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2014/05/24 02:16:46 (permalink)
I am new to the forum and first would like to say hello
Secondly we bought an Evga GTX 780 for gameplay and editing videos we have a problem with the video editing side normally we use Sony Vegas but this doesn't appear to use the GPU processor apart from the first few seconds so rendering videos has become 10 times longer if it doesn't crash (Which it does) Have even formatted the pc and cannot get any video editing software to work, would anyone have used any video editing programmes that do work or have any suggestions how this can be sorted as my son is pulling his hair out
 
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    xvig0rx
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 06:32:18 (permalink)
    Which Sony Vegas version is your son using?


    There should be an option to turn on the GPU acceleration for the video processing in the settings. Also, there should be an option in the encode mode to use GPU only, instead of cpu.
     
    post edited by xvig0rx - 2014/05/24 06:36:10
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 07:12:08 (permalink)
    Using Sony Vegas Pro 12
     
    Render Output Format is MainConcept AVC/AAC which under encode mode says use CPU Only, CUDA if available and OpenCL if available and checking under the systems tab says CUDA is available so I'm assuming that it should work. Using a Radeon HD 6950 with OpenCL produced good results with a 20 minute video taking about 22-25 minutes to render out fully but when enabling CUDA on the same video but with the GTX 780 it can take upwards of 2-3+ hours but will eventually crash if left running and the GPU usage goes from 0% to 9% never going any higher.
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 07:21:23 (permalink)
    What is your current specs for your system? You may want to use a benchmark tool (3dMark, Valley, Heaven) to see how well your card is performing, just to make sure there is nothing wrong with your g-card.
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 08:25:00 (permalink)
    CPU: i5 2500K @3.30GHz
    GPU: GTX 780
    RAM: 8GB
    OS: Windows 7
     
    Heaven:
    FPS: 47.7
    Score: 1200
    Min: 8.2
    Max: 105.6
     
    Platform: Windows 7
    CPU Model: Intel Core i5 - 2500K @ 3.30GHz
    GPU: GeForce GTX 780 9.18.13.3523
     
    Settings
    Render: Direct3D11
    Mode: 1920x1080 8xAA Fullscreen
    Preset: Custom
    Quality: Ultra
    Tessellation: Extreme
     
    Valley:
    FPS: 78.3
    Score: 3264
    Min: 30.1
    Max: 134.5
     
    Platform: Windows 7
    CPU Model: i5 2500K @3.30GHz
    GPU: GeForce GTX 780 9.18.13.3523
     
    Settings:
    Render: Direct3D11
    Mode: 1920x1080
    Preset: Custom
    Quality: Ultra
     
    I'm not entirely sure what these results mean, hopefully they show that the graphics card is running fine. The only setting I changed was the multi-monitor setting because it wanted to use both but I never run games over both screens. I've also been playing Wolfenstein The New Order on the card and it seems to be running fine on that as well but the problem is the graphics card doesn't seem to be used at all on Vegas.
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 12:40:54 (permalink)
    I've never used Vegas. This was taken from a review. Looks like AMD trumps Nvidia for this app. Source: http://anandtech.com/show/7492/the-geforce-gtx-780-ti-review/14
     
     
    Our 3rd compute benchmark is Sony Vegas Pro 12, an OpenGL and OpenCL video editing and authoring package. Vegas can use GPUs in a few different ways, the primary uses being to accelerate the video effects and compositing process itself, and in the video encoding step. With video encoding being increasingly offloaded to dedicated DSPs these days we’re focusing on the editing and compositing process, rendering to a low CPU overhead format (XDCAM EX). This specific test comes from Sony, and measures how long it takes to render a video.
     
     
    Also found this, maybe helpful. There using Vegas 11, but mentions some codecs don't utilize GPU. Source: http://www.overclock.net/t/1347410/need-nvidia-gtx-for-sony-vegas-pro-12/20
     
     
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    Originally Posted by WalkaboutSean 

    This may be an old thread, but it was helpful to me. My rig is a Core i7 920. I was just about to pull the trigger on a GTX 780 ti for editing on Sony Vegas 11. It sounds like that would be a major waste of cash?

    I currently have a GTX 560. (Actually I HAD a GTX 560... it crapped out last week, but Asus is replacing it under warranty.)

    If I can save you some money, I'd love to. 

    I have run Sony Vegas on three different workstations:

    Rig1: i7-920 (stock) + 550ti
    Rig2: i7-930 3.8ghz + 560ti 448
    Rig3: i7-2600k (4.5ghz) + GTX 480

    Now, it varies HEAVILY depending on your codec. Some don't support GPU acceleration at all. Sony's XDCAM and AVC use it the most. Here's what I found doing Sony AVC which "taxes" the GPU the most

    Rig1: 30% GPU usage peak, 20% sustained
    Rig2: 40% GPU usage peak, 20% sustained
    Rig3: 35% GPU usage peak, 30% sustained

    Take that for what you will. I think anything better than a 550ti will be just fine. The 550ti happens to suck as a gaming card, so I'd shoot for a 560ti for a bit of future proof-ness in Vegas and a halfway decent gaming card.

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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/24 15:53:37 (permalink)
    When I had GPU acceleration on, my rendering was 4-6x slower than with it off. This is with a i7 870 + Geforce Titan. Ever since I run with GPU acceleration off. That was with Vegas Pro 12. 
     
    I recently upgraded to 13, haven't had a chance to see if it works properly this time around. 

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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/25 02:34:19 (permalink)
    It's not a problem with card, but Vegas optimization since 12 barelly use CUDA...well known problem.

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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/25 02:37:30 (permalink)
    Yes we have come to that conclusion rauf00  so are there any programmes that work with cuda?
     
    thank you for your help gents it's much appreciated
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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/25 03:18:13 (permalink)
    Sorry, didn't read all posts ;) What i found is that with Vegas 12 and 13 ATI works better, and talking ab CUDA:
    https://developer.nvidia.com/about-cuda

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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/25 03:33:12 (permalink)
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    Yes we have come to that conclusion rauf00  so are there any programmes that work with cuda?
     
    thank you for your help gents it's much appreciated


    Adobe products like Photoshop,Premiere,etc.
    Sony Vegas should learn from Adobe i.e. the software will automatically disable using your videocard if it crashes
    Anyways, if software is using your videocard to speed up things it should at least have a help webpage like Adobe's that tells you what works or not, how to troubleshoot,etc...
    http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq.html
     

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    Re: Evga gtx 780 for video editing let me suck your brains 2014/05/25 03:42:59 (permalink)
    Yes daviangel we also contacted Sony absolute waste of time and energy it appears once they have your money that's your lot, hopefully they will sort out the shortcomings soon
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