remidian
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 430
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/9/2008
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Friday, November 30, 2018 10:09 PM
(permalink)
Just a random tin foil hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
post edited by remidian - Friday, November 30, 2018 10:13 PM
3080 FTW3 Ultra, Hero XIII, 11900k, Samsung 980 PRO 1TB, Acer XB270HU 1440p/144hz, Evga Supernova 1000w platinum. Heatware
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Friday, November 30, 2018 10:10 PM
(permalink)
remidian Just a random tin foily hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
One coming from EVGA?
|
remidian
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 430
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/9/2008
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Friday, November 30, 2018 10:14 PM
(permalink)
bcavnaugh
remidian Just a random tin foily hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
One coming from EVGA?
I probably should post this over on NVIDIA's forums. It's just something I was thinking about.
3080 FTW3 Ultra, Hero XIII, 11900k, Samsung 980 PRO 1TB, Acer XB270HU 1440p/144hz, Evga Supernova 1000w platinum. Heatware
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Friday, November 30, 2018 10:18 PM
(permalink)
remidian
bcavnaugh
remidian Just a random tin foily hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
One coming from EVGA?
I probably should post this over on NVIDIA's forums. It's just something I was thinking about.
It was a bummer when the next generation of Titans came out you could only get them from NVIDIA. I would hope that NVIDA would think that not only corporate want powerful graphics card some home users do was well. I am Not looking at this from a Mining Point. I do not mine for free money and never will.
|
EyeDeeNo
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 670
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/12/2017
- Location: 97km north of New York City
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 12
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 1:34 PM
(permalink)
Yeah but just think how stunning that tin foil hat would look with Turing architecture RTX graphics. Sorry, I'll go find the door myself.
Lenovo 710-25ISH IdeaCentre with an Intel Core i5-6400 ~ Win10 Home 64-Bit 21H2Lenovo 3642 Motherboard Intel H170 Chipset ~ BIOS FWKTA7A 11/7/2019FSP Group FSP250-30AGBAA 250w 80 Plus BronzeEVGA 04G-P4-6251-KR GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming VBIOS 86.07.22.00.50 ~ Precision XOC 6.0.9 ~ Game Ready 516.59G.SKILL F4-2400C15Q-4GNT Value DDR4 4x4GB KitCrucial CT1000MX500SSD1 MX500 SSD 1TB Firmware M3CR043 (Sabrent BK-PCBS) + Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102 Barracuda HDD 2TB Pioneer BDR-209UBK Blu-ray Burner ~ Firmware 1.54 10/7/2020AOC E2475SWQE 23.6'' 1ms TN 1080p 60Hz Monitor via Athena CLH-DP0612MM28 DP + Samsung UN32J5500AF 31.5'' TV via Belkin F8V3311B15 HDMICreative GigaWorks
|
Grendel0501
New Member
- Total Posts : 39
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/22/2018
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:22 PM
(permalink)
This is all my opinion. But... I don't think Nvidia is going to lower the prices back to $800 for the ti. The TI has now replaced the Titan and the main reason I think they did this was because no one bought the Titans. Most smart people would wait the 6-8months until a TI variant was released close to the *80 model but performace close to the Titan model. So Nvidia is basically forcing people who want the best to pay for the Titan, without calling it the Titan. Especially with Nvidias stock issues lately, I don't see them lowering model prices again. I think most gamers are trying to move up to 2k-144hz, looking for a card that hit 144fps in most games and being told that turning RTX features on cuts frame rates by 50-60% is a HUGE kick in the balls.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24080
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2013
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79

|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:34 PM
(permalink)
I wonder if this Time NVIDIA is going to Allow EVGA to customize and sale an EVGA RTX Titan Graphics Card.
|
AHowes
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
- Total Posts : 6502
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/20/2005
- Location: Macomb MI
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:47 PM
(permalink)
Nice.. RTX Titan at I bet $2999.99! Pocket change! Haha :/
Intel i9 9900K @ 5.2Ghz Single HUGE Custom Water Loop. Asus Z390 ROG Extreme XI MB G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) 4266MHz DDR4 EVGA 2080ti K|NGP|N w/ Hydro Copper block. 34" Dell Alienware AW3418DW 1440 Ultra Wide GSync Monitor Thermaltake Core P7 Modded w/ 2x EK Dual D5 pump top,2 x EK XE 480 2X 360 rads.1 Corsair 520 Rad.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24080
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2013
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:48 PM
(permalink)
I could definitely see nvidia keeping this one in house again. It would be mice if EVGA was allowed to sell them, but I bet nvidia sticks with the Titan never gets modified theory.
|
Stephenk291
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1023
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/12/2007
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 4

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:51 PM
(permalink)
Titan RTX for the low low price of 2-3 mortgage payments!
|i7 8700k @4.9Ghz| 64GB 3200mhz DDR4 Corsair RGB Pro |Asus Strix Gaming z390 |EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 | Corsair 500D | H105 Cooler | SuperNova 850G3   Associates Code E96KV2QZWOXVRZM
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Saturday, December 01, 2018 11:42 PM
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one I could definitely see nvidia keeping this one in house again. It would be mice if EVGA was allowed to sell them, but I bet nvidia sticks with the Titan never gets modified theory.
NVIDIA added RTX in the Name so I am thinking they well go back to the Gamers level of a Graphics Cards. I would take a EVGA RTX Titan Hydro Copper (EVGA Titan RTX Hydro Copper) over the RTX KP Hydro Copper, at least Dream a Little.
post edited by bcavnaugh - Sunday, December 02, 2018 0:16 PM
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24080
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2013
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 0:54 PM
(permalink)
Quadro went over to the RTX name in it, and EVGA doesn’t sell or modify those. RTX branding is reserved strictly for gaming.
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 1:07 AM
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one Quadro went over to the RTX name in it, and EVGA doesn’t sell or modify those. RTX branding is reserved strictly for gaming.
$ 6,300. 00 No Thanks, But I can still Dream
|
Hoggle
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 8899
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/14/2003
- Location: Eugene, OR
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 4
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 1:09 AM
(permalink)
I could see them going for a non-RTX model for like a 2060 and 2050 which wouldn’t have the power needed but are still important cards to have for 1080p gamers looking for a good value.
For a highend card though I think it would only hurt the RTX line to not make it seem the future.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24080
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2013
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:26 AM
(permalink)
bcavnaugh
the_Scarlet_one Quadro went over to the RTX name in it, and EVGA doesn’t sell or modify those. RTX branding is reserved strictly for gaming.
$ 6,300.00 No Thanks, But I can still Dream
My point was, don’t base the sale of the RTX Titan as a gaming card just because it has RTX in the title. Also, $6300 is the midrange rtx6000, not the top of the line rtx8000
|
zerocool101
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 473
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/19/2006
- Location: Wisconsin
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:56 AM
(permalink)
If this is truly NOT a gaming card according to NV, why would they even be giving these to the influncers to test? The marketing of these TITAN cards is a JOKE.
13900KS on Z690 Dark KP FE 4090
|
Hoggle
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 8899
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/14/2003
- Location: Eugene, OR
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 4
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 6:57 AM
(permalink)
zerocool101 If this is truly NOT a gaming card according to NV, why would they even be giving these to the influncers to test? The marketing of these TITAN cards is a JOKE.
Sometimes it’s because these are what games are made on as a sign of what the future might be like in a few years. Often times though they are not really that impressive on today’s games though.
|
MegaTimX
New Member
- Total Posts : 48
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/15/2018
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:22 AM
(permalink)
remidian Just a random tin foil hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
I highly doubt it as AMD is working on their own version of real them ray tracing , and now it is a feature imbedded in DirectX, as DXR. Ray tracing is the future of gaming, support will only grow. DLSS on the other hand may or may or may not be the future of gaming. Next gen consoles may support real timer raytracing Then people who chose to buy 1080 Ti cards instead of 2080 cards will have some nice paper weights.
post edited by MegaTimX - Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:24 AM
|
remidian
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 430
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/9/2008
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:14 PM
(permalink)
MegaTimX
remidian Just a random tin foil hat theory I had earlier that is probably 100% false. I don't know much about the architecture of the new cards. I'm assuming the RTX chip is adding to the cost of GPU's? Could NVIDIA make a faster GPU without RTX at a cheaper price? I was wondering how they are going to handle this Titan release and this idea popped into my head.
I highly doubt it as AMD is working on their own version of real them ray tracing , and now it is a feature imbedded in DirectX, as DXR. Ray tracing is the future of gaming, support will only grow. DLSS on the other hand may or may or may not be the future of gaming. Next gen consoles may support real timer raytracing Then people who chose to buy 1080 Ti cards instead of 2080 cards will have some nice paper weights.
We will see. I keep remembering PHYSX cards and other gimmicks from the past when I think about Ray tracing.
3080 FTW3 Ultra, Hero XIII, 11900k, Samsung 980 PRO 1TB, Acer XB270HU 1440p/144hz, Evga Supernova 1000w platinum. Heatware
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:19 PM
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one
bcavnaugh
the_Scarlet_one Quadro went over to the RTX name in it, and EVGA doesn’t sell or modify those. RTX branding is reserved strictly for gaming.
$ 6,300.00 No Thanks, But I can still Dream
My point was, don’t base the sale of the RTX Titan as a gaming card just because it has RTX in the title.
Also, $6300 is the midrange rtx6000, not the top of the line rtx8000
True, that price is was is list now on NVIDIA. They have not listed the new cards yet. Yes I see what you are saying about the use of the name RTX.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24080
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2013
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:30 PM
(permalink)
Nvidia is just being weird with their releases this generation.
They must’ve seen how the old titans sold as gaming cards, then they made the price of the volta so high that no gamer would be silly enough to buy it, then some gamers did, so now they are just exploiting people because they know they can.
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/19/2012
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 5:14 PM
(permalink)
There really is No other Graphics Card Company to counter them, Yet!
|
MegaTimX
New Member
- Total Posts : 48
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/15/2018
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Sunday, December 02, 2018 8:15 PM
(permalink)
remidian We will see. I keep remembering PHYSX cards and other gimmicks from the past when I think about Ray tracing.
Ray tracing has been in use for decades when it comes to professional level rendering. My wife works in the jewelry industry and virtually every web or magazine advertisement uses rendered pictures of jewelry rather than actual pictures. Real time ray tracing is as good as lighting can ever get. Once the technology becomes more efficient, developers become better at using it and cards become even more powerful, there will really be no turning back. Specially since it makes things easier from the standpoint of developers. It will get to a point where non-real time ray tracing cards will not even be able to play new games. I give it 3-10 years for that to happen. This is just my opinion of course.
post edited by MegaTimX - Sunday, December 02, 2018 8:35 PM
|
Flonkam
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 265
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 12/3/2018
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Monday, December 03, 2018 2:52 AM
(permalink)
MegaTimX I give it 3-10 years for that to happen. This is just my opinion of course.
Three years?!?! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAAA HAAA HAHAHA *Gasp* Sorry, but yeah..everything else you said I agree with :)
|
MegaTimX
New Member
- Total Posts : 48
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/15/2018
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Monday, December 03, 2018 4:04 AM
(permalink)
Flonkam
MegaTimX I give it 3-10 years for that to happen. This is just my opinion of course.
Three years?!?! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAAA HAAA HAHAHA *Gasp* Sorry, but yeah..everything else you said I agree with :)
If next gen consoles support real time ray tracing, do you think devs are going to go through all of the trouble to add "fake" reflections and lighting just for the few people who have graphics cards that are more than 5 years old? I'm speaking mainly about AAA titles of course. Before the August announcement no one even suspected that games would be getting real time ray tracing any time soon. No doubt AMD's next cards and Intel's 2020 cards will support ray tracing with DXR. Again, it all depends on how powerful the next generation of consoles turns out to be.
|
sparetimepc
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2413
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 11/13/2009
- Location: Altona, IL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27

Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Monday, December 03, 2018 10:05 AM
(permalink)
Chances are the RTX Titan will follow the Titan V and be more for high end computing and tasking, i would bet it will not be SLI or Nvlink capable just as the Titan V wasn't but i'm sure we will find out in a short period of time.
|
squall-leonhart
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2904
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 7/28/2009
- Location: Australia
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 24
Re: Next GPU release question. Will NVIDIA release a GPU without RTX? 100% Tin foil hat id
Monday, December 03, 2018 10:14 AM
(permalink)
the RTX Titan is still a 102 part, its not a 100 part like the titan v was so it has limited fp64.
CPU:Intel Xeon x5690 @ 4.2Ghz, Mainboard:Asus Rampage III Extreme, Memory:48GB Corsair Vengeance LP 1600 Video:EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 Founders Edition, NVidia Geforce GTX 1060 Founders Edition Monitor:BenQ G2400WD, BenQ BL2211, Sound:Creative XFI Titanium Fatal1ty Pro SDD:Crucial MX300 275, Crucial MX300 525, Crucial MX300 1000 HDD:500GB Spinpoint F3, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Red, 1TB WD Black Case:NZXT Phantom 820, PSU:Seasonic X-850, OS:Windows 7 SP1 Cooler: ThermalRight Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme
|