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Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput

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Monday, December 09, 2013 3:09 PM (permalink)
Ok I realise that saving $ 3.95 a month since that's price to pay IP providers extra a month. Not paying this modem is better in the long run. I being doing my own ports for Games I realized is ten times better using freaking ports than regular windows way of transffering data since i being doing ports is like night & day difference. ok so here's one Modem I being looking at. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825153007
Model is Cisco Modem LDPC 3010 DocSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
Tell Input need to know if any better Modem's out there. Just a heads up Netgear is off the table those are piece of crap anyways. there firmware is the most poorly written software i ever known.

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    Holo
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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Monday, December 09, 2013 3:32 PM (permalink)
    I rent my modem from my ISP. I am also a networking major. I've learned that having your own equipment isn't a great idea in the long run.
     
    The main advantage to paying an ISP for a modem is that you are never responsible regardless of how that modem fails, whereas a modem you own is your responsibility to authenticate, update, and maintain(or replace in the case of failure) not to mention if a new standard comes out your tech becomes obsolete. Twice now my ISP sent me a new modem due to improved firmware and hardware with a better revision. They sent me an email stating new modem came in, and all I did was plug it in.
     
    With that modem being 80 bucks it would be at least 2 years before you recoup the cost, and if you change ISPs and have to move away from cable, that modem becomes obsolete.
     
    Also, I am unsure what you mean by doing your own ports as that makes no sense to me. I do my own port forwarding, and QoS on my personal router which is running DDWRT. My modem is simply that, it modulates data from my ISP to my router, and from my router back to my ISP. Otherwise, all routing, filtering, ACLs, and static routing paths are inputted by me and managed at my own discretion. My modem's routing functionality has been disabled, it literally forwards everything including the IP to my router, and does nothing more than passthrough for data being sent.
     
    If TLDR, not worth the investment realistically.
     
    Feel free to PM me if you have any networking questions.
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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Monday, December 09, 2013 4:06 PM (permalink)
    Holo
    I rent my modem from my ISP. I am also a networking major. I've learned that having your own equipment isn't a great idea in the long run.
     
    The main advantage to paying an ISP for a modem is that you are never responsible regardless of how that modem fails, whereas a modem you own is your responsibility to authenticate, update, and maintain(or replace in the case of failure) not to mention if a new standard comes out your tech becomes obsolete. Twice now my ISP sent me a new modem due to improved firmware and hardware with a better revision. They sent me an email stating new modem came in, and all I did was plug it in.
     
    With that modem being 80 bucks it would be at least 2 years before you recoup the cost, and if you change ISPs and have to move away from cable, that modem becomes obsolete.
     
    Also, I am unsure what you mean by doing your own ports as that makes no sense to me. I do my own port forwarding, and QoS on my personal router which is running DDWRT. My modem is simply that, it modulates data from my ISP to my router, and from my router back to my ISP. Otherwise, all routing, filtering, ACLs, and static routing paths are inputted by me and managed at my own discretion. My modem's routing functionality has been disabled, it literally forwards everything including the IP to my router, and does nothing more than passthrough for data being sent.
     
    If TLDR, not worth the investment realistically.
     
    Feel free to PM me if you have any networking questions.




    I disagree entirely. And FWIW, I was also a network administrator for a number of years.
     
    My ISP (TWC) began charging me $6.99/mo for modem rental only a few months ago. Cable is cable is cable, all large cable ISP's use the same DOCSIS specs for handshake, and all DOCSIS modems are backward compatible, so really any DOCSIS 3.0 modem will work with any large ISP. And at $7/mo, after buying my own for $80, I'll break even in one year. Furthermore, if you consider that broadband speeds have increased in a downwardly exponential curve (i.e. have nearly flat-lined) in America for the past several years, the chances of your ISP pushing beyond the capabilities of an average DOCSIS 3.0 modem within that break-even window is absolutely zero. Even if it takes you 2 years to pay off your modem, you'll still never see faster cable throughput speeds than it can support.
     
    OP, buying your own cable modem is 100% worth the cost. The only thing I'd change about your original post is your selection of modem. This is the one I bought, and I am EXTREMELY happy with it thus far. It supports stupid fast speeds (300mbps down, 100mbps up), is rock solid stable, and is pretty cheap:
     
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825390001&Tpk=motorola%20sb6141
     
    Keep in mind, you'll need a dedicated router when you buy a dedicated modem. Your first post didn't seem very clear, but it sounds like you might currently have a combination modem/router that you're currently using, which neither the modem you linked to or the one I linked to will replace 1 to 1.
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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Monday, December 09, 2013 4:31 PM (permalink)
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    Holo
    I rent my modem from my ISP. I am also a networking major. I've learned that having your own equipment isn't a great idea in the long run.
     
    The main advantage to paying an ISP for a modem is that you are never responsible regardless of how that modem fails, whereas a modem you own is your responsibility to authenticate, update, and maintain(or replace in the case of failure) not to mention if a new standard comes out your tech becomes obsolete. Twice now my ISP sent me a new modem due to improved firmware and hardware with a better revision. They sent me an email stating new modem came in, and all I did was plug it in.
     
    With that modem being 80 bucks it would be at least 2 years before you recoup the cost, and if you change ISPs and have to move away from cable, that modem becomes obsolete.
     
    Also, I am unsure what you mean by doing your own ports as that makes no sense to me. I do my own port forwarding, and QoS on my personal router which is running DDWRT. My modem is simply that, it modulates data from my ISP to my router, and from my router back to my ISP. Otherwise, all routing, filtering, ACLs, and static routing paths are inputted by me and managed at my own discretion. My modem's routing functionality has been disabled, it literally forwards everything including the IP to my router, and does nothing more than passthrough for data being sent.
     
    If TLDR, not worth the investment realistically.
     
    Feel free to PM me if you have any networking questions.




    I disagree entirely. And FWIW, I was also a network administrator for a number of years.
     
    My ISP (TWC) began charging me $6.99/mo for modem rental only a few months ago. Cable is cable is cable, all large cable ISP's use the same DOCSIS specs for handshake, and all DOCSIS modems are backward compatible, so really any DOCSIS 3.0 modem will work with any large ISP. And at $7/mo, after buying my own for $80, I'll break even in one year. Furthermore, if you consider that broadband speeds have increased in a downwardly exponential curve (i.e. have nearly flat-lined) in America for the past several years, the chances of your ISP pushing beyond the capabilities of an average DOCSIS 3.0 modem within that break-even window is absolutely zero. Even if it takes you 2 years to pay off your modem, you'll still never see faster cable throughput speeds than it can support.
     
    OP, buying your own cable modem is 100% worth the cost. The only thing I'd change about your original post is your selection of modem. This is the one I bought, and I am EXTREMELY happy with it thus far. It supports stupid fast speeds (300mbps down, 100mbps up), is rock solid stable, and is pretty cheap:
     
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825390001&Tpk=motorola%20sb6141
     
    Keep in mind, you'll need a dedicated router when you buy a dedicated modem. Your first post didn't seem very clear, but it sounds like you might currently have a combination modem/router that you're currently using, which neither the modem you linked to or the one I linked to will replace 1 to 1.


    Consider my scenario which is not a far fetched scenario. To claim your modem will be supported on any ISP is a far fetched idea. Reason I mentioned this is FTTP(Fiber to the prem) uses 802.1x, which isn't something a cable modem will support - I have the option of FTTP at my location, and that modem would not work for me. I currently have DSL as its the most reliable service I can get here at the moment(when I move the story will be different as I will be going back to cable.) Docsis would not help me any in this scenario. Lastly if you move from a cable area to a DSL, Fiber to the prem, or Fios area you will not be able to use your DOCSIS modem.
     
    Likewise if your modem goes out on you(i've used the same modem on cable for 5 years with no failures luckily) you're gonna shell out another 80 bucks for a modem(with two day amazon shipping/wait) or more at a local store like best buy making it a not so worth it investment in my opinion.
     
    Heck if you are ever forced to go to U-verse you won't be able to use a plain old dsl modem as that authenticates via 802.1x which is mac based authentication.
     


      


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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:26 AM (permalink)
    Read all Holo if u ever lived in Florida especially Orlando,FL here you have no rights under the Law if it breaks evenif is not you're fault what so ever is at the discretion of the IP providers if they charge ya or not. So far for me they know i'm tech savi on any electronics any of the ones that went bad they gladly replaced free other folks I come across have not being so fortunate.
    Ports Ports Ports I was not gonna go in detail explain what ports I used since everyone that does this type of stuff would know answer to that. I am great full for the input Holo at the moment I did say i was planning to buy one don't have one Yet the Router I already have.
     
    srtie4k thanks for the link I Never consider Motorola & i am gonna read & find out about Motorola Modem's
     Holo I am great full like i said but it is best I get my own Modem besides we only live once.

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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:46 AM (permalink)
     
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    Re: Modem's Modem's. Being looking at buying my own. Need Imput Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:44 AM (permalink)
    Thanks Xray man for moving right spot. I was like oh no my thread being lock Articeagle is to blame

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