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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Wednesday, April 04, 2018 6:46 PM
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With Intel still supporting some older Xeon chips on X58, will EVGA issue BIOS updates for X58 boards once Intel issues the fix?
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Wednesday, April 04, 2018 6:52 PM
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If intel cut updates, there is probably a reason. If they found the threat to be nonexistent for some reason, there wouldn’t need to be an update. Did intel provide the reasoning for stopping the updates?
If intel provides updates, evga will probably provide updates.
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:46 PM
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The reasoning is pretty bogus, from an end user's perspective who actually uses a Bloomfield-based machine on a regular basis. See https://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-we-now-wont-ever-patch-spectre-variant-2-flaw-in-these-chips/ Intel says it stopped developing the Spectre variant 2 mitigations for at least one of three main reasons, including that it was impractical, the CPU was not widely supported, or that customers indicated the CPUs are running on closed systems.
"After a comprehensive investigation of the microarchitectures and microcode capabilities for these products, Intel has determined to not release microcode updates for these products for one or more reasons including, but not limited to the following:
- Micro-architectural characteristics that preclude a practical implementation of features mitigating variant 2 CVE-2017-5715.
- Limited commercially available system software support.
- Based on customer inputs, most of these products are implemented as 'closed systems' and therefore are expected to have a lower likelihood of exposure to these vulnerabilities."
CPU families that won't be updated include Bloomfield, Clarksfield, Gulftown, Harpertown Xeon C0, Harpertown Xeon E0, Jasper Forest, Penryn/QC, SoFIA 3GR, Wolfdale C0 and M0, Wolfdale E0 and R0, Wolfdale Xeon X0, Wolfdale Xeon E0, Yorkfield, and Yorkfield Xeon.
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:48 PM
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I, however, do not hold eVGA accountable for this - this is strictly in the hands of Intel, and it is their fault, and I'm hoping someone soon starts a class action against them on behalf of users of any of this 'discontinued' / EoL CPUs they now refuse to support.
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Friday, April 06, 2018 4:36 AM
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Sign me up for that class action lawsuit. My BLOOMFIELD i7-950 rig could use a upgrade.  I actually have 2 950s.
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Friday, April 06, 2018 5:38 AM
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i am kind of not shocked by Intel doing this. It seemed like a major headache to try to fix for older systems.
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Friday, April 06, 2018 3:48 PM
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RIP my poor 10 yr old E8400 cpu....! (Wolfdale)
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Monday, April 23, 2018 4:28 AM
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Mosesal
RIP my poor 10 yr old E8400 cpu....! (Wolfdale)
Yikes. It's definitely time for you to upgrade. 
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Re: Intel Stops Development, Deployment of Spectre Microcode Update for Several CPU Famili
Thursday, May 03, 2018 6:53 AM
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I think everyone knew there would be a cutoff point to which cpu's got updated microcode, and even though there are still these cpu's out there they are well past EOL and warranty status. It is unfortunate for those of us that still have these systems but I completely understand thier point, my x58 board sees very little use anymore so I'm not to worried about this.
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