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No PCIe Gen5 for "Raphael," Says Gigabyte's Leaked Socket AM5 Documentation

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Friday, August 20, 2021 10:02 AM (permalink)
No PCIe Gen5 for "Raphael," Says Gigabyte's Leaked Socket AM5 Documentation | TechPowerUp
 
AMD might fall behind Intel on PCI-Express Gen 5 support, say sources familiar with the recent GIGABYTE ransomware attack and ensuing leak of confidential documents. If you recall, AMD had extensively marketed the fact that it was first-to-market with PCI-Express Gen 4, over a year ahead of Intel's "Rocket Lake" processor. The platform block-diagram for Socket AM5 states that the AM5 SoC puts out a total of 28 PCI-Express Gen 4 lanes. 16 of these are allocated toward PCI-Express discrete graphics, 4 toward a CPU-attached M.2 NVMe slot, another 4 lanes toward a discrete USB4 controller, and the remaining 4 lanes as chipset-bus.

Socket AM5 SoCs appear to have an additional 4 lanes to spare than the outgoing "Matisse" and "Vermeer" SoCs, which on higher-end platforms are used up by the USB4 controller, but can be left unused for the purpose, and instead wired to an additional M.2 NVMe slot on lower-end motherboards. Thankfully, memory is one area where AMD will maintain parity with Intel, as Socket AM5 is being designed for dual-channel DDR5. The other SoC-integrated I/O, as well as I/O from the chipset, appear to be identical to "Vermeer," with minor exceptions such as support for 20 Gbps USB 3.2x2. The Socket has preparation for display I/O for APUs from the generation. Intel's upcoming "Alder Lake-S" processor implements PCI-Express Gen 5, but only for the 16-lane PEG port. The CPU-attached NVMe slot, as well as downstream PCIe connectivity, are limited to PCIe Gen 4.
 
AMD better not let Intel advance too fast with PCI-Express Gen 5 support. 
 


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    Re: No PCIe Gen5 for "Raphael," Says Gigabyte's Leaked Socket AM5 Documentation Friday, August 20, 2021 11:53 AM (permalink)
    It is surprising that AMD did not have Gen 5 in the AM5.  I wonder what the date of information is on that document that was released.  Was it a very early design?


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    Re: No PCIe Gen5 for "Raphael," Says Gigabyte's Leaked Socket AM5 Documentation Friday, August 20, 2021 12:03 AM (permalink)
    I wonder if the USB disconnect issue caused a hard look at performance and stability with PCIE Gen 5, and did I just read the I/O will be the same on the new CPUs? 12nm with a limit of around 1900 IF speed?
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