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Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:18 PM
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Hey gang,
So the time is getting close now - have all the components and will be beginning my new X79 Dark build on the 16th, a week from Monday.
On this EUFI thing, is there anything I need to know when setting it up for that? I will be using Samsung 840 Pro SSD's, and installing Windows 8.1 on it.
I know I first will need to set the drives to AHCI. Anything else I should know prior to getting it set up initially?
Thanks for any tips,
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:35 PM
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Yes, make sure you disable CSM. If you're not able to boot with that off then enable it and try running each device as UEFI and switch one device at a time to legacy boot. In case there is a device that isn't UEFI compatible. 
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:39 PM
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If you're SLIing EVGA 780s, put the one with the newer BIOS in the top slot. I know, it's really specific advice, but it was a gotcha on my system with CSM off.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:55 PM
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Thanks for the info guys!
Not running sli.
Ok so I need to set the devices as show above for UEFI before doing anything else?
Just for clarification, what is CSM?
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:23 AM
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:25 AM
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I agree with the advice given here and must tell everyone that with a fresh install Windows should give you an option to format the drive correctly. Since you are using SSDs there should not be an issue but if using RAID make sure you set that up first.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:42 AM
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Yes will be doing a fresh install of Windows 8.1 on a Samsung 840 Pro 256 gb SSD.
No raid, no sli.
Thanks for all the help guys, trying to make sure I am as prepared as I can be so hopefully get it right the first time.
Thanks for the link doorules, have it bookmarked and will be reading up on it between now and the 16th.
Still curious though, what exactly is CSM?
Thanks,
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 1:08 PM
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CSM is Compatibility Support Module, provides support for traditional legacy bios, as opposed to UEFI. Just a bios setting but it can trip up install.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:40 PM
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Thanks doorules, now I understand. Fwiw, below is what will make up my new system: EVGA X79 Dark Intel I7 4820K Corsair H100i cooler Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 MHz 1.5v quad channel ram - 16 gb ( 4x4). EVGA GTX 770 FTW 4gb video card Samsung 840 Pro SSD's - 256 gb - 2 ea ( not running raid) - ( use for OS, applications on one, games ). Windows 8.1 64 bit NZXT Phantom 820 Case Components I will bring over from current setup: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro PCIe soundcard 1 ea WD 7200 rpm hard drive - 1TB ( use for data) 1 ea WD 7200 rpm hard drive - 500gb ( use for data) Logitech G19 keyboard Logitech G400 Mouse Corsair HX1000 modular 1000w power supply Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 sound system Track IR5 T minus 8 days and counting :)
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:15 PM
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d.burnette
Thanks for the info guys!
Not running sli.
Ok so I need to set the devices as show above for UEFI before doing anything else?
Just for clarification, what is CSM?
Yes
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:17 PM
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doorules
You will also need to format your OS drive in GPT form and not the typical MBR.
Anything and everything can be found here in terms of ssd's and setups bud.
http://www.overclock.net/...rage-essentials-thread
This is not true. Windows 8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and format the drive accordingly. you just need to boot off of your win8.1 drive and go through the regular partition setup.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:42 PM
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dustingg
doorules
You will also need to format your OS drive in GPT form and not the typical MBR.
Anything and everything can be found here in terms of ssd's and setups bud.
http://www.overclock.net/...rage-essentials-thread
This is not true.
Windows 8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and format the drive accordingly.
you just need to boot off of your win8.1 drive and go through the regular partition setup.
Yes that is correct and then it should work. If you have any problems just let us know.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Sunday, December 08, 2013 4:46 PM
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rjohnson11
dustingg
Windows 8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and format the drive accordingly.
you just need to boot off of your win8.1 drive and go through the regular partition setup.
Yes that is correct and then it should work. If you have any problems just let us know.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate this - a week from tomorrow you may very well be hearing from me :) Hopefully it all goes smoothly - have been building these things for many, many years - however I find the older I get, the tougher it gets .
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Monday, December 09, 2013 8:04 AM
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doorules
You will also need to format your OS drive in GPT form and not the typical MBR.
Anything and everything can be found here in terms of ssd's and setups bud.
http://www.overclock.net/...rage-essentials-thread
This is not true.
Windows 8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and format the drive accordingly.
you just need to boot off of your win8.1 drive and go through the regular partition setup.
Thanks for the heads up bud. Is this done under CSM legacy settings? Only uefi installs I have done have been under the GPT form. Not sure why you would want to go uefi and not gpt also.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Monday, December 09, 2013 2:16 PM
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doorules
dustingg
doorules
You will also need to format your OS drive in GPT form and not the typical MBR.
Anything and everything can be found here in terms of ssd's and setups bud.
http://www.overclock.net/...rage-essentials-thread
This is not true.
Windows 8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and format the drive accordingly.
you just need to boot off of your win8.1 drive and go through the regular partition setup.
Thanks for the heads up bud. Is this done under CSM legacy settings? Only uefi installs I have done have been under the GPT form. Not sure why you would want to go uefi and not gpt also.
If you turn off CSM and go to install a fresh OS (windows 8 or 8.1) (windows 7 doesn't support UEFI) the MB is now setup in full UEFI mode and win8.1 will create a UEFI MBR and partition the Drive accordingly. UEFI isn't just the UI shell it also allows the hardware to boot faster and the initialization process of devices isn't constricted to the OS and the old 16bit BIOS. GPT is just a seperate shell (BIOS) there only benefit your from that is a custom UI. Not sure if your Shell/GPT support UEFI hardware settings.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Monday, December 09, 2013 7:58 PM
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If you're using a brand new drive, and follow the instructions above, GPT will be created automatically. If it's not a new drive, but you delete all of the partitions in Windows setup, you'll be taken care of automatically as well. Just make sure CSM is off before you run Windows setup. It's just a type of partition map is all.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Monday, December 09, 2013 9:43 PM
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Thanks guys, it will be a brand new SSD I will be installing Windows 8.1 64 bit on.
So basically when I first post, go in and disable CSM, then boot from the Windows 8.1 dvd and install. ( unless I have to mess with memory timings first to get it going I guess).
Thanks,
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:25 AM
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I recommend installing before doing any memory setting changes. You don't want to find out you're unstable halfway through an OS install.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:30 AM
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I recommend installing before doing any memory setting changes. You don't want to find out you're unstable halfway through an OS install.
Thanks yeah if it posts fine and seems to be ok, that is probably what I will do. Thanks,
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:06 PM
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Thanks guys, it will be a brand new SSD I will be installing Windows 8.1 64 bit on.
So basically when I first post, go in and disable CSM, then boot from the Windows 8.1 dvd and install. ( unless I have to mess with memory timings first to get it going I guess).
Thanks,
correct. unless you unable to POST with CSM off.
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Re: About this UEFI thing
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:13 PM
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d.burnette
Thanks guys, it will be a brand new SSD I will be installing Windows 8.1 64 bit on.
So basically when I first post, go in and disable CSM, then boot from the Windows 8.1 dvd and install. ( unless I have to mess with memory timings first to get it going I guess).
Thanks,
correct. unless you unable to POST with CSM off.
Thanks dusting - won't be long now, T-6 days and counting :)
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