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Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:18 PM (permalink)
Just wondering should i spend money on an another 770 or just wait til i can afford some 780's.  

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:24 PM (permalink)
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    Just wondering should i spend money on an another 770 or just wait til i can afford some 780's.  


    Not even close. IMO, you might as well wait until Maxwell is out or alternatively get another 770 to hold you over instead of getting SLI 780's.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:29 PM (permalink)
    Thanks, yeah i was thinkin if i needed extra power to run games like Battlefield 4 and other games for the next 4-5 years and was wondering will 4GB SLI 770's would hold until then.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:32 PM (permalink)
    or at least wait until i get my Amazon Store Card paid off again ^_^

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 0:15 PM (permalink)
    Dual 780s would wreck the 770s. The 4GB has no effect on the frames per second.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 0:45 PM (permalink)
    Wait until Maxwell
     
    I have no plans to get a second 770 or go for a 780 either
     
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    Dual 780s would wreck the 770s. The 4GB has no effect on the frames per second.

     
    Thats true if running the games like they are, but when you install texture pack mods on games, the 4GB 770 is still better to have then a 2GB 770 at least (I'm not saying that a texture pack will take the whole 4GB either, its just to have that bit extra vram needed over 2GB.)
     
    if the 770 was offered in a 3GB solution I would have got that instead but it isn't.
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 1:54 AM (permalink)
    Mind you that mine is  a SuperClock model 4GB 770.  I figure more vram the better, but i know the 780 has more cuda cores.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 3:26 AM (permalink)

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 11:20 AM (permalink)
    Well IMO if you can upgrade every time then go for it. but if you get the big boys now can you upgrade to the next gen after that? two 760s can keep up with all the graphics at high res just as good as any one card out and half the cost. Same price as one 780ti you can get 2 760s and 2 860s when available. Up to you its your money.


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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 11:27 AM (permalink)
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    Well IMO if you can upgrade every time then go for it. but if you get the big boys now can you upgrade to the next gen after that? two 760s can keep up with all the graphics at high res just as good as any one card out and half the cost. Same price as one 780ti you can get 2 760s and 2 860s when available. Up to you its your money.


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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 1:22 PM (permalink)
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    Anyhow...
     



    Source GURU3D
     
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_geforce_review,1.html
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    http://www.guru3d.com/art..._770_sli_review,1.html




     
    Whats not mentioned here is that Nvidia has optimized their drivers for the GK video cards for MAINSTREAM resolution rates. Ie: 1080-1440p. That is in reality what all these cards work best at. None of the cards in this generation are really powerful enough to run at anything close to 2160p. You in effect would need 4 of them to manage good frame rates.
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 3:25 PM (permalink)
    Loving the fps for crysis 3 on two 770's SLI vs two titans. Has to be an misprint.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 4:29 PM (permalink)
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    Wait until Maxwell
     
    I have no plans to get a second 770 or go for a 780 either
     
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    Dual 780s would wreck the 770s. The 4GB has no effect on the frames per second.

     
    Thats true if running the games like they are, but when you install texture pack mods on games, the 4GB 770 is still better to have then a 2GB 770 at least (I'm not saying that a texture pack will take the whole 4GB either, its just to have that bit extra vram needed over 2GB.)
     
    if the 770 was offered in a 3GB solution I would have got that instead but it isn't.


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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, March 17, 2014 7:00 PM (permalink)
    My pair of 770's run BF4 very good.  At 1440 I hold 90fps no problem with most settings on high.
     
     

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:26 AM (permalink)
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    My pair of 770's run BF4 very good.  At 1440 I hold 90fps no problem with most settings on high.
     
     


    which model are they Classified, SuperClock, FTW? 2gb or 4gb?

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:31 AM (permalink)
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    Loving the fps for crysis 3 on two 770's SLI vs two titans. Has to be an misprint.

    No it's not a misprint you're reading it wrong  The chart for the titans go up to 4K resolution the  770's don't
    I'm thinking of getting a 2nd 780 for my 4K monitor since that's the only time you'll ever slow down this card trying to max out Crysis or Assasin's Creed
    780's in SLI are the minimum that will cut it seems from the reviews I"ve seen. If you aren't running 4K res you really don't need a 2nd card IMO 
     
    "What I will say is that, in a game like Crysis 3, when performance starts dipping under the 30 FPS range, your ability to react quickly falls off very fast. Because this game requires a manual run-through, I was painfully aware on both the single-Titan and 770 SLI systems that low frame rates were getting me shot more often, forcing me to restart my run. Two 780s and Titans helped this issue immensely."
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:37 PM (permalink)
    In short a pair of 770/680's regardless of VRAM or OCing in SLI will not beat out a pair of 780's in SLI. You just cant overcome an extra 1500 CUDA cores, and a GPU set that is significantly more powerful.
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:41 PM (permalink)
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    My pair of 770's run BF4 very good.  At 1440 I hold 90fps no problem with most settings on high.
     
     


    which model are they Classified, SuperClock, FTW? 2gb or 4gb?




    Classified 4gb.  Also overclocked +100 on the cores and +50 on the memory.
     
     

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:09 PM (permalink)
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    Loving the fps for crysis 3 on two 770's SLI vs two titans. Has to be an misprint.

    No it's not a misprint you're reading it wrong  The chart for the titans go up to 4K resolution the  770's don't
    I'm thinking of getting a 2nd 780 for my 4K monitor since that's the only time you'll ever slow down this card trying to max out Crysis or Assasin's Creed
    780's in SLI are the minimum that will cut it seems from the reviews I"ve seen. If you aren't running 4K res you really don't need a 2nd card IMO 
     
    "What I will say is that, in a game like Crysis 3, when performance starts dipping under the 30 FPS range, your ability to react quickly falls off very fast. Because this game requires a manual run-through, I was painfully aware on both the single-Titan and 770 SLI systems that low frame rates were getting me shot more often, forcing me to restart my run. Two 780s and Titans helped this issue immensely."


    I run a 1080p 144hz monitor with Gsync.......and I wouldn't run anything less than a pair of GTX 770's in SLI if you want absolutely every game out currently to be played at or near max settings with smooth buttery framerates. I am currently running regular 780's in SLI and I still find a couple games have frame rates dip below 50-60fps with all settings maxed. A single 780 Ti even at 1080p just won't cut it IMO.
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:53 PM (permalink)
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    Loving the fps for crysis 3 on two 770's SLI vs two titans. Has to be an misprint.

    No it's not a misprint you're reading it wrong  The chart for the titans go up to 4K resolution the  770's don't
    I'm thinking of getting a 2nd 780 for my 4K monitor since that's the only time you'll ever slow down this card trying to max out Crysis or Assasin's Creed
    780's in SLI are the minimum that will cut it seems from the reviews I"ve seen. If you aren't running 4K res you really don't need a 2nd card IMO 
     
    "What I will say is that, in a game like Crysis 3, when performance starts dipping under the 30 FPS range, your ability to react quickly falls off very fast. Because this game requires a manual run-through, I was painfully aware on both the single-Titan and 770 SLI systems that low frame rates were getting me shot more often, forcing me to restart my run. Two 780s and Titans helped this issue immensely."


    I run a 1080p 144hz monitor with Gsync.......and I wouldn't run anything less than a pair of GTX 770's in SLI if you want absolutely every game out currently to be played at or near max settings with smooth buttery framerates. I am currently running regular 780's in SLI and I still find a couple games have frame rates dip below 50-60fps with all settings maxed. A single 780 Ti even at 1080p just won't cut it IMO.


    Yeah I was hoping to get away from running SLI since I just upgraded to a 780GTX from 2 460GTX in SLI  but apparently will have to wait for the next gen i.e. 880GTX to be able to run 4K smoothly on single vidcard it looks like

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:17 PM (permalink)
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    Loving the fps for crysis 3 on two 770's SLI vs two titans. Has to be an misprint.

    No it's not a misprint you're reading it wrong  The chart for the titans go up to 4K resolution the  770's don't
    I'm thinking of getting a 2nd 780 for my 4K monitor since that's the only time you'll ever slow down this card trying to max out Crysis or Assasin's Creed
    780's in SLI are the minimum that will cut it seems from the reviews I"ve seen. If you aren't running 4K res you really don't need a 2nd card IMO 
     
    "What I will say is that, in a game like Crysis 3, when performance starts dipping under the 30 FPS range, your ability to react quickly falls off very fast. Because this game requires a manual run-through, I was painfully aware on both the single-Titan and 770 SLI systems that low frame rates were getting me shot more often, forcing me to restart my run. Two 780s and Titans helped this issue immensely."


    I run a 1080p 144hz monitor with Gsync.......and I wouldn't run anything less than a pair of GTX 770's in SLI if you want absolutely every game out currently to be played at or near max settings with smooth buttery framerates. I am currently running regular 780's in SLI and I still find a couple games have frame rates dip below 50-60fps with all settings maxed. A single 780 Ti even at 1080p just won't cut it IMO.


    Yeah I was hoping to get away from running SLI since I just upgraded to a 780GTX from 2 460GTX in SLI  but apparently will have to wait for the next gen i.e. 880GTX to be able to run 4K smoothly on single vidcard it looks like


    4k smoothly? Not the next generation.........your dreaming......as I stated in another thread..........it would take 4 780 Ti's or 4 titans on a 4k monitor to EQUAL the PERFORMANCE of ONE 780ti or Titan at 1080p.
     
       You think the next generation of cards is going to give 4x the performance over whats currently out? No way........your at LEAST 2-3 years out wishing for that.
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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:20 AM (permalink)
    Yea good luck with that, my single 770 will struggle on just a few select games at 1080p already, so I know thier is no way a 780 can handle 4K, in your dreams.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Sunday, October 05, 2014 7:52 PM (permalink)
    I know this is a older link but i just have to say the frame rates for 4k monitors absolutely stinks...even with 2 780 TI cards. Now with the new 970 and 980's out you even need 2 of them to get reasonable frame rates at 4k.
    4K is dead to me unless it is a monitor over 40" in size....but even then the frame rates stink and with a monitor that big your eyes are going to travel a heck of a lot when playing a FPS or any game. now a 40+" 4k monitor for productivity makes sense but these 28-30" 4k monitors are a joke...so many font issues with different programs and such.
     
    The future is the 34" 21:9 3440-1440 ultra wide IPS monitors/panels. They are  very good on the gaming front with the extra peripheral vision, absolutely great colors with the full RGB spectrum, great viewing angles and they are awesome on the productivity front. Plus It looks beautiful sitting on your desk compared to a dual monitor setup. Actually A great multi monitor setup would be a 34" 3440-1440p primary display with a 15.6" USB3 powered 1080p display for your chatting, monitoring your system while gaming ETC. Like this

    ASUS MB168B+ Silver / Black 15.6" 11ms Widescreen LED Backlight Portable USB-powered LCD Monitor a full 1080p monitor that gets it's display signal and power from a single USB 3.0 as you secondary monitor. You can easily put it where ever you want, its light has a kickstand/case and beside it being so light and movable when your using it. But when your done using it unplug it and put it away and everything is pretty and neat again. The perfect secondary monitor to a super widescreen 21:9 34" IPS beauty.

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    Another Huge plus besides them being a very immersive experience the ultra wide 3440-1440 resolution is only around 4.85 million pixels per FPS where the 4k 16:9 "blah" 3840-2160 resolution is around a 40% increase in pixels at 8.3 million pixels per FPS. Making it easy to game on a 21:9 1440p monitor with my 4gb 770 classified cards and others with 780's and 780TI's and other slower cards then the new 980's and 970's. I do not know what everyone else think but 4k might be great for big fat TV's but as of now they have no place in the computer world unless your a doctor and need a display for medical purposes, or maybe designing CPU's and SOC's and motherboards and stuff like that were buttloads of traces have to be made.

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    Re: Two 4GB GTX 770 Superclocked beat Two 3GB GTX 780 stock? Monday, October 06, 2014 10:15 AM (permalink)
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    I know this is a older link but i just have to say the frame rates for 4k monitors absolutely stinks...even with 2 780 TI cards. Now with the new 970 and 980's out you even need 2 of them to get reasonable frame rates at 4k.
    4K is dead to me unless it is a monitor over 40" in size....but even then the frame rates stink and with a monitor that big your eyes are going to travel a heck of a lot when playing a FPS or any game. now a 40+" 4k monitor for productivity makes sense but these 28-30" 4k monitors are a joke...so many font issues with different programs and such.
     
    The future is the 34" 21:9 3440-1440 ultra wide IPS monitors/panels. They are  very good on the gaming front with the extra peripheral vision, absolutely great colors with the full RGB spectrum, great viewing angles and they are awesome on the productivity front. Plus It looks beautiful sitting on your desk compared to a dual monitor setup. Actually A great multi monitor setup would be a 34" 3440-1440p primary display with a 15.6" USB3 powered 1080p display for your chatting, monitoring your system while gaming ETC. Like this

    ASUS MB168B+ Silver / Black 15.6" 11ms Widescreen LED Backlight Portable USB-powered LCD Monitor a full 1080p monitor that gets it's display signal and power from a single USB 3.0 as you secondary monitor. You can easily put it where ever you want, its light has a kickstand/case and beside it being so light and movable when your using it. But when your done using it unplug it and put it away and everything is pretty and neat again. The perfect secondary monitor to a super widescreen 21:9 34" IPS beauty.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236381&cm_re=1080p_USB-powered_Monitor-_-24-236-381-_-Product if anyone is interested.
     
     
    Another Huge plus besides them being a very immersive experience the ultra wide 3440-1440 resolution is only around 4.85 million pixels per FPS where the 4k 16:9 "blah" 3840-2160 resolution is around a 40% increase in pixels at 8.3 million pixels per FPS. Making it easy to game on a 21:9 1440p monitor with my 4gb 770 classified cards and others with 780's and 780TI's and other slower cards then the new 980's and 970's. I do not know what everyone else think but 4k might be great for big fat TV's but as of now they have no place in the computer world unless your a doctor and need a display for medical purposes, or maybe designing CPU's and SOC's and motherboards and stuff like that were buttloads of traces have to be made.


    Agreed!! Loving my LG 34UM95 so far....if you're interested in my benchmark scores, check out the 780 6GB Sticky thread. Bear in mind, I had a metric crapton of background processes running LOL. I also included 2560X1440 and 1920X1080 scores so people could get a general idea of the FPS changes they might see between the different resolutions. But in my opinion, 21:9 is an amazing format! My biggest problem is I keep losing track of my mouse pointer in the vast amount of real estate LOL! But that's probably a function of me needing new glasses >.<
     
    You have my attention with the USB secondary monitor idea. I'll think about that.
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