EVGA

Helpful ReplyWhat's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands?

Author
rjrusso
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 206
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 11/23/2005
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:48 AM (permalink)
I'm almost man overboard and need some reasons why I shouldn't pick up the MSI Gaming X, ASUS Strix or Aorus Xtreme Edition instead of the FTW3 1080 Ti? I'll be running SLI and pushing 4K max settings as often as possible.
Considering the following:
 
Temp control - The FTW3 cooler seems smaller than others? How will it control the heat?
Size of cards -Do I loose PCIe slots? The others definitely cut off the PCIe slots below the cards, cant tell if the FTW3 does also?
Support Warranty - I believe EVGA support is second to none, but Gigabyte/Aorus has a 4 yr warranty of their Ti XE
I dont believe there will be great OC differences which equate to performance between the cards but noise at load is a factor also.
Reason for post: May 8th
 
I have a few days before I decide which bed to lay $1500 in. What are your thoughts on the 1080 Ti FTW3 vs the others?
post edited by rjrusso - Sunday, April 02, 2017 5:04 AM
#1
ipkha
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2308
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2/11/2015
  • Location: Indiana
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 6
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 4:29 AM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rjrusso Sunday, April 02, 2017 5:05 AM
You gotta edit your post. Can't curse even with wildcards.
Ftw3 is still a 2 slot card so it will not block extra pcie slots.
Not sure about the size compared to other cards, it is an inch taller and is longer as well.
I have no complaints about my 1080 FTW and the larger fans and heatsink are much better sounding than my 970 SC card.
SLI might be a stretch on air as there is a definite increase in heat on the top card, with a smaller card below the FTW I got 10 to 20 degrees extra heat on top card which would hurt clocks in SLI.


#2
redleader00
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 906
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 3/26/2009
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 7
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 4:34 AM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rjrusso Sunday, April 02, 2017 5:07 AM
Well, any of the cards you listed is gonna be a good card. Still, reasons to buy the FTW3:
 
Temp cotrol - First thing to know is that the size of the cooler is not the only thing that has an impact on the temperatures. The design, build materials and quality of those materials are important too. Also, some card designs are better for some cases and worse for others. There is one thing you can be sure of ... with the FTW3 if any component in your card is overheating you are gonna know because it has 9 extra sensors. That you won't find anywhere else.
 
Size of cards - I think all those cards take at least 2 slots (including the FTW3). I heard the Asus one uses 2.5 slots (in case that is a problem for you).
 
Warranty - Well, 4 years is really good, but if something goes wrong you are probably gonna wait at least 1 month to get your card back. With EVGA they send you one in around 3 days (since the date they receive yours). If you really want to have more than 3 years you can buy the extended warranty, but tbh, if something is wrong with your card you will probably find out before 3 years specially when you can check your 9 sensors and be sure nothing is overheating more than it should.
 
Can't say anything about noise with the new models, but the 1080 FTW2 I have is really quiet. I'm hoping the Ti FTW3 will be the same. Keep in mind that the FTW3 has asynchronous fans, so if your card temps are fine with the cpu fan at 70%, the memory fan at 50% and the power fan at 40% it will do that. Other brands will just put all fans at 70% and forget about it.
 
I think you are correct on your reasoning about the overclock. All brands will do similar overclocks on their "flagship" Tis. The biggest factor will probably be the luck you have with the specific chip that ends in your card than anything else.
 
post edited by redleader00 - Sunday, April 02, 2017 4:54 AM



 
 
#3
rjrusso
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 206
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 11/23/2005
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 8:19 AM (permalink)
Thanks gents, you bring up some good points to consider.  I think its a big deal that I wont be loosing a third, and forth PCIe slot by going with the FTW3.. If I end up going with any of the other cards I would have a single PCIe slot left, the FTW3 would give me 3 available. I'm running sli now with 1080s, from different brands and one is blower style which is the bottom card.  The other is the 3xfan which never gets above 72c while the blower is kept at 84C under load.  I kinda expect both FTW3's to run between 70c-80c OC'd under load but not sure what I'm drawing my conclusion from about the temps. The air flow in my case is like the Earth's jet stream so I think I wont have much trouble getting the hot air out, but will focus on the upper card.
 
The 9 temp sensors is nice on paper.. I think if I own it I will become very fond of it as well.  Having a sense of how the workload is spreading over the PCB will reshape my thoughts on OCing a bit, I believe. Which I would consider an added benefit to the FTW3 as well. Based on what I've read on the interwebs I have heard about long return shipping for RMAs on GPUs from various manufactures while consistent hearing positive experiences from EVGA and dealing with RMAs - I myself had an RMA get damaged in shipping a few years back and EVGA were extremely helpful, dealing with the post office so I could file an insurance claim(anyone willing to deal with the post office should be worthy of repeat business). I suppose my CC extends the warranty by an additional year.. and in 4 years we'll be playing on 8K displays with cards 3x as powerful so.. I guess that 4th year is moot.   I think I'm underestimating the asynchronous fans on the FTW3. It seems like all 3 fans spinning at lower RPM would prevent any 1 fan from spinning at a much higher RPM and that could be considered more efficient depending on what metric of efficiency you're measuring against (noise, power, life of fan, temp).
 
I honestly don't plan to get to the top of Mt Everest with the overclock so I'm not too worried about the binning of the silicon and and mainly just want to be to push to slightly above average OC while maintaining low temps with 100% stability. Its crazy to fathom I wont have the cards for another 40 days though after passing on 2 MSI Gaming X Ti's last night.. I'm purposely slow-moing through ME Andromeda right now but for 40 more days.. maybe I should take up the art of Bonsai.

#4
chrism101
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 549
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 5/21/2010
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 2:45 PM (permalink)
Customer Service Alone is enough to set EVGA ahead.


Aorus X470|Ryzen 3700 | EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW3| EVO 960| 
Water 3.0 360 RGB| Corsair 780T | 32GB Tident Z 3200 | EVGA G3 1000 


#5
ipkha
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2308
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2/11/2015
  • Location: Indiana
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 6
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:18 PM (permalink)
I had the following setup.
1080 FTW above a 970 SC. Keep on mind that the FTW is larger than the 970 and would allow it better airflow. The 970 kept a low temperature in the high 60s. The FTW ended up in the mid 70s, but was much quieter at max fan speeds. I could keep it down in the 60s if I maxed the fan speeds.
The 970 fans sounded like a turbine at full speed.


#6
zicr0
New Member
  • Total Posts : 8
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 11/5/2007
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:24 PM (permalink)
Why is EVGA releasing their cards a month after other brands?
#7
ipkha
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2308
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2/11/2015
  • Location: Indiana
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 6
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:30 PM (permalink)
zicr0
Why is EVGA releasing their cards a month after other brands?

Because EVGA does final checks and packaging in Brea California. You could also argue that EVGA takes their time to make sure the cards they design and sell are high quality. Other brands have facilities in Asia to do that work so they can ship to retailers direct from Asia.


#8
rjohnson11
EVGA Forum Moderator
  • Total Posts : 85038
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 10/5/2004
  • Location: Netherlands
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 86
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 3:44 PM (permalink)
ipkha
zicr0
Why is EVGA releasing their cards a month after other brands?

Because EVGA does final checks and packaging in Brea California. You could also argue that EVGA takes their time to make sure the cards they design and sell are high quality. Other brands have facilities in Asia to do that work so they can ship to retailers direct from Asia.

Quality is a major standard of EVGA and if that requires a little more time then that is what is best for the consumer.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X,  Corsair Mp700 Pro M.2, 64GB Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5  X670E Steel Legend, MSI RTX 4090 Associate Code: H5U80QBH6BH0AXF. I am NOT an employee of EVGA

#9
condemned5
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 131
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 10/18/2016
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 4:07 PM (permalink)
rjohnson11
ipkha
zicr0
Why is EVGA releasing their cards a month after other brands?

Because EVGA does final checks and packaging in Brea California. You could also argue that EVGA takes their time to make sure the cards they design and sell are high quality. Other brands have facilities in Asia to do that work so they can ship to retailers direct from Asia.

Quality is a major standard of EVGA and if that requires a little more time then that is what is best for the consumer.


agreed. worth the wait.
#10
rxlsoul
New Member
  • Total Posts : 23
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 8/17/2015
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 4:41 PM (permalink)
condemned5
rjohnson11
ipkha
zicr0
Why is EVGA releasing their cards a month after other brands?

Because EVGA does final checks and packaging in Brea California. You could also argue that EVGA takes their time to make sure the cards they design and sell are high quality. Other brands have facilities in Asia to do that work so they can ship to retailers direct from Asia.

Quality is a major standard of EVGA and if that requires a little more time then that is what is best for the consumer.


agreed. worth the wait.


Worth the wait in gold for sure EVGA stand out from other vendors on customer support and quality alone this goes for GFX and PSU from evga in my experience anyways

Intel Core i7 5930k | Asus Rampage V Extreme | Corsair H110i GTX | G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB DDR4 3000Mhz | EVGA GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ acx 2.0+ | EVGA SuperNova 750w G2 | Samsung 950 Pro 256GB SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD | Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD | 1 TB WD Nas Red | Corsair 900D Case |
 

#11
eatyourcarrots
New Member
  • Total Posts : 6
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 3/29/2017
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 5:52 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rjrusso Monday, April 03, 2017 7:50 AM
I've been wrestling with the same issue the OP has been having over the past several days. I was initially quite frustrated by both the lack of pre-order availability, and the fact that the "auto-notify" feature didn't work. This gave me time to consider other options (brands).
I'll initially be buying two 1080 Ti's, and likely a third down the road. It's not for gaming; they will never be in SLI. It's for CG rendering.
 
I've come to the conclusion that this 2.5-slot business that ASUS is purporting presents a pretty big risk that I won't be able to fit at least 3 cards on a motherboard. I'm sure it's a great card, but that is effectively a deal-breaker. Also, two DisplayPort/ 2 HDMI is off-putting for me. The FTW3 has better connectivity. Finally, I've bought EVGA cards for a number of years now and never had a problem. And if I did... no one seems to come on these forums complaining about EVGA support. In fact the opposite is true.
 
I'll just wait it out.
#12
valzero
New Member
  • Total Posts : 95
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 6/28/2009
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 9:21 PM (permalink)
I have been with EVGA since the 400's, upgrading every year. My only reason to stay is advanced RMA.

My  1080ti FTW sli was a failure. I exchanged cards twice, first it was still lacking vram cooling, the second card I received was just a used DOA card. Does anyone know of a manufacturer that doesn't replace their defective GPU's with used ones as an RMA?

7920x 4.8Ghz
32GB Samsung B 4000Mhz Cas 18 18 18 38
x299 Dark
EVGA 2080ti FTW3 SLI x16 x16
1TB Samsung NVME x4
2TB Intel NVME x4
 

#13
CAxVIPER
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2710
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 8/24/2011
  • Location: South FL
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 5
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 11:56 PM (permalink)
valzero
I have been with EVGA since the 400's, upgrading every year. My only reason to stay is advanced RMA.

My  1080ti FTW sli was a failure. I exchanged cards twice, first it was still lacking vram cooling, the second card I received was just a used DOA card. Does anyone know of a manufacturer that doesn't replace their defective GPU's with used ones as an RMA?


Everyone does that. You send in a used product you get back a used product. EVGA will replace it with a new one within 30 days of purchase or they use to. 
#14
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
  • Total Posts : 38516
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 9/19/2012
  • Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 282
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Sunday, April 02, 2017 11:58 PM (permalink)
This Forum.

Associate Code: 9E88QK5L7811G3H


 
#15
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
  • Total Posts : 24080
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 11/13/2013
  • Location: East Coast
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 79
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Monday, April 03, 2017 2:48 AM (permalink)
valzero
I have been with EVGA since the 400's, upgrading every year. My only reason to stay is advanced RMA.

My  1080ti FTW sli was a failure. I exchanged cards twice, first it was still lacking vram cooling, the second card I received was just a used DOA card. Does anyone know of a manufacturer that doesn't replace their defective GPU's with used ones as an RMA?


I think you meant 1080 ftw, not 1080ti, since the ti ftw3 hasnt been released.

All companies either send back the same or refurbished cards after an RMA, or everyone would RMA just to get new cards.
#16
sailorman50
New Member
  • Total Posts : 74
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 12/11/2014
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Monday, April 03, 2017 4:11 AM (permalink)
i currently have 2 evga 980ti's sc+ acx2.0 with a 28 inch gsync acer monitor. i was lucky and got a pre-order of the evga 1080ti FTW3 and to have to wait till may to get it. after doing the research and having evga for over 2 years now with no problems its the best for overall performance. I plan on testing the FTW3 stock air and then going liquid cooling for it. if i like what i see then will go sli. I imagine tho with water i will get my 60fps on 4k on 99% percent of ultra settings. Its just a waiting game now lol. The strix is a monster in width and check to make sure you can handle 2 on your mobo. I cant wait to see the numbers in June with all the comparisons. 
#17
kirokoda
New Member
  • Total Posts : 35
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 8/12/2008
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Monday, April 03, 2017 5:41 AM (permalink)
I always use EVGA for all my cards.. I once had an old 8800gt that was acting up after years of use and they even RMA'd that card... All my previous cards were sli'd and I never had any issue with them..that alone is worth staying with them.. Quality, customer service and owning their faults if there is one is a hard thing to find these days..just my opinion...
#18
Methodical2
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 562
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 3/24/2012
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Tuesday, April 04, 2017 10:45 PM (permalink)
I can put on a water block and if the card dies (not because of user error), I can get a replacement card with no problem, rather quickly.  In other words, I won't void any warranties doing my own waterblock.  The step up program.
post edited by Methodical2 - Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:22 PM

"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic"
 
BlackE
Case:  Caselab Magnum STH10
MB:  Asus X670E Hero
CPU:  Ryzen 9 7950x (EK-Quantum Vector²)
GPU:  Asus 4090 TUF OC (EK-Quantum Vector²)
Memory:  G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 (6000 @64gb)
Storage:  WD M.2 NVMe 2TB (OS), 2x4TB (Photography), 1TB (Games)
Fan Controllers: Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 XT & Octo
PSU:  EVGA 1200 P2
Monitor:  LG 48" UltraGear OLED 4k

 
#19
beekermartin
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 765
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 7/9/2007
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Wednesday, April 05, 2017 5:16 AM (permalink)
I haven't posted here in awhile but I'll add my $.02.
 
#1. It has 3 display ports. I am running triple monitors and I am disappointed MSI and ASUS decided to go with 2 DP and 2 HDMI ports on their custom cards. I know VR is the new thing but I like having three native display ports without needing adapters or conversion cables.
#2. Being able to monitor so many different temps is awesome and very helpful. I plan on adding an EK waterblock as soon as they are available. Being able to monitor every temp that is important is a very nice feature even for a custom water cooled loop. 
#3. EVGA customer service is excellent!
 
Those are my reasons. 

               
#20
wmmills
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4688
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 1/5/2006
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 40
Re: What's the most interesting reason for going to a 1080 Ti FTW3 vs. other brands? Wednesday, April 05, 2017 9:32 AM (permalink)
If you live in the U.S, Evga's customer service, step up and extended warranty options are the best reasons. If your outside the U.S, well....there customer service isn't as good and you might be better off with ASUS, MSI, or Gigabyte depending on which country your in.

MOBO: EVGA x299 Dark, CPU: I9 10900X, RAM: Patriot Viper RGB 3600 32gb, SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, M2: Samsung 970 EVO+ 1TB, PSU: CoolerMaster M2 1500, CPU HSF: EVGA 240 CLC HSF~ P/P EK Furious Vardar, G-CARD:EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming w/Hybrid kit and Noctua IPPC 3000 P/P, CASE: LIAN-LI PC-V2010B w/ Window mod, OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit, MON: Alienware AW3821DW

 New EVGA product? Register it NOW with this link:
http://www.evga.com/register/default.asp?affiliatecode=4QFQRAMOII
 Help Our Vets From K-2!
[link=https://strongholdfreedom
#21
Jump to: