
DX11 All Settings Max AA 16xx AF 16xQ
1366x768 16:9 Native Resolution

Getting 11-30 might hit 40's Sever 32/32 ppl

Tried my HDMI 1920x1080i 30hz was Flickering alot so not using it


Hey Man, Try that Resolution at 60 hz

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 02:53:44 (permalink)
What version of 3dMark Vantage are you running?  I didn't know they were up to build 1.02 until the night I installed my 2 x GTX 480's.  When I'd try to run it using build 1.01 of Vantage, it would do the first three tests fine, but lock up on the PhysX test if I had PhysX on.  Turn it off it would run fine.  Maybe patch Vantage to 1.02 if you haven't yet, if you have reinstall it.

Kram36 suggested this already, but clean out your previous drivers.  Do both an uninstall, and clean them with something like Driver Sweeper (I think you can still download it from Guru of 3D).

Anyway, Vantage is the only benchmark I've ran so far, but it runs fine for me, so past this I'm not sure what to suggest.
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 08:52:23 (permalink)
I don't know anything about your board but when in Sli is it 8x /8x ?? is there jumper or switch for full x16 in slot 1?  also you could try to reset the cmos as this could be the issue as well..


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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 15:34:52 (permalink)
I Removed my drivers manually, ill try driver sweeper. My Mobo is  3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (dual x16 or triple x8)

And my Monitor for some reason acts like it doesnt really support 1080i resolutions so ill just keep with my 1366:768 16:9 res for now.

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 17:11:17 (permalink)
Clean the Drivers completely with driver sweeper installed, made sure it was the in right place and version.

i got the for the 3dMark

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http://i98.photobucket.co...0PhysxOn-NewDriver.jpg

Im think its just my CPU bottle-necking me alot, so i will test it more once i get my CPU and RAm in.

Question never used a Card for deicated physx but do i need to install somthing for it? or should i have a choice in Nvidia Controle Ranel to pick my GTX 9800+ for my Physx, because with my 9800's in SLI i was able to pick witch one i want to dedicated physx on.

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 17:19:17 (permalink)
  Are all the other gpu's removed besides the GTX480?
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/16 18:01:05 (permalink)
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  Are all the other gpu's removed besides the GTX480?


Yes, Only the GTX480 is in the computer at this time.

Talked to a Tech rep at EVGA and he said 9k is about wht 1xGTX480 should run, so im just gonig to wait till Tuesday to get my New cpu and ram and see if that help, I think my Phenom x4 9600 is at its limit and same with my Ram.
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/19 15:50:46 (permalink)
New 3d mark Scores, with my AMD PII x4 965 Oced to 4.0ghz
Looks like Cpu was a Big Factor in my BottleNecking

OLD Scores Performance Settings 1366x768

http://i98.photobucket.co...0PhysxOn-NewDriver.jpg

New Scores Performance Settings 1366x768

http://i98.photobucket.co...X480Physx965-40ghz.jpg

 
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/19 15:52:18 (permalink)
yeah that looks alot better!
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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/19 15:58:13 (permalink)
Awesome, glad we got to the bottom of it.   But ya these cards need CPU cycles, plain and simple.  You can't double/triple/quadruple performance from previous gen cards and expect a slower CPU from 2-3 years ago to be sufficient.  Even now I have a feeling current i7's aren't enough to push Quad CF or Quad SLI which is part of the reason we see such poor scaling right now.

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Re:GTX 480 Performance Problem 2010/04/19 16:15:08 (permalink)
Yep, thanks for the help all. Now to figure out why i cannot pick 1200mhz in my bios with ym m4n82 deluxe with 1901 bios.
Time to go pick on a ASUS Tech rep.

Post a new 3D Mark After i get my Ram to 1200 Mhz

 
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