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Friday, January 04, 2019 1:48 AM (permalink)
After using the card for over a month at stock clock, I've decided to give a try at overclocking it.
After running Precision X1 scan, I got a score of 93, which is lower than I expected.
Still, if I try to overclock the GPU manually, I get crashes in Heaven at +75. Some games, like Hitman 2, crash as well (but not AC: Odyssey).
So, the sweet spot seems to be a +70.
On the other hand, I can overclock the memory to +700 without any issues (I haven't tried to go higher).
 
Is this considered normal? After reading several results online, I was expecting to get somewhere in the region of +150.
post edited by sym30l1c - Friday, January 04, 2019 1:52 AM

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 4:25 AM (permalink)
    Depends on how high your card boosts to on its own.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 4:38 AM (permalink)
    The overclocking is crap on these cards because of the voltage limits.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 4:39 AM (permalink)
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    The overclocking is crap on these cards because of the voltage limits.

    Mine hits 2.21 stable
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 1:00 PM (permalink)
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    Depends on how high your card boosts to on its own.



    I did some more testing. In Heaven, with fans at max rpm and max power:
    - At stock clock, I get up to 1965MHz, max temperature is 51C.
    - With +85 clock and +900 memory, I get up to 2040MHz, max temperature is 60C (and almost always below).
    If I increase the clock, it crashes at some point. If I increase the memory, there's no crash, but some strange flashes.
    The same happens with Time Spy.
     
    If I try the same settings in Fire Strike, it always crashes. It runs fine at +70 clock, +700 memory.
     
    Seeing some of the results other people are getting, I was honestly expecting to get better results.
    Granted, in games this is not gonna make much of a difference, but it's still a little disappointing.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 1:11 PM (permalink)
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    Depends on how high your card boosts to on its own.



    I did some more testing. In Heaven, with fans at max rpm and max power:
    - At stock clock, I get up to 1965MHz, max temperature is 51C.
    - With +85 clock and +900 memory, I get up to 2040MHz, max temperature is 60C (and almost always below).
    If I increase the clock, it crashes at some point. If I increase the memory, there's no crash, but some strange flashes.
    The same happens with Time Spy.
     
    If I try the same settings in Fire Strike, it always crashes. It runs fine at +70 clock, +700 memory.
     
    Seeing some of the results other people are getting, I was honestly expecting to get better results.
    Granted, in games this is not gonna make much of a difference, but it's still a little disappointing.


    Yea that is a bit low
    I have to rma my card, keeping my fingers crossed I get one that ocs as well
    I was 2185-2210/7900mhz stable. Hearing that some can't hit 2.1 reliably is disappointing
    Mine was 1985 and occasionally even 2 flat out of the box. +90 puts me at 2115

    Assuming you're at max power limit and voltage with the oc bios?
    post edited by xblackvalorx - Friday, January 04, 2019 1:14 PM
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 2:46 PM (permalink)
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    Yea that is a bit low
    I have to rma my card, keeping my fingers crossed I get one that ocs as well
    I was 2185-2210/7900mhz stable. Hearing that some can't hit 2.1 reliably is disappointing
    Mine was 1985 and occasionally even 2 flat out of the box. +90 puts me at 2115

    Assuming you're at max power limit and voltage with the oc bios?



    All the test I ran were with max fan speed, max power limit, max voltage.
    The tests I ran this morning were with normal bios though.
    Yesterday I ran similar tests with OC bios, but the results were similar, and apparently the OC bios only gets you a more aggressive fan curve.
     
    I'm surprised that just by putting +90 you get 2115, while putting +85 gets me only 2040.
    How did you test your card? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I have completely reinstalled the drivers and set the Nvidia settings to max performance.
     

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 2:59 PM (permalink)
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    Yea that is a bit low
    I have to rma my card, keeping my fingers crossed I get one that ocs as well
    I was 2185-2210/7900mhz stable. Hearing that some can't hit 2.1 reliably is disappointing
    Mine was 1985 and occasionally even 2 flat out of the box. +90 puts me at 2115

    Assuming you're at max power limit and voltage with the oc bios?



    All the test I ran were with max fan speed, max power limit, max voltage.
    The tests I ran this morning were with normal bios though.
    Yesterday I ran similar tests with OC bios, but the results were similar, and apparently the OC bios only gets you a more aggressive fan curve.
     
    I'm surprised that just by putting +90 you get 2115, while putting +85 gets me only 2040.
    How did you test your card? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I have completely reinstalled the drivers and set the Nvidia settings to max performance.
     


    It's all in the cards new self overclocking setup. When I first got it I thought it was a dud overclocker because I couldn't hit +150, until I realized it was because I was starting from a higher base.

    With the power limit is maxed along with voltage and I touch nothing else it goes well over 2.0
    Only takes +130 to see 2210
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Friday, January 04, 2019 3:31 PM (permalink)
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    It's all in the cards new self overclocking setup. When I first got it I thought it was a dud overclocker because I couldn't hit +150, until I realized it was because I was starting from a higher base. 

    With the power limit is maxed along with voltage and I touch nothing else it goes well over 2.0
    Only takes +130 to see 2210



    So, you're starting just by maxing voltage and power limit and you get over 2000MHz?
    Also, are you modifying any settings in windows and what benchmark tests are you running?
    I've tried the AC: Odyssey benchmark and even when I set +100, the most I got was 2055/2070 for a moment.
    I don't think I've ever got anywhere near 2100.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:22 AM (permalink)
    That's awesome brother! I am on HC block with a beefy beefy cooling, card does not cross 35 degrees, 2100 at best, 2080mhz is about the average, memory does go 8000 no issues.
     
    Unlucky maybe, idk. I am for sure upgrading to the Kingpin soon as that hits, or doing a mod to remove the voltage limit.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:30 PM (permalink)
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    That's awesome brother! I am on HC block with a beefy beefy cooling, card does not cross 35 degrees, 2100 at best, 2080mhz is about the average, memory does go 8000 no issues.
     
    Unlucky maybe, idk. I am for sure upgrading to the Kingpin soon as that hits, or doing a mod to remove the voltage limit.




     
    Looks like the lottery wasn't on our side. In some benchmarks I can get 2055 with some rare spikes at 2070, but that doesn't work everywhere.
    To achieve that I have to crank the power to the maximum and also all the fans (gpu+cpu) at max rpm as well to keep the temp under 60C.
    But that is just to push the card, and not something I would do for regular usage.
    In games I keep the overclock very conservative at +60 clock, +500 memory. I can raise it a bit more, but I prefer to be on the safe side.
    How much MHz I get in game, it depends on the game/settings, but it usually stays under 2000MHz.
    I might consider a water block in the future, but I don't think it's gonna make things much better.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:46 PM (permalink)
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    That's awesome brother! I am on HC block with a beefy beefy cooling, card does not cross 35 degrees, 2100 at best, 2080mhz is about the average, memory does go 8000 no issues.
     
    Unlucky maybe, idk. I am for sure upgrading to the Kingpin soon as that hits, or doing a mod to remove the voltage limit.




     
    Looks like the lottery wasn't on our side. In some benchmarks I can get 2055 with some rare spikes at 2070, but that doesn't work everywhere.
    To achieve that I have to crank the power to the maximum and also all the fans (gpu+cpu) at max rpm as well to keep the temp under 60C.
    But that is just to push the card, and not something I would do for regular usage.
    In games I keep the overclock very conservative at +60 clock, +500 memory. I can raise it a bit more, but I prefer to be on the safe side.
    How much MHz I get in game, it depends on the game/settings, but it usually stays under 2000MHz.
    I might consider a water block in the future, but I don't think it's gonna make things much better.


    The positive on my stable 2085 is that it doesn’t go down or bounce, steady 2085 benchmarks are above average still. I agree the silicone lottery is getting tiresome lol
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 5:42 PM (permalink)
    Im little bit disapointed with my card oc. Now stable at +80 core that brings me about 2075MHz at peaks and usually 2040MHz 😒 memory +800 didnt push higher. I have hydro copper waiting so maybe with that i can push higher oc but propably not much.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 5:48 PM (permalink)
    I am not sure what you guys were expecting, but there is nothing wrong with mid 2000 MHz core clocks. Have you read reviews? Only the lucky few get slightly above 2100 MHz. And the very few get mid 2100 MHz. Many top out at 2085 MHz.

    https://www.techpowerup.c...unders_Edition/36.html


    I was 2185-2210/7900mhz stable. Hearing that some can't hit 2.1 reliably is disappointing

    Yeah, sure....
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:52 PM (permalink)
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    I am not sure what you guys were expecting, but there is nothing wrong with mid 2000 MHz core clocks. Have you read reviews? Only the lucky few get slightly above 2100 MHz. And the very few get mid 2100 MHz. Many top out at 2085 MHz.

    https://www.techpowerup.c...unders_Edition/36.html


    I was 2185-2210/7900mhz stable. Hearing that some can't hit 2.1 reliably is disappointing

    Yeah, sure....


    Yea sure what? Lol
    Even at +55 mhz I get 2145
    Are you actually being salty at me for getting lucky on silicon?

    If you guys haven't figured out yet OC is kinda wonky on these cards.
    2145 @ +55 and 2210 @ +130 are just what it self boosts up to occasionally. At +130 I'm usually at 2185 and at +55 I'm usually at 2040, but it'll spike up an additional few mhz depending on scenario and how much voltage I'm cranking to it. That's just the new GPU boost set up from nvidia for ya.

    I'm gimped right now because I have to use afterburner as px1 causes crashes all over even at default, so without control of my fans I'm getting an extra 12c so I'm not pushing extra voltage for that extra 100ish mhz
    Hoping they get it running right soon so I can go back to 2185 constant instead of 2040
    post edited by xblackvalorx - Saturday, January 05, 2019 10:59 PM
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 0:53 PM (permalink)
    I'm not being salty.  I just don't believe you.  Let's see that 2210 MHz 3dmark link.  IF you really have a golden chip, you are fantastically lucky.  Please don't say things like "Yea that is a bit low" in comparison to yours.  If you look through reviews and 3dmark scores, you will see that 2040MHz, 2085 MHz, and 2100 MHz are very common max overclocks, and 2115 MHz is the upper threshold of "common".  Above that gets very rare.  The difference between 2040 MHz and 2085 MHz?  2%?  Not perceivable.  The difference from 2115 MHz and 2210 MHz?  Unbelievable.  "Stable" is too subjective.  Give us a link.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 0:54 PM (permalink)
    Time to post some links to your Fire Strike Scores and to your Time Spy Scores so we can all believe you.
    I will post mine if you all post yours.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:10 AM (permalink)
    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:14 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    Fair enough.  I see that you also chose to not provide proof 3 months ago.  I choose to not believe you.
     
    @ the OP, I think any core frequency between 2040 MHz and 2115 MHz is admirable.  I think you should be happy.  Especially, I think that the difference in performance between 2040 MHz and 2115 MHz is not perceivable.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:15 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    Fair enough.  I see that you also chose to not provide proof 3 months ago.  I choose to not believe you.
     
    @ the OP, I think any core frequency between 2040 MHz and 2115 MHz is admirable.  I think you should be happy.  Especially, I think that the difference in performance between 2040 MHz and 2115 MHz is not perceivable.

    Stay salty. I'm not a synthetic benchmarks guy, don't need to measure my epeen.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:19 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    I am not Lol, No need to be sour here on the Forums.
    Well that is kind of a bummer that I will not have a score to compare with on my new Hydro Copper Cards.
    Maybe you can create a  for us all to see this great rig.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:21 AM (permalink)
    Check out this video if you are having overclocking issues
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKqRz64eQD4
     

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:45 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    I am not Lol, No need to be sour here on the Forums.
    Well that is kind of a bummer that I will not have a score to compare with on my new Hydro Copper Cards.
    Maybe you can create a  for us all to see this great rig.


    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.
    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.
    I also only have one card so I don't think you'd get much of a comparison anyways, unless they let you see individual card scoring. But I wouldn't know, as I don't really partake in that stuff.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:49 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    I am not Lol, No need to be sour here on the Forums.
    Well that is kind of a bummer that I will not have a score to compare with on my new Hydro Copper Cards.
    Maybe you can create a  for us all to see this great rig.


    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.
    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.
    I also only have one card so I don't think you'd get much of a comparison anyways, unless they let you see individual card scoring. But I wouldn't know, as I don't really partake in that stuff.

    Then why are you even posting on EVGA's Forum?

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:50 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    I am not Lol, No need to be sour here on the Forums.
    Well that is kind of a bummer that I will not have a score to compare with on my new Hydro Copper Cards.
    Maybe you can create a  for us all to see this great rig.


    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.
    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.
    I also only have one card so I don't think you'd get much of a comparison anyways, unless they let you see individual card scoring. But I wouldn't know, as I don't really partake in that stuff.

    Then why are you even posting on EVGA's Forum?


    I wasn't aware this forum was only for benchmarking enthusiasts. Says 20 series cards on the header, I've got one of those from evga. Didn't know you weren't welcome if you only use your card for gaming instead of staring at a fancy number all day.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:53 AM (permalink)
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    Frankly I don't care what y'all believe. Lol.

    I am not Lol, No need to be sour here on the Forums.
    Well that is kind of a bummer that I will not have a score to compare with on my new Hydro Copper Cards.
    Maybe you can create a  for us all to see this great rig.


    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.
    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.
    I also only have one card so I don't think you'd get much of a comparison anyways, unless they let you see individual card scoring. But I wouldn't know, as I don't really partake in that stuff.

    Then why are you even posting on EVGA's Forum?


    I wasn't aware this forum was only for benchmarking enthusiasts. Says 20 series cards on the header, I've got one of those from evga. Didn't know you weren't welcome if you only use your card for gaming instead of staring at a fancy number all day.

    It is for enthusiasts in general or any other item of interest.
    Some call it Sharing of Information is all.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:53 AM (permalink)
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    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.

    Synthetics are used to reliably track a product's performance, health, and make comparisons.

    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.

    Maybe you aren't lying.  But, also, maybe you never properly tested the card.  You might even believe that your card was stable at such a high overclock since you never properly tested it in the first place.  You can't properly test it without having a test which performs validation and provides you a result for you to sanity check in comparison to others.  There is error correction and recovery which takes place behind the scenes which you would probably not even be aware of without a way to validate and sanity check your result.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:55 AM (permalink)
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    I've just never been one to care about stuff like synthetics.

    Synthetics are used to reliably track a product's performance, health, and make comparisons.

    I don't even see why y'all are in such a tizzy about it. Not like I gain anything from lying about it.

    Maybe you aren't lying.  But, also, maybe you never even properly tested the card.  You might not even know that your card isn't stable at such a high overclock since you never properly tested it in the first place.  You can't properly test it without having a test which performs validation and provides you a result for you to sanity check in comparison to others.


    If it can run a game like assassins creed odyssey at 98%~ load for hours on end it's pretty safe to say it's stable.
    Also as I've said but maybe need to re-clarify my constant max is 2185, rarely does it boost to 2210.
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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:56 AM (permalink)
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    If it can run a game like assassins creed odyssey at 98%~ load for hours on end it's pretty safe to say it's stable.

    Nope.
    There is error correction and recovery which takes place behind the scenes which you would probably not even be aware of without a way to validate and sanity check your result.
     
    I believe that you believed that it was stable.

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    Re: Overclocking Issues - 2080Ti FTW3 Sunday, January 06, 2019 1:59 AM (permalink)
    ty_ger07
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    If it can run a game like assassins creed odyssey at 98%~ load for hours on end it's pretty safe to say it's stable.

    Nope.
    There is error correction and recovery which takes place behind the scenes which you would probably not even be aware of without a way to validate and sanity check your result.
     
    I believe that you believed that it was stable.


    Well, that's fair. I was entirely unaware benchmarks also did that. I've always just went by how it acts in game.
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