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2022/12/13 10:01:32 (permalink)
Hi everyone,
 
Can you list issues that you're having or still having as of 2.05?  I've reported a lot of issues to our team, but I would like to track related issues here.  This isn't really a thread about overclocking issues, but I also don't want to overlook an issue that might affect your overclocking.  I don't mind requests for things that you want in the BIOS, but I will keep them as part of a separate list.
 
My preference is for short posts here with a link to anywhere that you've described the issue in more detail. Of course, if you haven't posted anywhere about your issue, then please feel free to start a new thread or post here.  I'll update this thread periodically as more issues come in.
 
Issues (in no particular order)
  • Windows re-authentication after updating the BIOS.
  • Shutdown bootloop to restart.
post edited by EVGATech_LeeM - 2022/12/13 16:21:54
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 10:56:58 (permalink)
    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 11:02:38 (permalink)
    SirChomp
    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.


    Which version and build?


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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 11:35:04 (permalink)
    same here about needing to reactivate windows. i moved from 1.15 to 2.02. then went to 2.05 and i had to re-do my windows 11 license. also, i have issue with windows not shutting down.
     
    1.15 works perfect for shutdown.
    2.02 i need to do two rounds. shutdown, it will reboot then shutdown again and machine will stay off.
    2.05 pretty much a boot loop if i do shutdown. only holding power button for at least 30 secs or removing ac to psu will power machine off. 
     
    My build specs are as follows:
     
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 Build 22621.900 Feature Experience Pack 1000.22638.1000.0
    Intel Core i9 12900K
    EVGA Z690 Classified 
    Corsair CHM32GX5M2B520PC40 ddr5 vengeance rgb 5200mhz ram
    ASUS TUF RX6500XT
    MSI M470 1TB Pcie3 Ssd
    Corsair RM850x
    LianLi 011D AirMini case
     
    Things i have tried: turn off fast boot on windows and bios, update lan and intel ME drivers from Intel, uninstalled intel XTU, EVGA ELEET X1, Throttle stop and result all bios settings to default without any modificatiosn, not even XMP profiles. The rest of the drivers either came from EVGA support or AMD gpu drivers.
     
     
    Thank you Lee for taking this initiative. 
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 13:57:51 (permalink)
    As far as having to reactivate Windows, I have experienced this with Windows and other software whenever the product name changes. If EVGA changes the text in the product's model name in the BIOS from something like "(E699) Z690 DARK KINGPIN" to "Z690 DARK KINGPIN" (just a made-up example for illustration) it will trigger re-activation.
     
    I also encountered this with the Z690 Dark going from BIOS v1.15 with a 12900K to v2.00+ with 13900K. It caused my Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC 2019, Windows 10 LTSC 2021 and Windows 11 product activations to trip.
     
    I saw this same problem on the X299 Dark and Z490 Dark going from an early BIOS to a newer BIOS and the name change was visible in CPU-Z. It caused my Mini-Tool Partition Wizard license to need reactivation and the people at Mini-Tool refused to renew my license activation after about 8 or 10 activations. My Windows 7 license also got blacklisted. With both software titles I had to resort to shady product activation methods that I know neither of them would have approved of, and I would not normally consider. And, it happened every time I changed to a different BIOS switch position where the product name changed.
     
    So, I guess the take-away is, don't change the name of the product in the BIOS. Pick something and stick with it for the long haul.
    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/13 14:49:53

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 14:41:36 (permalink)
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    I don't mind requests for things that you want in the BIOS, but I will keep them as part of a separate list.
     

    Hi, Lee. Thanks for asking. Here are my suggestions. 

    Why is there no way to set the date and time from within the EVGA BIOS? The fields where the date and time appear are not editable. The instructions in the space on the right side say to tab between the fields, but there are no fields to tab into, only static text displaying whatever happens to populate the date and time, which is never accurate after clearing NVRAM.


     It would be good to have a little more control in the memory skew ODT settings. As you can see, the EVGA options are very limited. Only 5 ODT adjustment options per DIMM compared to the 13 available in the ASUS BIOS.

     

    It would also be really nice to have some kind of silicon quality prediction mechanism (SP rating) like ASUS and MSI's Force2 rating in the EVGA BIOS. This would be very useful for comparing silicon samples one owns as well as discussions of system behaviors others encounter. There are often at least a few conclusions that can be drawn based on the silicon quality. Beyond basic diagnostic value, being able to identify the silicon quality in a measurable (when it is good silicon) also helps with CPU resale value. I know of someone that EVGA conducts business with as far as overclocking consulting (whose name I will not drop here because everyone else knows who that person is) that just paid a friend of mine over $1,100 for a superior 13900K sample to use in his competitive overclocking adventures.
     
    As it stands currently, I generally feel that I need to have one of my systems running an ASUS motherboard so that I can use it for that very purpose, even though my preference is strongly biased in favor of EVGA. I really do not like ASUS as a company and their products are generally unreliable based on my own experience. But, the robust features available in their BIOS are notably superior.
     

     
     
     
    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/13 15:08:36

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 15:04:21 (permalink)
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    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.


    Which version and build?






    Win11 Pro 22H2 Build 22621.900
     
    Went from Bios 2.03 to 2.05 on Z690 Classified
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 16:08:40 (permalink)
    Bios v2.05: Rear USB C I/O still is not backwards compatible to USB A, only works for a true USB C connection only

    CASE: Corsair 7000D
    MB: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED
    CPU: I9 12900KS
    RAM: 16 Gb ram GSkill Trident DDR5 6000 Mhz
    SSD NVMe: Samsung Gen 4 NVMe 500 Gb, NVMe 2 tb
    GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 TI
    PSU: EVGA SUPERNOVA 1600W P+
    MOUSE: EVGA X20
    KEYBOARD: EVGA Z20


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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/13 16:25:03 (permalink)
    Hi, new to evga boards, have a z690 classified, I saw there was suppose to be some fix for Vcore, but mine still appears to be running at 1.35+ even when idling. I don’t believe that’s normal right?
    bios 2.05
    Cpu i7-13700k
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 00:42:14 (permalink)
    Can no longer run default XMP on a Corsair 7600 kit when I installed a 13900k (from a 12900k). Can run default 4800 but ANYTHInG higher and games/benching crash do desktop. Can post fine.
    EDIT as of 12/25 (who overclocks on Christmas?)
    I fixed my memory overclock issue and I am stable XMP1 at 7600 within 2.05.   Pushed to 8000 and holding! So just the Windows11 Authenticate issue remains for me.  

    Also have the windows Authentication issue. Microsoft account doesn't even see the setup anymore. MS support is wanting me go buy another copy...

    Z690 Dark 2.05
    13900k
    Corsair 7600 kit
    Windows 11
     
    post edited by raiden2a - 2022/12/24 23:51:22
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 06:25:37 (permalink)
    raiden2a
    Can no longer run default XMP on a Corsair 7600 kit when I installed a 13900k (from a 12900k). Can run default 4800 but ANYTHInG higher and games/benching crash do desktop. Can post fine.

    Also have the windows Authentication issue. Microsoft account doesn't even see the setup anymore. MS support is wanting me go buy another copy...

    Z690 Dark 2.05
    13900k
    Corsair 7600 kit
    Windows 11

    If you flash down from 2.05 to 2.03 or 2.00 does Windows activate? If so, compare the BIOS system name (which you can see in CPU-Z or Advanced System Information).
     
    FWIW, I feel your pain. I returned Corsair Vengeance 7200 and Team Group Delta 7200 A-die kits because they were unstable. No trouble with my generic M-die modules or my G.SKILL 7200 A-die kit.
    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/14 06:27:05

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 10:09:24 (permalink)
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    I don't mind requests for things that you want in the BIOS, but I will keep them as part of a separate list.
     

    Hi, Lee. Thanks for asking. Here are my suggestions. 

    Why is there no way to set the date and time from within the EVGA BIOS? The fields where the date and time appear are not editable. The instructions in the space on the right side say to tab between the fields, but there are no fields to tab into, only static text displaying whatever happens to populate the date and time, which is never accurate after clearing NVRAM.



    Can't reproduce this.  I have a Z690 CLASSIFIED with 2.05 and you can edit/update the Date and time.  When the number is highlighted, just type in a number and hit tab to move on to the next set of digits. 
     
    It doesn't have a popup/dropdown menu or confirmation menu as many other settings do, so I can understand why this area might be a little confusing.
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 12:02:15 (permalink)
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    Can't reproduce this.  I have a Z690 CLASSIFIED with 2.05 and you can edit/update the Date and time.  When the number is highlighted, just type in a number and hit tab to move on to the next set of digits. 
     
    It doesn't have a popup/dropdown menu or confirmation menu as many other settings do, so I can understand why this area might be a little confusing.
    When I click directly on the date or time text/numbers nothing gets highlighted or changes appearance. It is as if I am clicking on the background were there is no text.


    This could be an additional weird issue with my system and the replacement motherboard should be arriving tomorrow. If the replacement is the same I will mention it here.
    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/14 12:03:59

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    Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb

     
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 12:02:16 (permalink)
    Cpu temp not accurate
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 12:03:14 (permalink)
    Mr. Fox
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    Can't reproduce this.  I have a Z690 CLASSIFIED with 2.05 and you can edit/update the Date and time.  When the number is highlighted, just type in a number and hit tab to move on to the next set of digits. 
     
    It doesn't have a popup/dropdown menu or confirmation menu as many other settings do, so I can understand why this area might be a little confusing.
    When I click on the date or time nothing gets highlighted or changes appearance. It is as if I am clicking on the background were there is no text.


    This could be an additional weird issue with my system and the replacement motherboard should be arriving tomorrow. If the replacement is the same I will mention it here.


    Yeah, this is a setting you can't really click on.  Just navigate with the keyboard.
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 12:03:28 (permalink)
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    Cpu temp not accurate

    Need more details, please.
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 12:08:11 (permalink)
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    Kathum
    Cpu temp not accurate

    Need more details, please.

    Temp reading (even in Bios is wrong) , it shows me like 16c , but my water temp is ~21C. Usually i‘m ~ 30C in Bios (from my experience).
    Z690 Kingpin
    13900KF
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/14 15:09:07 (permalink)
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    Kathum
    Cpu temp not accurate

    Need more details, please.

    Temp reading (even in Bios is wrong) , it shows me like 16c , but my water temp is ~21C. Usually i‘m ~ 30C in Bios (from my experience).
    Z690 Kingpin
    13900KF

    On my Z690 Dark it shows the 13900K CPU temperature in the BIOS about 5°C higher than my water temperature sensor reading at idle, which seems about right.

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/15 17:38:34 (permalink)
    Hello! check how 13gen (13700k specifically) and m-die RAM works with EVGA classified. It cannot overclock over 6600mhz. its incredible bad.
     
    my patriot viper venom rgb 6200 32 and 12700kf on 2.05 bios get 6600 32 40 40 32 on 1.2 vddq TX voltage and easy boot and runs aida 64 memory test on 6933, 6800 and boot with 7000+
    Now i bought  13700kf and with same voltage and timing specs doesnt work on 6600 (can work with 1.45 VDDQ TX and on 6800, the MOBO cant work on any voltages and timing)
    i think evga team didn't test classified with 13gen processors, because 13700kf cant be so much worse then 12700kf in memory clocking :)
     
    12700kf so easy starts and benchs 6600-6800-6933, 13700kf after 6600 only bsods, on 12700kf I have not seen a single bsod on 6800, errors in memtest yes, but bsods noo
    sorry for my bad english but i shocked 
     
     
    please someone who has classified write review pls becouse now 13 gen<12 gen in memory on this board
     
    and right now i sit on 2.04 becouse 2.05 F7 code(when i was on 12700kf, i update on 2.05, all works, when i installed 13700k its worked, but i try update bios(becouse so bad mem clocks) and after update 7F allday:D, i try reinstall from flash, same, and when i install 2.04 its works now) 
     
     memory works same on 2.04 and 2.05 same bad, but on 12 gen was very good
    post edited by Ekwb1103 - 2022/12/15 18:37:40

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/16 00:21:28 (permalink)
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    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.

    Which version and build?
    This is with the RMA replacement received today. All other hardware is the same, just a mobo swap. Was on 2.05 on the previous mobo.


    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22000.1098]

    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/16 00:25:33

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    Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb

     
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/16 02:37:51 (permalink)
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    SirChomp
    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.


    Which version and build?




    I've experienced this on EVERY Bios update EXCEPT 2.04 for some inexplicable reason.  With 2.04, I did still have to reset my login pin (as I've also had to do with every update).  As a result, MSFT no longer lets me use my "digital keys" as it says I've activated too many times on my MSFT account, so I need to resort to manually inputting my key if I do any further bios updates.  Good times.
     
     

     
     
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/16 05:54:34 (permalink)
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    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.


    Which version and build?

    I've experienced this on EVERY Bios update EXCEPT 2.04 for some inexplicable reason.  With 2.04, I did still have to reset my login pin (as I've also had to do with every update).  As a result, MSFT no longer lets me use my "digital keys" as it says I've activated too many times on my MSFT account, so I need to resort to manually inputting my key if I do any further bios updates.  Good times.

    This has not happened (yet) on my Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC 2019, or Windows 10 LTSC 2021 installations, only Windows 11.

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    Banshee // ASUS Z690 Apex | 13900KF | ASROCK 6900 XT OC Formula | 32GB DDR5 | Corsair RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova D5*2 || Corsair 5000D Airflow
    Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb

     
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/16 16:50:30 (permalink)
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    Having to re-activate Windows when I updated to 2.05.


    Which version and build?

    I've experienced this on EVERY Bios update EXCEPT 2.04 for some inexplicable reason.  With 2.04, I did still have to reset my login pin (as I've also had to do with every update).  As a result, MSFT no longer lets me use my "digital keys" as it says I've activated too many times on my MSFT account, so I need to resort to manually inputting my key if I do any further bios updates.  Good times.

    This has not happened (yet) on my Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC 2019, or Windows 10 LTSC 2021 installations, only Windows 11.

    Sorry, should've been clear it was Windows 11. Haven't tried any previous OSes.

     
     
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/17 13:52:49 (permalink)
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    Unable to pass Memory tests with default XMP profile on 2.05, Errors out within 30 seconds. Changing all voltages does not fix the issue.
     
    2.02 Passes 10000% Memtest with no errors
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/17 15:52:48 (permalink)
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    Unable to pass Memory tests with default XMP profile on 2.05, Errors out within 30 seconds. Changing all voltages does not fix the issue.
     
    2.02 Passes 10000% Memtest with no errors

    FYI - I just finished packing up the exact same memory kit (literally less than 5 minutes ago) for a refund from Amazon and I experienced EXACTLY what you described. Garbage. 
    FWIW - the G.SKILL was every bit as unstable, maybe even more so, on my ASUS Z690-E mobo. 
     
    What was even more interesting is the memory profile from the G.SKILL 7200 was saved and my generic green M-die Hynix modules booted and ran the G.SKILL settings with no changes whatsoever without a single error from TM5 for MemTest Pro. I am running it now and have zero issues. It did not even take but a few seconds to retrain after I got the error at POST that the memory changed. I entered Setup, pressed F10 to save and exit, and it is rock solid.

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/17 19:47:27 (permalink)
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    Unable to pass Memory tests with default XMP profile on 2.05, Errors out within 30 seconds. Changing all voltages does not fix the issue.
     
    2.02 Passes 10000% Memtest with no errors

    FYI - I just finished packing up the exact same memory kit (literally less than 5 minutes ago) for a refund from Amazon and I experienced EXACTLY what you described. Garbage. 
    FWIW - the G.SKILL was every bit as unstable, maybe even more so, on my ASUS Z690-E mobo. 
     
    What was even more interesting is the memory profile from the G.SKILL 7200 was saved and my generic green M-die Hynix modules booted and ran the G.SKILL settings with no changes whatsoever without a single error from TM5 for MemTest Pro. I am running it now and have zero issues. It did not even take but a few seconds to retrain after I got the error at POST that the memory changed. I entered Setup, pressed F10 to save and exit, and it is rock solid.




    Interesting i have two of these kits, i swapped out the kits to make sure it wasn't dimm specific, they run flawlessly in my x670 build albeit @ 6400C30 and they run perfectly at @7400 with the factory xmp @1.435v on 2.02 but i cannot even get them stable on 2.05 at default 7200XMP. 2.02 i am limited to a max of 1.435v
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/18 08:51:50 (permalink)
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    Unable to pass Memory tests with default XMP profile on 2.05, Errors out within 30 seconds. Changing all voltages does not fix the issue.
     
    2.02 Passes 10000% Memtest with no errors

    FYI - I just finished packing up the exact same memory kit (literally less than 5 minutes ago) for a refund from Amazon and I experienced EXACTLY what you described. Garbage. 
    FWIW - the G.SKILL was every bit as unstable, maybe even more so, on my ASUS Z690-E mobo. 
     
    What was even more interesting is the memory profile from the G.SKILL 7200 was saved and my generic green M-die Hynix modules booted and ran the G.SKILL settings with no changes whatsoever without a single error from TM5 for MemTest Pro. I am running it now and have zero issues. It did not even take but a few seconds to retrain after I got the error at POST that the memory changed. I entered Setup, pressed F10 to save and exit, and it is rock solid.




    Interesting i have two of these kits, i swapped out the kits to make sure it wasn't dimm specific, they run flawlessly in my x670 build albeit @ 6400C30 and they run perfectly at @7400 with the factory xmp @1.435v on 2.02 but i cannot even get them stable on 2.05 at default 7200XMP. 2.02 i am limited to a max of 1.435v

    You have to enable "extreme voltage mode" in the bios to go above 1.435V. You can safely ignore the ominous warning when you enable that. All you're doing is removing the voltage cap. I'm not sure why that's not already enabled by default. I have to do the same thing on my Asus z690 motherboard. They refer to it as something like "Advanced voltage mode" or something similar. (I'm not at my computer now so I can't check what Asus calls it, and I don't remember the exact verbiage.)
    post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/18 08:52:59

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/18 12:40:36 (permalink)
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    Unable to pass Memory tests with default XMP profile on 2.05, Errors out within 30 seconds. Changing all voltages does not fix the issue.
     
    2.02 Passes 10000% Memtest with no errors

    FYI - I just finished packing up the exact same memory kit (literally less than 5 minutes ago) for a refund from Amazon and I experienced EXACTLY what you described. Garbage. 
    FWIW - the G.SKILL was every bit as unstable, maybe even more so, on my ASUS Z690-E mobo. 
     
    What was even more interesting is the memory profile from the G.SKILL 7200 was saved and my generic green M-die Hynix modules booted and ran the G.SKILL settings with no changes whatsoever without a single error from TM5 for MemTest Pro. I am running it now and have zero issues. It did not even take but a few seconds to retrain after I got the error at POST that the memory changed. I entered Setup, pressed F10 to save and exit, and it is rock solid.




    Interesting i have two of these kits, i swapped out the kits to make sure it wasn't dimm specific, they run flawlessly in my x670 build albeit @ 6400C30 and they run perfectly at @7400 with the factory xmp @1.435v on 2.02 but i cannot even get them stable on 2.05 at default 7200XMP. 2.02 i am limited to a max of 1.435v

    You have to enable "extreme voltage mode" in the bios to go above 1.435V. You can safely ignore the ominous warning when you enable that. All you're doing is removing the voltage cap. I'm not sure why that's not already enabled by default. I have to do the same thing on my Asus z690 motherboard. They refer to it as something like "Advanced voltage mode" or something similar. (I'm not at my computer now so I can't check what Asus calls it, and I don't remember the exact verbiage.)



    Thanks, 2.05 must have that option enabled by default as there is no voltage cap to 1.435. However 2.05 is useless with these Dimms. This 13900k i have seems to be a bit of a dud overclocking wise, it would be nice if these boards had a similar function to the SP indicator on the asus boards. This thing draws 365w at stock clocks on a r23 pull and i am seeing people with good samples doing 5.8 all core @ 1.3v closer to 300w. This chip wants 1.33 to do 5.7 all core and will touch 400W at that setting
    post edited by jollydet - 2022/12/18 12:43:03
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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/18 21:18:48 (permalink)
    So, the extra voltage points... I have some questions which may indicate issues that can be fixed or improved. I haven't done thorough testing of this feature yet as it's unclear how to make it work effectively in its current state, so feel free to enlighten me if my questions are just due to ignorance on my part.

    As others pointed out on previous bios versions, you can add or subtract voltage offsets at each point (as before), but it still does not tell you what the base line is so it's hard to tell if it is doing anything or what you're adding or subtracting to. Can this be remedied?

    The top three points are all 58x. Are they supposed to be? If my top multiplyer is 60x, shouldn't there be a point there and at 59x instead of 3 at 58x?

    Are we supposed to be on auto or adaptive voltage mode for this feature to work properly? I can edit points while voltage mode is auto, adaptive, or override (which wouldn't make sense)... But if I try to set the voltage on auto or adaptive, then set an offset on one of the v/F points... Shouldn't I then see a different voltage while doing the all core stress test within the bios? What about the OC Robot? Does "auto" just do adaptive if it's not in override mode?

    Thanks

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    Re: Z690 Issue Tracker (as of BIOS v2.05) 2022/12/19 04:34:20 (permalink)
    B0baganoosh
    So, the extra voltage points... I have some questions which may indicate issues that can be fixed or improved. I haven't done thorough testing of this feature yet as it's unclear how to make it work effectively in its current state, so feel free to enlighten me if my questions are just due to ignorance on my part.

    As others pointed out on previous bios versions, you can add or subtract voltage offsets at each point (as before), but it still does not tell you what the base line is so it's hard to tell if it is doing anything or what you're adding or subtracting to. Can this be remedied?

    The top three points are all 58x. Are they supposed to be? If my top multiplyer is 60x, shouldn't there be a point there and at 59x instead of 3 at 58x?

    Are we supposed to be on auto or adaptive voltage mode for this feature to work properly? I can edit points while voltage mode is auto, adaptive, or override (which wouldn't make sense)... But if I try to set the voltage on auto or adaptive, then set an offset on one of the v/F points... Shouldn't I then see a different voltage while doing the all core stress test within the bios? What about the OC Robot? Does "auto" just do adaptive if it's not in override mode?

    Thanks
     
    hi, as i understand u have 13 gen, classy, and mdie, so can your memory be stable after 6600? and on 6600? 
    and also i think classy want more voltage on CPU then it need:) can i talk with u in TG and discuss? my tg as my nick on forum:D 
    i cant write u PM cuz im new on this forum:) but i want to chat with u


    post edited by Ekwb1103 - 2022/12/19 04:37:33

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