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Monday, January 03, 2011 10:11 AM (permalink)
I have what appears to be the same problem as Bigchrome as seen at the following locations:
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=757993
http://forums.pcpitstop.c...-gtx-570-folding-help/
http://foldingforum.org/v...c.php?f=59&t=17142
I've read all the threads and none of the suggestions have worked for me either, so I decided to make my own thread and hope for the best.
If you don't want to click the above links, all you really need to know is I'm getting a little over 13k PPD when the average is at least 2k higher, all with the project number of 6801. This is according to regular people on forums and websites doing reviews.
 
Diagnostics I've done:
-Run Memtest for GPU
-Check clocks; are all at default according to GPU-Z, sensors tab reports 99% GPU load, temps fine.
-Run with SMP client on/off
-Uninstall drivers, run driver sweeper in safe mode and install drivers again. 263.09 of course
-Reset bios to defaults
All of which returned expected/default results and no change in PPD.
 
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    toe_crusher
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Monday, January 03, 2011 11:50 AM (permalink)
    Overclock your card
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Monday, January 03, 2011 10:56 PM (permalink)
    I don't see how that will fix my problem. The reports I'm comparing my PPD to are those of which explicitly state they are running at default clocks like me.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Monday, January 03, 2011 10:58 PM (permalink)
    Overclocking the card did not help me ^
    I'm in for the ride on this one aswell
    It's an extremely frustrating issue that I really want to get to the bottom of! My card is being returned and I'm just hoping it doesn't somehow "work perfectly" for them and I get stung with a 100 quid bill for returning a "non-faulty card,"
     
    It's safe to say I've tried everything you've tried, and more, and that returning the card for a replacement seems to be the best option. I'll let you know how mine goes, especially if it sorts it!
    Out of curiosity, what country do you live in if you don't mind me asking?
    Is it possible that stanford have just sent us WUs that take longer to crunch than others'?
    post edited by Bigchrome - Monday, January 03, 2011 10:59 PM
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Monday, January 03, 2011 11:06 PM (permalink)
    I live in Florida, United States. I'm beginning to think my card might be fine because other benchmarks I've tried (Heaven and 3DMark11) seem to be returning expected results, so it may just be our WUs are in some way different even though they are the same project number.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Monday, January 03, 2011 11:36 PM (permalink)
    blueice41188

    I live in Florida, United States. I'm beginning to think my card might be fine because other benchmarks I've tried (Heaven and 3DMark11) seem to be returning expected results, so it may just be our WUs are in some way different even though they are the same project number.


    It's probably not region based then as I'm in Ireland
    My card is almost exactly up to scratch with most reviews in 3D11 and heaven aswell, which is why I find it so strange. It's possible that folding just taxes the gpu in a different way and this is why it doesn't show in heaven/11 though. If someone who was running at 15k+ ppd were to give us their work folder etc. we would be able to find that out though
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:46 AM (permalink)
    So apparently it was something to do with our WUs and not our cards themselves.


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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:02 AM (permalink)
    Wow 35k with your CPU. I knew that those bigadv things were point bombs but dang that's awesome. Soon as I get my new 2600k folding for a bit I can get my current 775 set up folding full time, with the help of the EVGA bucks.
     
    Thanks for the pic blueice I didn't know those things were worth that many points.

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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:41 AM (permalink)
    Notice it was yellow, that's the because the program didn't have enough data to give a reasonably accurate estimate yet. It's now in the low 20s (still decent). As for the GTX 570, it got another 6801 project WU and it's back down to 13k PPD : \
    My CPU is an i7 950 @ 4025MHz btw.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:56 PM (permalink)
    My card should be going back today or tomorrow so I guess we'll see what the problem is in a week or two :) It has to be our cards though. My friend let me take apart his GTX470 system that gets 15k ppd (overclocked) and put my GTX570 in, still only got 13k.
     
    Would love to hear from someone at evga to see if they know of disabled/broken things on certain cards!
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:03 PM (permalink)
    I'm geeting arounf 18k with my slighlty oc'ed 570. Is you card stuck in 2D mode when you fold?

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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:09 PM (permalink)
    Mine isn't at least, and I doubt the blueice's is either. Afterburner/precision both show it running 3D clocks, and overclocking it does raise the performance so I don't think it's that!
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:15 PM (permalink)
    1st question:
    Do you have the -advmethod checked in the tracker, if so that will give you the 6801 WUs. Currently 6806 WUs are the only ones I have been getting.
    2nd question:
    What % does the GPU show usage wise?


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:26 PM (permalink)
    Yes and no, -advmethods checked and not checked results in the same ppd (ie with p6806 and 6801)
    99% gpu usage.
     
    I'll answer for blueice in the meantime if he doesn't mind, as I think we probably have the exact same config/issues.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:32 PM (permalink)
    I dont know if youve seen it yet but there is a Beta driver out now....worth a shot...
    http://www.nvidia.com/obj...66.35-beta-driver.html
     
    I have to add I do not have a 570, just trying to help sort this out.
    post edited by howdy2u2 - Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:33 PM


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:30 PM (permalink)
    I was positive I posted here about 30 mins ago
     
    Thanks for the heads up on the new drivers! They made no difference unfortunately :(
     
    Appreciate you trying to help out!
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:40 PM (permalink)
    Open the nvidia control panel, then manage 3d settings.  Make sure CUDA- GPU's is set to all, and the power management mode is set to prefer maximum performance.  Also, try setting the priority for fahcore_15 process to high and see if it makes any difference.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:07 PM (permalink)
    CUDA-GPUs were set to all, but the power management mode was set to adaptive. I changed it to prefer maximum performance as you suggested, I'll let you know if it makes a difference.
     
    Here is a screenshot to illustrate some things that have been mentioned by Bigchrome and I throughout the thread

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    post edited by blueice41188 - Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:09 PM
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:52 PM (permalink)
    Have tried all the above stuff! Adaptive or maximum performance doesn't make a difference and the priority doesn't seem to either. These cards are out of stock at the retailer I purchased from so it's going to take ages to get a decent card out of this... fairly pissed off tbh :(
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:59 PM (permalink)
    What is the TPF on the 6801? I am running 6806s on all my GPUs and the max is 2min 9sec (GTS 450) min is 1min 7sec (GTX 480s) I honestly believe it is the 6801s that are giving you such low PPD because of the TPF, I cannot remember what they (6801s) were on my machine but I had removed the -advmethods flag because they ran so much hotter and I didnt want them until they came out of beta. Now granted you are running the 570 which is from what I understand is quite comparable to my 480s. Id just like to see what you get with a 6806 WU for chits and giggles.
     
    If i had paid more attention to your screen shot it is quite obvious the PPD of each WU
    The only other thing I noticed in your screen shot is all the "stuff" you also have running besides F@H.... It might have something to do with one of those also, I know on one of my systems if I go to certain websites it messes with my GTX275. The usage goes absolutely haywire while folding.
    post edited by howdy2u2 - Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:06 PM


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:05 PM (permalink)
    My TPF is 1:23 at 800 core, and more like 1:28 at the stock 730 core. This is on p6806 but I'm pretty sure the TPF for p6801 was identical!
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:10 PM (permalink)
    Interesting TPF IE:
    GTX465/ 1:27/ 13387PPD/ P6806
     Just makes no sense at all your 570 should be kicking the 465 and be at or above a 480........


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:21 PM (permalink)
    Yeah it really is frustrating. As for the other things I'm running aside from folding, they make very little noticeable difference PPD wise. I also get 1:28 TPF at stock clocks btw.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Wednesday, January 05, 2011 0:09 PM (permalink)
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    I was checking out the screen shot, decided to download gpu-z.  I compaired it to my system, which is running a gtx 580.  It's also running a 6806 wu.  I noticed that memory used on yours is 183 mb, on my 580 it's only at 163.  I think you have something running that might be using some of the gpu's memory.  Maybe someone else can confirm this in another rig running a 6806.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:51 AM (permalink)
    I probably had a bunch of tabs in Firefox open. To test for yourself monitor memory usage in GPU-Z while opening and closing Firefox with websites loaded in tabs.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:09 AM (permalink)
    13,000 - 15,000 is not bad for the GTX 570, I can't wait to get one to finally replace my GTX 260, but it won't happen for me until april/may range. thats when I'm doing the upgrade.

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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:11 AM (permalink)
    It's not bad but it should be higher according to a lot of people. I'm still folding pretty much 24/7 on it and my CPU, but if I don't figure it out by the time Bigchrome gets his RMA; I may RMA this one too.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:56 PM (permalink)
    Just a quick update here, I sent the card back and it was found faulty. Getting a replacement :)
    You should probably do the same with yours Blueice!
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:41 PM (permalink)
    Yep I already did the same, forgot to update this thread. I did an EAR and the new card (or hopefully new since I bought it less than 30 days ago) will arrive Monday. The only thing I am worried about is the serial number on the replacement is earlier than my current card; so I'm hoping it's like you said: a faulty card, and the early serial number won't mean anything negative. The reason I think the early serial number is bad is because the early BIOS seems to have been common among other people with low PPD, as well as possibly meaning the card was re-certified. Of course I could be completely wrong and the serial number isn't consecutive /shrug could be lots of reasons.
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    Re:Low PPD on GTX 570 Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:45 PM (permalink)
    I think you're safe as far as serial number goes! Also I flashed to the newer bios and it made no difference so I doubt that's related! There were also plenty of cards with the old bios that performed fine too :)
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