firerain
This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 

firerain

rjohnson11

firerain
This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 

TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 

It costs almost the same to make a 3070 to 3090.
3080 to 3080ti does not make any sense at all.
Materials cost about the same the bigger card do have more components. But if we are looking at a 3080 to 3080ti, there is not that much change.
Labor cost the same for 3050 to 3090.
Transportation cost the same 3050 to 3090.
Insurance might be a little different but not by much. 
 
So is TSMC ripping then off?
 
Or are they ripping us off?

rjohnson11

firerain
This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 

TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 

owcraftsman
I think everyone is missing the point here. Things are going up in price every where that's a given no matter how it happens. On the other hand we have a card that with modern games barely squeaks out 40 FPS with Ray Tracing on/DLSS off and costing 2k. I don't care if its 1000 1500 or 2k it simply isn't worth it. I have lost that lovin feeling. The cost of admission for the "BEST" tech when you really can't use it smacks of another scam that drained our bank accounts and was never fully realized. SLI. Yeah the green team is on my list. If I have to compromise I can do it for a lot less. You should too. I'm not saying I will never buy another Nvidia card heck I have at least four running at my house right now, but 3xxx and 4xxx as it stands right now is lost to me.

ty_ger07

revenantx02
I wish my salary was going up at the same rate as everything else.

No kidding! My employer has frozen our wages for 2 years. Raises are always coming, but never quite happen.
I'm doing fine, but it's interesting seeing how it's harder to do fine when nothing has changed other than everything changing.

owcraftsman

kram36
Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.

The only reason we have DLSS is there were not enough tensor cores on the 2080 ti to make ray tracing an enjoyable experience. WE paid a $200 upcharge over the previous generation MSRP for said tensor cores. It was supposed to be the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. It wasn't. Still isn't. Peeps weren't happy, self included, hence we get DLSS to fix it. Then comes the 3000 series supposedly to fix it. It didn't. It hasn't. We still rely on DLSS which to be clear is a software solution. In there lies the rub, if all we needed was software then why charge us more? Like SLI I doubt they will ever get it right but they will continue to bleed us until it is no more. I'm tired of funding there R&D by paying ridiculous prices on half baked products but hey, like you say they are the best. And the 3090 ti certainly applies here. In terms of cost per FPS the 3090 ti is a 1000 dollar card in my book. At this point in time the 3080 ti is a much better value. One thing for sure I don't have to try hard to make Nvidia look bad.
"AMD fangirl"? not at all sweetie. Ive had every top of the line Nvidia GPU for 20 years and for a long time two at at time (SLI) most of them EVGA and I've been here on this forum for nearly as long so you can shove that crap where the sun don't shine.
 
as for ray tracing performance 3090 Ti

SOURCE

owcraftsman

kram36
Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.

The only reason we have DLSS is there were not enough tensor cores on the 2080 ti to make ray tracing an enjoyable experience. WE paid a $200 upcharge over the previous generation MSRP for said tensor cores. It was supposed to be the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. It wasn't. Still isn't. Peeps weren't happy, self included, hence we get DLSS to fix it. Then comes the 3000 series supposedly to fix it. It didn't. It hasn't. We still rely on DLSS which to be clear is a software solution. In there lies the rub, if all we needed was software then why charge us more? Like SLI I doubt they will ever get it right but they will continue to bleed us until it is no more. I'm tired of funding there R&D by paying ridiculous prices on half baked products but hey, like you say they are the best. And the 3090 ti certainly applies here. In terms of cost per FPS the 3090 ti is a 1000 dollar card in my book. At this point in time the 3080 ti is a much better value. One thing for sure I don't have to try hard to make Nvidia look bad.
"AMD fangirl"? not at all sweetie. Ive had every top of the line Nvidia GPU for 20 years and for a long time two at at time (SLI) most of them EVGA and I've been here on this forum for nearly as long so you can shove that crap where the sun don't shine.
 
as for ray tracing performance 3090 Ti

SOURCE