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Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened

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Saturday, November 06, 2021 1:40 PM (permalink)
Hello

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So, I've just bought my very first GPU 3080 FTW3 Ultra but as I see there is an issue with thermal pad. I spotted it while unpacking GPU at my post office (I also captured the whole process to eliminate any problems)
As you see, thermal pad appears to be a little bit scattered

I do think this issue is not important to worry about but, nevertheless, could you tell me if it's okay?
I suppose this trouble with pad may have happened due to huge temperature difference while shipping (I live quite far in the north)

Should I replace it? This pad is not covering VRAM but something another, so I can't see how this issue may affect my temperatures inside GPU. May be it is covering some critical components

Thank you 




post edited by bronkk - Saturday, November 06, 2021 1:44 PM
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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 2:41 PM (permalink)
    I think it is fine.  Looks like they just put on too much, and the extra squeezed out like playdough.  I would not replace it.  You would only be increasing your chances of making other errors.  The stock thermal putty tends to work well.  How do you replace extra?  You cut it off and throw it away.
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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 4:52 PM (permalink)
    Check the temps in PX1. If one or two sensors are significantly higher than the rest, there’s a problem. If all temps are about the same, no problem. Otherwise, it just looks like there was an excess of thermal putty applied at the factory and it was squeezed out. Shouldn’t really affect performance but, again, check PX1.
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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 5:12 PM (permalink)
    I think its okay while playing NW

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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 5:52 PM (permalink)
    No problem

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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 6:03 PM (permalink)
    Temps look fine. With the 3000 series, EVGA started using thermal putty on some components and traditional thermal pads on the rest. The putty has been, as observed in several cases by concerned users, squeezed out of where it was applied due to excess, but it’s typically not an issue at all.


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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 6:08 PM (permalink)
    Thank you
    But as I see in GPU-Z there is 84C mem temp and 78C hot spot, while PW1 shows ~70C mem as I showed above
    Is it okay? Which data is more accurate?
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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 6:34 PM (permalink)
    Thermal putty, why not thermal pads in VRM ???

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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 6:53 PM (permalink)
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    Thank you
    But as I see in GPU-Z there is 84C mem temp and 78C hot spot, while PW1 shows ~70C mem as I showed above
    Is it okay? Which data is more accurate?

    This may help understand the hotspot temp: https://www.techpowerup.c...e-sensors-like-amd?amp

    Just take all temp readings with a grain of salt. They’re usually in the ballpark of being the true temp, but you’re still relying on software readings. They’re not as accurate as attaching a physical temperature sensor probe to a read point on the PCB and using something like a calibrated digital thermometer to get an accurate reading. Otherwise, you’ll notice variances in software readings like how you describe -- 70° according to PX1; 78° according to GPU-Z. It’s the same thing when it comes to power draw and software readings for that. Power was a sore point for some 3000 series users because they thought their cards weren’t reaching the max rated power, only to find out by using a clamp meter there was 20-30W more power being used than was reported by software.


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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Saturday, November 06, 2021 7:06 PM (permalink)
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    Thermal putty, why not thermal pads in VRM ???


    Better contact and conforms better to complex shapes with varying clearances due to varying manufacturing tolerances.  You put a bunch on and what isn't needed squeezes out (as you see in post #1); versus thermal pads which don't conform as much and create mounting pressure issues and gaps in other places.

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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Sunday, November 07, 2021 7:08 AM (permalink)
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    This may help understand the hotspot temp:

    Just take all temp readings with a grain of salt. They’re usually in the ballpark of being the true temp, but you’re still relying on software readings. They’re not as accurate as attaching a physical temperature sensor probe to a read point on the PCB and using something like a calibrated digital thermometer to get an accurate reading. Otherwise, you’ll notice variances in software readings like how you describe -- 70° according to PX1; 78° according to GPU-Z. It’s the same thing when it comes to power draw and software readings for that. Power was a sore point for some 3000 series users because they thought their cards weren’t reaching the max rated power, only to find out by using a clamp meter there was 20-30W more power being used than was reported by software.


    Am I correct, that, evga PX1 rely on physical sensors installing inside GPU? And thus, other GPU manufacturers do not have such plenty of physical sensors as EVGA has?
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    Re: Got new RTX 30x but some issues may happened Sunday, November 07, 2021 9:44 AM (permalink)
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    This may help understand the hotspot temp:

    Just take all temp readings with a grain of salt. They’re usually in the ballpark of being the true temp, but you’re still relying on software readings. They’re not as accurate as attaching a physical temperature sensor probe to a read point on the PCB and using something like a calibrated digital thermometer to get an accurate reading. Otherwise, you’ll notice variances in software readings like how you describe -- 70° according to PX1; 78° according to GPU-Z. It’s the same thing when it comes to power draw and software readings for that. Power was a sore point for some 3000 series users because they thought their cards weren’t reaching the max rated power, only to find out by using a clamp meter there was 20-30W more power being used than was reported by software.


    Am I correct, that, evga PX1 rely on physical sensors installing inside GPU? And thus, other GPU manufacturers do not have such plenty of physical sensors as EVGA has?




    I think what he is talking about is the difference between a sensor next to a chip vs. on the chip itself. If something was a problem though it would show on on the sensor near the chip but it might not be the same as if the chip itself had a built in probe.

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