Nike_7688

enewt
 
I hear you. I think of LTT as a bit more of a meme show, but Steve isn't far behind. Especially if he does more shows while riding down a hill on his mountain bike.  
 
It feels to me that NVIDIA is trying to relitigate/re-fight the poor choice they made last fall in pricing the 3080 so low...they are trying to capture more of the value that they ceded to scalpers over the last 9 months...and it just leaves us in the lurch....

Completely agree. LTT is good for a laugh now and then, but not actual data or information. J2C is similar and I find it more entertaining than LTT. I used to watch that for fun and GN for more technical data, but in the last year, GN's technical data has been skewed by setup decisions based in bias or misleading marketing. On one hand, I love that he calls out the misleading marketing (hopefully forcing manufactures to do better), but he usually doesn't say that's why he's doing what he's doing, so then people think the product is entirely trash or not capable of better because he said so, when what was really wrong was the marketing (i.e. RKL). The end result is that I still watch J2C for fun and now the opinions he gets to without as much technical understanding and data end up being just as likely to be true as the skewed info from GN. Again, you could see that with RKL where Jay did the same thing as GN and HWU when it launched and went "boo, garbage" then he had time to actually play with it and was like "wait a minute...OC memory just works...and the CPU actually overclocks for huge gains...what the heck?!"...because just like everyone else, he barely tried to test it fully at launch. I do think it is fair that they call out the manufacturers every single time on the pricing. I think the original MSRPs (pre 80-ti-launch) were not too far off the reasonable mark, but then everything went crazy and I think you're completely right that now they're just gouging trying to make up where they could have been making more money all along. Just a money grab, and for that reason, I'm glad Steve did call them out for that.
 
I just thought I'd be clear that my comments on GN were generalities of their trends over the last year, not specifically that video. I have a couple small problems with that video, but overall, I agree with what he's saying on that one.

enewt
I think a few of us already feel pretty blanched at this point. I will try to do my part by using Mrs. Dash and remaining positive.
  
Unless the servers completely collapse, Thursday may be the day a bunch of us can conclude our watch, vacate the wall and expand our diet beyond our community s'mores. Let's hope Thursday's drop is a tsunami of gaming goodness. 
 
Please remember to give your F5 finger a good night's sleep tonight.
 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!

Nike_7688

johcamp21

Nike_7688

enewt
Oh goodness...Steve hates it...Gamer Nexus 3080 Ti Review.

I mean, it is not AMD, and it is expensive so of course he hates it. It is currently "in style" to hate everything from Intel and Nvidia on Youtube, so that's the direction of his channel. The one thing I hope that comes from it is that it pushes Intel and Nvidia to make better products and support customers better. There'd be nothing wrong with that. It just seems that most of the youtubers are going for rage reviews and "sick burns" to get more views than just reporting the data. I still like his show and watch it from time to time, but the more of a meme the show becomes and farther from a technical and logical approach to reviews, the less I like it. I just don't like that he says literally anything and the mass-market repeats it as "gospel" when sometimes he is actually wrong.
Edit for clarity: I totally agree with Steve that the $1200 MSRP is too much.

I think Steve is fed up with the supply situation all around and I think that bleeds into his work. Not sure how it affects his business though. It's kind of hard to churn out technical videos when people aren't really going to use them for information on their purchase. How could they? They have to buy whatever they can find. A review isn't going to weigh very heavily on many people purchase decisions in this environment. more of a "deal with it" attitude seems to be going around.
 
The other thing that I think irks him is in general the trend we are seeing with thermals and power on these cards. We may be reaching a critical mass where current typical GPU design just isn't going to cut it anymore. The 3080ti averages between 90-100c memory temp during testing. They should never put a brand new product out like that. The whole idea that these things can run at these temps just seems suspect as hell. Most plastics have a melting point between 60-90c. I mean when is lackadaisical thermal design going to become a concern? I understand more processing = more power but there needs to be some semblance of advancement in the thermal solutions.
 
I think there is definitely some clickbaiting here, but look around youtube. Every single one of them does this. It's the environment society demands. Can't be successful without it and it would be foolish to try. His points though remain solid. Price vs performance increase is not there and it's just Nvidia trying to capitalize on the market. There is nothing wrong with that but they just need to quit acting like it is anything else. Not sure if you watched his AMD 6700xt video but he basically did the same to them while pumping up the 3080 and 3060ti so I'm not sure I agree with your AMD fanboy undertone. Besides AMD has been putting out some kickass products lately and I'm sure I don't need to tell you what team blue is doing. 

Yeah, I'm not saying he is 100% pro-AMD all the time lol, sorry I guess I left that kind of vague. I think it mainly boils down to AMD has been doing much better the last couple years and he's riding that wave of popularity because that's what keeps his channel popular and successful. Also, I totally agree GN is not alone in this. They are just one of the more popular and widely quoted sites. Also, their titles have been going more and more click-bait, which makes them stand out as more of a meme than some of the others. I think your points on thermals and power usage are valid and I mostly agree with them. As I said, I do hope that Steve (and others)'s tone and direction have the outcome of pushing manufacturers to do better.

Rafaeld500
Is it one per household? or can we sign up for multiple cards and be in a queue for each?

guneet
Where can I see the prices for the 3080 Ti SKU's on the EVGA website?
 

philipma1957
Good luck with 3070ti and 3080ti signups
 
Newegg has an Evga 3080 in the shuffle today
 
You have to buy it with and evga psu if you win it.
 
I see Eth hash rate finally falling from a peak of 643th to 581 th. or the equivalent of 6,430,000 evga 3080s to 5,810,000 evga 3080s
 
I am thinking that we may see some release of demand pressure on gpus in June and maybe July.
 
I am hoping to see a kingpin some time this June I am number 56 or 57 on the list for the hybrid.

EAuer
Clear and no bs, and no fake outrage like HU etc. 
 

xtant3150
just to update the queue sheet (I forgot to put my name in the hat for being in the queue)...  Finally got a drop notification on the 3090 kingpin HC (higher end than I need, but beggars can't be choosers and I'm not getting anything else)...  Used your associate code enewt.  Thanks for keeping track of all of this.
 
24G-P5-3999-KR     5/6/2021 9:00:14 AM PT    Yes

ijosegomez
Thank you guys for doing this! Totally takes out the crazy of shopping for a card.

Rafaeld500

guneet
Where can I see the prices for the 3080 Ti SKU's on the EVGA website?
 

I don't think it's up yet- i just checked and it only shows 3060 ti not the 3080 ti or 3070 ti. Maybe tomorrow when the queue goes up it should be available?