TERMiNAL_
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Got my 3060 TI in the mail yesterday from the EVGA que and the card is a total beast.
One thing I did notice is the fan spin up noise from, someone please tell me this is normal, you can hear the fans make a weird noise when they spool up from a complete stop but at full speed they sound normal and also there is ZERO coil whine.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/10/30 09:05:50
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Could you post a video including this noise so others have some clue what you're talking about?
Btw, if fan spin-up noise bothers you you can always make a custom curve that leaves the higher fan speeds at the default curve levels, but raises the fan speeds at the lower temps, to make the fan curve less steep. This results in a less dramatic, and less noticeable, fan ramp-up sound. Some folks are more annoyed at the sound of the fan ramping up than they are at the actual fan noise if it's constant, so this could help.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/10/30 09:11:42
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Could you post a video including this noise so others have some clue what you're talking about?
Btw, if fan spin-up noise bothers you you can always make a custom curve that leaves the higher fan speeds at the default curve levels, but raises the fan speeds at the lower temps, to make the fan curve less steep. This results in a less dramatic, and less noticeable, fan ramp-up sound. Some folks are more annoyed at the sound of the fan ramping up than they are at the actual fan noise if it's constant, so this could help.
it sounds like it in this video, except mine isn't as loud, a friend of mine said he has a gigabyte 1060 that does the same thing so I assume it's normal? I can't post a video as I haven't been a member for 5 days but you can find the sound on a 3060 on Youtube.
post edited by TERMiNAL_ - 2021/10/30 09:14:30
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/10/31 14:36:15
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I've made a post on here as well a few days ago. It happens on all of the 30 series. Only solution is custom fan curve with a higher temperature before turning on, or keep a 50% min rpm
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/11/01 08:42:56
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FWIW, I have had two AMD cards (rx580 and vega 56) from two different board partners with fanstop that never made clicks starting and stopping. If it IS normal behavior, it shouldn't be.
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TERMiNAL_
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/11/01 12:47:21
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I've made a post on here as well a few days ago. It happens on all of the 30 series. Only solution is custom fan curve with a higher temperature before turning on, or keep a 50% min rpm
I set mine for around 30% min for the lowest fan speed
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/11/01 14:14:25
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I too can't have my fans at 0%, fans 2 and 3 are affected... :(
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/18 16:46:20
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It seems like the GPU firmware is applying some kind of "impulse" if the fan is at 0 RPM, and then applies the requested speed half a second later. However, if the requested speed is too low to the point where the fan stops spinning, the firmware will detect that the fans stopped and send another impulse to get them spinning again. This gets repeated ad infinitum. I have the same issue with my 3070 Ti, I was able to stop the infinite cycle by avoiding all speeds between 1 and 14% in Precision X1. At 0% the fans stay stopped, and at 15% they will spin up only once and then keep going without stopping.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 10:53:27
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I was able to stop the infinite cycle by avoiding all speeds between 1 and 14% in Precision X1. At 0% the fans stay stopped, and at 15% they will spin up only once and then keep going without stopping.
Yep, had this issue with my 3080 when I wanted it set to 10%.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 11:03:33
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I don't know why the software fan management is a bit poor on EVGA card, I did not had this kind of issue with Asus nor MSI cards. 0 dB or 0 rmp fan worked very well on asus and msi, not the case with EVGA.
Also hysteresis option won't work on the card, so having fan speed trigger on 1 °C variations is annoying.
Anyway, was tired to find a solution, my PC is open, so noise is a concern.
Ive ended up to remove the EVGA fans, and strap 120mm fans on my PC board, and control them with 'fanspeed' . It work as expected, and can't ask for more, very nice little piece of software.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 11:23:10
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Also hysteresis option won't work on the card
This is because when the graph is in slope mode, the speed values are applied at the firmware level. It's the equivalent of checking "Use firmware control mode" in MSI Afterburner. Obviously, the solution would be for X1 to switch to software control mode when the hysteresis parameter is greater than zero, but EVGA devs didn't have that foresight.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 13:59:50
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Hysteresis has never worked on my 3060ti, the fans will keep turning off/on instead of staying on until the temp is met, the firmware is broken.
I just keep the fans at 15% now.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 16:33:35
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Hysteresis has never worked on my 3060ti, the fans will keep turning off/on instead of staying on until the temp is met, the firmware is broken.
The firmware isn't broken, hysteresis is simply not supported at the firmware level. Hysteresis does work if you switch the graph to step mode, since it is enforced at the software level, although step mode is annoying. Hopefully the devs will fix slope mode hysteresis in the future. I ended up using Afterburner's hysteresis for the time being, which does work.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/19 17:19:11
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TERMiNAL_
Hysteresis has never worked on my 3060ti, the fans will keep turning off/on instead of staying on until the temp is met, the firmware is broken.
The firmware isn't broken, hysteresis is simply not supported at the firmware level. Hysteresis does work if you switch the graph to step mode, since it is enforced at the software level, although step mode is annoying. Hopefully the devs will fix slope mode hysteresis in the future. I ended up using Afterburner's hysteresis for the time being, which does work.
Afterburner's hysteresis mode in slope mode does the same thing as Precision X1 for me...fans will turn off/on constantly instead of staying on at the set hysteresis number I set. And just tried step mode like you said and it works lol, i emailed EVGA over my issue with the fans turning off/on and they didn't even tell me this, it seemed they didn't even know it was a problem with slope mode, maybe i'll send them an email.
post edited by TERMiNAL_ - 2021/12/19 17:28:24
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 07:18:18
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if its a 'too' big issue, just use speedfan software with a set of bigger fans. I know this is a work around, and for a brand new gpu we shouldn't have to do this annoying workaround, but hey, it worked, and I have better cooling . Ive followed this video :
post edited by cpt00 - 2021/12/20 07:20:07
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 09:12:48
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Is it normal? For EVGA, yes. For other companies, no.
I'm hoping one day they can edit firmware or software to fix the sudden start / stop behavior--fan stop is a great feature and works flawlessly (in my experience) with other manufacturers, their version of it just needs some tweaking.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 09:18:06
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Is it normal? For EVGA, yes.
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their version of it just needs some tweaking.
It has needed tweaking for years. I wonder why they don't get the memo.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 10:07:35
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Afterburner's hysteresis mode in slope mode does the same thing as Precision X1 for me...fans will turn off/on constantly instead of staying on at the set hysteresis number I set
If you have "Force fan speed update on each period" checked, uncheck it. Hysteresis started working for me only after I did that.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 10:34:05
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TERMiNAL_
Afterburner's hysteresis mode in slope mode does the same thing as Precision X1 for me...fans will turn off/on constantly instead of staying on at the set hysteresis number I set
If you have "Force fan speed update on each period" checked, uncheck it. Hysteresis started working for me only after I did that.
tried that, not sure if it was using hysteresis or doing a proper ramping speed with the curve, but when the fan hit 70%, no matter the steps in speeds, the noise alone was annoying. And GPU @ 100% load, 70% fan speed is too low, I was getting 78°C + . More silent 120mm fan help, but still, when my fans hit 92% (my forced max limit), and GPU 100% load, I reach 71°C. Less noise, a bit of better cooling. Didnt had time to do extensive test, but both OEM or 120mm fans @ 100%, I get around 4°C better cooling with new fans. Cooler is too small. In a near future, since my setup is a wall mounted PC, Ill put a fan on the back of the GPU, near the venting holes, to increase pressure, and air flow. it will be invisible, air will face the wall.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 10:52:14
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Is it normal? For EVGA, yes. For other companies, no.
I'm hoping one day they can edit firmware or software to fix the sudden start / stop behavior--fan stop is a great feature and works flawlessly (in my experience) with other manufacturers, their version of it just needs some tweaking.
It is annoying because EVGA advertises the stop/start fan feature but it doesn't work correctly, I have tried precision x1 and after burner with no success, i've tried slope and graph mode, nothing works, the fans will start/stop constantly until they get down to the firmware temp. My fans will turn on at 45c then go down to 40c, so the fans will start/stop constantly until they hit 40c. I've told EVGA this but they were no help at all and never admitted there is a problem. I will still buy EVGA because apparently they are great to deal with, but i doubt this little annoying issue will be fixed.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 13:52:27
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it is. My GTX 960 strix can keep a stable 10°C over ambient temp 0 rpm on idle.
My MSI 3060 got also 0 rpm on idle. But at first its was cycling , since the T° was ramping at 0rpm, but with a fully DDU and no geforce experience install, T° was stable at 0rpm.
But the EVGA 3060ti, wont keep stable temp, and fan will cycle from 0 rpm to XXXrpm constantly. Also, since I'm on a open concept, I can hear the metal fin moving with heat.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 13:57:24
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it is. My GTX 960 strix can keep a stable 10°C over ambient temp 0 rpm on idle.
My MSI 3060 got also 0 rpm on idle. But at first its was cycling , since the T° was ramping at 0rpm, but with a fully DDU and no geforce experience install, T° was stable at 0rpm.
But the EVGA 3060ti, wont keep stable temp, and fan will cycle from 0 rpm to XXXrpm constantly. Also, since I'm on a open concept, I can hear the metal fin moving with heat.
just keep the fans spinning at all times, i set my lowest point at 15 fan speed / 30c temp i have yet to have a gpu fan fail on me since my early days of gaming but with warranty if one fails i can just send it back in for RMA
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2021/12/20 18:45:48
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TERMiNAL_
i have yet to have a gpu fan fail on me since my early days of gaming but with warranty if one fails i can just send it back in for RMA
Why does EVGA even try to have a poorly working zero dB mode? All it does is make clicking nooses, and it has never worked properly. EVGA, listen.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/12 08:17:25
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I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but I received my 3060TI XC a week ago and this problem has been happening. The GPU will randomly spike in use and thus engaging the fans and the spin up. This never happened with my EVGA 980TI. Part of me is considering returning it, but from the posts above it looks to be a common problem among the EVGA 30xx series? Either way, I created a custom fan curve and that seems to work. It's just a bit frustrating.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/12 12:34:00
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Found this thread also due to searching for the start/stop issue. Thanks for helpful info posted by everyone. I'm hoping to find some software that can not only properly control the GPU fans but can also control my PWM system fans. The BIOS will only control them based on either CPU or MB temp. However, those don't increase nearly as much as GPU temp during gaming. Therefore, I'd like an app that not only set a curve for the GPU fans but also the system case fans based on the GPU temp. Years ago I used speedfan so that was my first thought but I see it hasn't been updated in a long time. Does anyone know if it or anything other software can do what I want? Thanks!
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/12 12:46:12
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Found this thread also due to searching for the start/stop issue. Thanks for helpful info posted by everyone. I'm hoping to find some software that can not only properly control the GPU fans but can also control my PWM system fans. The BIOS will only control them based on either CPU or MB temp. However, those don't increase nearly as much as GPU temp during gaming. Therefore, I'd like an app that not only set a curve for the GPU fans but also the system case fans based on the GPU temp. Years ago I used speedfan so that was my first thought but I see it hasn't been updated in a long time. Does anyone know if it or anything other software can do what I want? Thanks!
can you try this software and report? I do use it for all my fans, DC or PWm, but I don't have fan anymore on my gpu, Ive unplug them and now run it on the mobo with this software, and I did NOT try this software with OEM fans. However, I can see my RTX in the list of sensors, so it might override and control the GPU fan speed, but I dont know if it will fix the start/stop issue https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/12 19:19:48
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I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but I received my 3060TI XC a week ago and this problem has been happening. The GPU will randomly spike in use and thus engaging the fans and the spin up. This never happened with my EVGA 980TI. Part of me is considering returning it, but from the posts above it looks to be a common problem among the EVGA 30xx series? Either way, I created a custom fan curve and that seems to work. It's just a bit frustrating.
The BIOS set 0db is set too low for this card for sure, the fans start up around 42c. But the card idles constantly around that temperature anyways. EVGA should have set it to 50c or 55c. I think some of the other EVGA cards it's set higher. Best thing to do is to keep the fans running all the time.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/12 21:21:41
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Found this thread also due to searching for the start/stop issue. Thanks for helpful info posted by everyone. I'm hoping to find some software that can not only properly control the GPU fans but can also control my PWM system fans. The BIOS will only control them based on either CPU or MB temp. However, those don't increase nearly as much as GPU temp during gaming. Therefore, I'd like an app that not only set a curve for the GPU fans but also the system case fans based on the GPU temp. Years ago I used speedfan so that was my first thought but I see it hasn't been updated in a long time. Does anyone know if it or anything other software can do what I want? Thanks!
Another vote for "Fan Control" as posted above, I use it extensively.
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/13 05:20:23
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IXLR84EVGA
Found this thread also due to searching for the start/stop issue. Thanks for helpful info posted by everyone. I'm hoping to find some software that can not only properly control the GPU fans but can also control my PWM system fans. The BIOS will only control them based on either CPU or MB temp. However, those don't increase nearly as much as GPU temp during gaming. Therefore, I'd like an app that not only set a curve for the GPU fans but also the system case fans based on the GPU temp. Years ago I used speedfan so that was my first thought but I see it hasn't been updated in a long time. Does anyone know if it or anything other software can do what I want? Thanks!
Another vote for "Fan Control" as posted above, I use it extensively.
Thank you and cpt00 for suggesting FanControl. I've just started trying it and hope you can please answer a couple questions: 1) I disabled BIOS control of my CPU and Case fans so the FanControl software could have full control of them. Do I need to do something similar for the GPU? If so, what do I use to disable the GPU BIOS from controlling its fans? 2) Although FanControl is detecting/controlling my system fans it can't lower their RPM % as low as the motherboard BIOS could before they stop turning. For example, the BIOS had no problem running them at 25% but with SpeedControl they stop below 40%. Have you experienced anything similar? Is there a way to overcome this problem? Thanks again!
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Re: Fan Spin Up Noise, EVGA 3060 TI XC GAMING
2022/04/13 05:56:49
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mmm strange, I did not touch the BIOS because if the software fail , I want the bios to take over.
FanControl will override the BIOS anyway on my Asus Z690 Prime.
- My dummy DC fans wont run under 30% , since they reach 300rpm. This is the fan itself not the bios nor software.
- My PWM fans wont go to 0 rpm, since their specs are 500-1800rpm. So even it I put 0%, they will run @500rpm. once again fan, not the bios nor FanControl.
% might have different step over the bios or FanControl, the number you have to look is the RPM.
Right now all my fans are running @500rpm, and it makes virutally NO sound, and almost no air movement ! (open case, so I will cool with natural convection)
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