sixfive442
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Thursday, November 03, 2022 9:34 PM
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So I bought a EVGA 3080 12G 12G-P5-4879-KL, thinking it was a 12G-P5-4878-KL. I did not realize it until I prepared to install it. The main differences is the 4878 comes with the cooling fans, pump, hoses, etc. The 4879 is just the water block. Customer Service says sorry, but EVGA can no longer supply the missing parts, can not exchange the cards (listed as the same price on this site), or advise. I did find a 3rd party selling the EVGA 400-HY-1978-B1 conversion kit for the XCS for $185 US (it is no longer available on this site, even as B-stock). That includes the missing parts, but since it is a sealed system, it appears I would have to replace water block anyway? Anyone know of a better system upgrade? If so, please be fairly specific, I'm new at this water stuff...
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Thursday, November 03, 2022 10:25 PM
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sixfive442 So I bought a EVGA 3080 12G 12G-P5-4879-KL, thinking it was a 12G-P5-4878-KL. I did not realize it until I prepared to install it. The main differences is the 4878 comes with the cooling fans, pump, hoses, etc. The 4879 is just the water block. Customer Service says sorry, but EVGA can no longer supply the missing parts, can not exchange the cards (listed as the same price on this site), or advise. I did find a 3rd party selling the EVGA 400-HY-1978-B1 conversion kit for the XCS for $185 US (it is no longer available on this site, even as B-stock). That includes the missing parts, but since it is a sealed system, it appears I would have to replace water block anyway? Anyone know of a better system upgrade? If so, please be fairly specific, I'm new at this water stuff...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3V64ZSsEI There's a lot of info out there on dedicated cooling loops. It's no more complicated than replacing the stock water block with an AIO or Hybrid kit. (which would likely be worse in performance) We'd need to know what case you have and other info to provide details. If you can build a PC, you can add a water loop.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Friday, November 04, 2022 0:24 PM
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sixfive442 So I bought a EVGA 3080 12G 12G-P5-4879-KL, thinking it was a 12G-P5-4878-KL. I did not realize it until I prepared to install it. The main differences is the 4878 comes with the cooling fans, pump, hoses, etc. The 4879 is just the water block. Customer Service says sorry, but EVGA can no longer supply the missing parts, can not exchange the cards (listed as the same price on this site), or advise. I did find a 3rd party selling the EVGA 400-HY-1978-B1 conversion kit for the XCS for $185 US (it is no longer available on this site, even as B-stock). That includes the missing parts, but since it is a sealed system, it appears I would have to replace water block anyway? Anyone know of a better system upgrade? If so, please be fairly specific, I'm new at this water stuff...
According to EVGA's product page, the 400-HY-1978-B1 kit doesn't work with the 12G-P5-4879-KL GPU. The 12G-P5-4879-KL is a FTW3 series GPU and that hybrid kit is for XC3 GPUs. You would need to get either a FTW3 compatible hybrid kit or build a cooling loop. You aren't the first person who purchased a hydro copper card by mistake. What computer case do you have? Would you be willing to build an open loop? Your other option is to sell the card and buy a different graphics card.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Friday, November 04, 2022 0:40 PM
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Thanks for the link! Currently have an Antec GX500 case, which is big and old, but newer than shown in the 10 yr old video, at least. Too bad about the EVGA kit, an open loop would be fine, with decent instructions. As for selling it, EVGA said I could return it for a 15% restocking fee.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Friday, November 04, 2022 6:18 AM
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Watercooling is a large upfront cost investment, especially if you do it right. It also takes some time to learn and figure out. I am very much an advocate for watercooling, but it's not for everyone. If you prefer to stick with air cooling the 15% restocking fee route might be your fastest, best option. That being said, another option is you can always try trade sites like https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/ where people will swap computer hardware for what they specifically wanted. You might even be able to trade it to your advantage there, but it's always an issue of timing and how long you want to wait.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 05, 2022 1:38 AM
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Thanks for the "You aren't the first person..." comment. Googled around, and several comments noted I could just buy the (sold by a third party) XC3 kit, two connectors, some extra coolant, and cut off the water block (thereby voiding the warranty). And a drill and some screws to mount the pump/fan unit on the card.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 05, 2022 2:28 PM
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sixfive442 Thanks for the "You aren't the first person..." comment. Googled around, and several comments noted I could just buy the (sold by a third party) XC3 kit, two connectors, some extra coolant, and cut off the water block (thereby voiding the warranty). And a drill and some screws to mount the pump/fan unit on the card.
you could do that, but honestly, doing that just to use an inferior AIO cooling kit makes zero sense in incremental $ spend and in time/materials plus loss of warranty just get a pump/res combo, some EDPM tubing, 4 fittings, some koolance 702 coolant, plug it all in and you're done. if you post some pics of your rig, it would be easier to recommend options.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 05, 2022 8:42 PM
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"just get a pump/res combo, some EDPM tubing, 4 fittings, some koolance 702 coolant, plug it all in and you're done." So I don't need the radiator and fans? Also, one U-Tuber warned against mixing the copper waterblock and an aluminum radiator (galvanic). True? (warned you'all I'm new to water cooling)
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 05, 2022 9:34 PM
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hey Six, youtuber is correct, mixing metals is bad. post a pic of your rig, lets lay it out. then you can decide the path. others might chime in too. you're right you need a rad and fans. I assumed you had fans already in your case, which you would reuse. either way you would need fans, whether AIO or custom loop.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Thursday, November 10, 2022 8:58 PM
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sixfive442 Thanks for the link! Currently have an Antec GX500 case, which is big and old, but newer than shown in the 10 yr old video, at least. Too bad about the EVGA kit, an open loop would be fine, with decent instructions. As for selling it, EVGA said I could return it for a 15% restocking fee.
The GX500 case really isn't designed for water cooling. You could build an open loop in one, but it wouldn't be optimal. Between the cost of a new case and the components to build an open loop, it could be a few hundred dollars or more. Even going with low priced components of good quality, it will be a minimum of $150-$200 for the loop. You might be better off returning or selling the card if you don't want to get a new case.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Friday, November 11, 2022 0:16 PM
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I agree. I took a long look at the Antec case, and while it has two 120 mm fans at the top, a radiator would impinge on the motherboard. I did find a pump with a square radiator (Corsair) which would fit inside the case, but that would still leave me with a small radiator and sticking out of the top. And far away from the fan slot on the video card. After much research, I have determined I am incapable of telling a good loop from a crappy one. Any loop/case recommendations?
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:44 AM
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If funds are not an issue, I'd use this opportunity to build a water cooling system. It is not hard if you are mechanically included. Otherwise, I'd send it back to EVGA and take the 15% hit and get what you want. I had tried for years and years to get what you mistakenly purchased. I finally got the 3080Ti Hydro in July (on sale) and I am sure it was easier to get this time because the prices were still high and folks were waiting for the new cards. I was waiting for the 3090Ti Hydro but they scrapped that idea. Then low and behold EVGA now no longer build GPUs.
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Re: Hydro Copper Cooling help please
Saturday, November 12, 2022 10:51 PM
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The HC cooling is unique, your mod would likely lead to horrible temps. Just .25mm off on the thermal pads I replaced on mine threw my temps off 15c. I agree with others that if you can invest in an open loop, do it. It's a great card.
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