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Something fundamentally wrong with Precision

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Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:28 AM (permalink)
Just popped in to say this. There is something fundamentally wrong with Precision.
I have an EVGA GTX 470 with the Forceware 296.10 drivers and no Precision version works.
They both cause freezing of the PC, however Afterburner works perfectly.
Why ?!
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:52 AM (permalink)
    This is the first I have seen any issue with freezing.
     
    Freezing happens when application starts?


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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:52 AM (permalink)
    Interesting, I don't get freezing, but the new precision actually caused my computer to get a BSOD earlier today as soon as I turned the pc on. When I analyzed the dump file it said it was caused by precision. I have a GTX 570 HD SC edition GPU and this was the first BSOD caused by precision, I just updated to the new precision, but I'm going back to the legacy version.
    post edited by doug04 - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:55 AM
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:43 AM (permalink)
    Yes it will slow down the PC a bit on start up and get progressively worse with the process using up loads of CPU. 
    Then eventually the whole screen will freeze and I have to reset. Clean installing the drivers again doesn't fix the issue, but Precision 2.1.2 worked fine on the PC with older drivers (285.62). But only Afterburner runs on the 296.10 drivers.
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:10 AM (permalink)
    im using a GTX 570 SC and i just reverted back to presicion 212. I had already noticed that Precision X was dynamically/randomly changing the gpu mhz speed going as low as 50mhz on desktop but it wasnt untill i played Dawn of war Retribution that i had to uninstall it and go back to presicion 212.
     
    I have my 570 fan set to 70% and it always kept it at less than 60 celsius and i cant really hear the fan, but for some reason when i played one hour ago i could hear the fan even over my headphones, so i alt tabbed and sure enough it says 91 celsius.
    This never happened b4 atall with no other games not even DoW , the only thing that has changed is i installed presicion x yesterday, and while the overheating didnt show up in Bad Company 2 but it did on DoW.
    So as i said i went back to presicion 212 never had that problem with it.
    post edited by SDE Bellisarius - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:24 AM

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:41 AM (permalink)
    percision X sucks for anything thats not a 680
     
    just revert back, freezing tho could be a bad OC running after application lunches
      uninstall percision , delete the EVGA folder from programfiles (x86 )
    then re install
     
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:09 AM (permalink)
    Nothing is overclocked, it's a stock GTX 470 it has never been overclocked.  
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM (permalink)
    interesting, i have zero issues with precision x and 570 cards ... runs same good as afterburner did...

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:38 PM (permalink)
    no issue with a qx9770 and a 480 oc'ed with Precision X here

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:54 PM (permalink)
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    im using a GTX 570 SC and i just reverted back to presicion 212. I had already noticed that Precision X was dynamically/randomly changing the gpu mhz speed going as low as 50mhz on desktop but it wasnt untill i played Dawn of war Retribution that i had to uninstall it and go back to presicion 212.
     

    Does this with my 570HD as well.  But isn't it supposed to when not under load?  Do you need it running at full speed when nothing is happening on the desktop?  Mine either say 50 at idle, 405 when doing small things, and then it bumps up to full speed if it's called for.
     
    If you run NV-Z in OC Scanner, even without Precision, you see the same drops.
    post edited by tlittleton - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:59 PM
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:57 PM (permalink)
    what do you mean by "randomly" downclocking to 50MHz in desktop??? have you heard about power saving features of GPUs when they are not under full load? LOL!
     
    my both GPUs do that in SLI which is great, because they save power so I pay less in electrical bills. when I game of watch fullscreen movie they always run at full steam (which is good again).
    post edited by feniks - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:58 PM

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:45 PM (permalink)
    True, and as i said i saw it doing that but didnt mind it cuz i didnt notice any negative side effect. 
     
    Me adding that bit to the post was only meant to show that i already saw prescision x being quite different in function than prescision 212. Im not sure that the dynamic mhz chaning is the cause of the overheating, more so because if dunno what other changes prescision x does, changes that i believe now to be more suited to the 600 series and not its predecessors. Thats something  warlord420 pointed out and i totally agree with.
      
     
    post edited by SDE Bellisarius - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:52 PM

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:02 AM (permalink)
    It's just like your CPU, it powers down to lower levels when not in use.  My 570 HD has always done this.  I didn't install P X until a few days ago.  I would notice the change in AIDA64.  
     
    It's a funtion of the drivers, not Precision.  nVidia has three different modes set for the cards.  Here's a snapshop of AIDA that shows them.
     

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:06 AM (permalink)
    warlord420

    percision X sucks for anything thats not a 680

    just revert back, freezing tho could be a bad OC running after application lunches
    uninstall percision , delete the EVGA folder from programfiles (x86 )
    then re install



    You are so very wrong. That says it all.

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Friday, April 27, 2012 9:59 PM (permalink)
    Been using Prec X now for a couple days without any issues.  Seems to be working the same as previous versions prior to Prec X except it has the additional features.
     


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Friday, April 27, 2012 10:09 PM (permalink)
    exactly ,it only alters voltage if it reads the correct id for 600 series .Other then that it is the same program as before with a facelift ....

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:33 AM (permalink)
    I think the issue has to be the drivers, will test with the 301's
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Monday, April 30, 2012 8:17 PM (permalink)
    Issue seems to be the drivers (296.10) , now using 301.24 beta and no issues.
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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:25 AM (permalink)
    Precision x on my desktop with 680 runs great.
    Same with my comp with 560's
    Same with my comp with a 470.

    Hell, i even run it on my laptops with non evga gt220m and it runs stable.
    Do you run any other video monitoring sw at the same time?

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    Re:Something fundamentally wrong with Precision Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:13 PM (permalink)
    I've had the same BSOD problems with X and my 560Ti Superclocked, and never with Legacy. My first BSOD reported that nv1ddmkm.sys was the problem. So I did a clean re-install of 296.10. Tried it again, and same problem. After about 5 minutes in BF3 on high res, the BSOD hit me again. So I switched back to Legacy without re-installing 296.10 and it works like a charm. I think I'll try using the new beta version and see what happens then. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I really like the look and feel of X.
     
    Did an install of Beta drivers and problem cured. Runs sweet, and graphics set on Ultra settings are unbelievably crisp.
    post edited by CMCChief - Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:14 PM
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