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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:10 PM
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Hi guys, I just bough a EVGA X58 FTW3, a 12GB DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair Kit and a Intel Core i7 920 stepping D0. Right now it's stock @2.66 GHz but I would like to overclock it to 3.6 GHz. I was reading a guide here (evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=81651&mpage=1) but I'm still confused, specially when it comes to underclocking my RAM. Could someone help me step by step to do it?, this is certenly not the simply overclocking you was used to do back in P1, PII, PIII or even P4...
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:19 PM
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 0:06 PM
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Yes, you are right, my cooler it's a Cooler Master V6GT (air).
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 0:43 PM
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According to the review your cooler is just a tad better than my NH-U12P-SE , http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/V6GT/5.html so you should be able to obtain 200 clocks and use a 2:8 memory multaplier to maintain 1600 memory speed. If your memory is XMP you can use CPU-Z to see your memory timing in the SPD tab. Your DimmV and timing will show there use the 800 speed colum as your memory is DDR ( double data Rate ) so 800= 1600. for a 2:8 memory multaplier set uncore to 16X. your CPU speed will be your cpu multaplier times your frequency you will likley loos a .5 hertz from whatever you set so with a CPU multaplier of 18 you would be at 18x199.5 or 3.591, with a 19 at 3.79, with a 20 , 3.990, and with turbo on at 20 for a 21, 4.189. If you use the Vdroop feature you will likley need around 1.375 Vcore, without Vdroop, around 1.325, and I suspect you would need a +150 Vtt for 6G of memory or +250, for 12G. Set command rate for 2T for 12G or 1T for 6; You will want to turn off speed step, while you are overclocking but can turn it back on when done if you want that feature, that feature allows your system to down clock at lower demands, and your cpu multaplier can drop to 12 to put you about 2.4 when not stressed. You are going to want to avoid the sleep features over 188 clocks, as they are hard to get them to operate reiliable that high. you will likley need less v core and Vtt than me if you settle at the 3.6 speed, as I am pushing the 4.0 This is when I was running 201 host freq for mem at 1600. The links I provided above in post 2 should show you where to make the changes in BIOS, and the video uses a 920 and EVGA BIOS.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:36 AM
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You definitely do not want your memory linked to your cpu speed...
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:07 AM
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The first guide it's very very good, after reading it I could understand what you where talking about. Your last idea puts me right into 3.6 GHz with my RAM in 1600 MHz, but it makes me wonder about 2 things: 1. If I use the turbo mode then it will reach 4.2 GHz. Is it safe with my cooler?, should I use it or should I deactivate turbo mode? 2. With that rates, the GT/s will be 7.2 GT/s for the QPI and I have read that more than 7 GT/s causes inestability... Hafter reading the first guide my choice could be 175x20 2:10, but that will give me a 1750 MHz for RAM and that's way too much. Of course, all this is without touching voltages. What else could you tell me?
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:44 AM
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Your temps can be monatered with E-leet, you do not want more than a 85 core temp LOADED with your OC, NOTE core temps are difrent than cpu temp. Your cooler reviews a tad better than mine, I can run 21x206 in the winter, BUT NOT in the sumer. I have to back off host freq when it gets hot, of course this will depend on how good your AC is, and your airflow. AS you can see in my pic in post 4 I have droped down from the 206, to 200 for my day to day, 206 was my max OC and the most my memory could handle without errors. I latter had to drop to a 193, I did that due to heat. My cores will hit the low 90's if I stay above 200 in the sumer. Note the above pic is with my 980, The 920 would only have 4 cores, Here it is at Idle unloaded, you can use Prime 95 of LinX to load your CPU the 85 limit is loaded. You will have to test your ram to see how much it will let you go over, some ram has issues jut hitting spec, this is why they sell, 1866 and 2000 memory, it costs more but opens overclock room. Sometimes you can loosen timing IE change a 8,8,8 to 9,9,9 to buy a little head room in going over spec. For me if I want 1600 memory my choices are a 2:8 with 200 or a 2:10 with 160, I then see where I can adjust the CPU multaplier. With the 920 you can only go down, with a unlocked multaplier chip you can go up as well. Your performance on a less expensive 920 would be the same as a 965 with the same frequency, the $800 diferance in price, is because one is easier to OC than the other. (Note ) you loose Turbo if you come off 20 multaplier on that chip.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:46 AM
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I try 200x18 @ 2:8 but it shows me a nice BSOD starting P95. Right now I'm in 3.6 GHz with 180x20, but RAM it's lowered to 1440 MHz... Wat advice can you give to get up the RAM frecuency?
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:00 AM
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You only have three choices and one is not possable Increse your host frequency to 200 as 200x8 = 1600, Find a board that will allow you to set memory to 2:9, (Unaware of one); or buy memory that will run 1866 or 2000 so a 2:10 would work. (If you go to a 2:10 with faster memory change uncor to 20X )
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:02 AM
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skyx26 I try 200x18 @ 2:8 but it shows me a nice BSOD starting P95. Right now I'm in 3.6 GHz with 180x20, but RAM it's lowered to 1440 MHz... Wat advice can you give to get up the RAM frecuency? You have to increase the Base Clock some more. Only way to increase the RAM frequency to spec, or have higher frequency ram and up the Memory Divider.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:05 AM
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I try 200x18 @ 2:8 but it shows me a nice BSOD starting P95.
Right now I'm in 3.6 GHz with 180x20, but RAM it's lowered to 1440 MHz...
Wat advice can you give to get up the RAM frecuency?
If the BOSD is 101 add vcore, if it's 124 add Vtt. BSOD Info: Increase Vcore if you see this BSOD. Increase VCORE or CPU VTT if you see this BSOD (you must test by bumping each voltage watching for a change to see which one is needing an increase). If it's a difrent BSOD Post the code.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:08 AM
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What if I modify the voltages? I'm now in Vcore 1.27v, VTT 1.1v.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:12 AM
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for a 4.1 and 12G of memory with Vdroop I need a Vcore of 1.375 and a Vtt of +250 using 2000 speed memory, I would suspect at 1600 speed you could get by with a +150-200, intel warns about not exceeding 1.4 total Vtt , but some need to exceed a 1.4 total Vtt to run 12G there are some sample templates at the bottom of this link, it is my favorite OC link. How to Overclock the I7 (Ported): http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=7528 It was writen a long time ago, about the time the 920 came out.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:17 AM
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At 200x18 2:8 this is my BSOD: freeimagehosting.net/5530d So, right now I'm pretty much stuck at 3.4 GHz and 1600 MHz for RAM...
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:21 AM
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Give 191 a shot at 191 your memory would be 8*191 or 1528 e-leet would show about 764 cpu would be about 4.0 with the 20 + turbo. ; @ 18 it would be 3.42; @ 19 = 3.61, or 20 = 3.8 if you have to give up CPU speed or memory speed, you get your most gain from CPU speed.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:21 PM
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Men, that was a very, very nifty solution. I got my 3.6 GHz and RAM gets 1540 MHz (it's not 1600 but I'm not going to complain for 60 MHz) and without touching the voltages. So far the system looks stable, I'm going to smash it in the next days to see if it remains so or crash. My temps don't go over 73ºC for the cores and 55ºC for the CPU, so it's really a very good cooler. Thank you so much for the help.
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Re:Overclocking an Intel Core i7 920 Stepping D0
Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:41 PM
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Your vreg temp looks a little too high. You might want to place some more cooling air on it. KMoore4318 Your temps can be monatered with E-leet, you do not want more than a 85 core temp LOADED with your OC, NOTE core temps are difrent than cpu temp. Your cooler reviews a tad better than mine, I can run 21x206 in the winter, BUT NOT in the sumer. I have to back off host freq when it gets hot, of course this will depend on how good your AC is, and your airflow. AS you can see in my pic in post 4 I have droped down from the 206, to 200 for my day to day, 206 was my max OC and the most my memory could handle without errors. I latter had to drop to a 193, I did that due to heat. My cores will hit the low 90's if I stay above 200 in the sumer. Note the above pic is with my 980, The 920 would only have 4 cores, Here it is at Idle unloaded, you can use Prime 95 of LinX to load your CPU the 85 limit is loaded. You will have to test your ram to see how much it will let you go over, some ram has issues jut hitting spec, this is why they sell, 1866 and 2000 memory, it costs more but opens overclock room. Sometimes you can loosen timing IE change a 8,8,8 to 9,9,9 to buy a little head room in going over spec. For me if I want 1600 memory my choices are a 2:8 with 200 or a 2:10 with 160, I then see where I can adjust the CPU multaplier. With the 920 you can only go down, with a unlocked multaplier chip you can go up as well. Your performance on a less expensive 920 would be the same as a 965 with the same frequency, the $800 diferance in price, is because one is easier to OC than the other. (Note ) you loose Turbo if you come off 20 multaplier on that chip.
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