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2022/05/25 07:42:16 (permalink)
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It’s not even two months since NVIDIA introduced its new flagship gaming card. Yet, EVGA decided it is time to (temporarily) lower the price for its RTX 3090 Ti to 1899.99 USD, so 100 USD less than original listing. EVGA FTW3 RTX 3090 Ti Black is the non-overclocked model, but it ships with the same board and cooling design as FTW3 and FTW3 Ultra. It’s a massive 3.5-slot design with 30 cm length, equipped with three fans and support for ARGB lighting.
 
Unfortunately this is not a widespread promo or rebate. A quick glance at Newegg shows that RTX 3090 Ti is still selling at MSRP there, as it was for 7 weeks now. The RTX 3090 Ti has generally seen good availability since launch. The 2K USD price point is just too much for the vast majority of gamers, who would rather pick up much cheaper mid-range/high-end models instead.
 
Given how quickly we heard the rumors about next-gen dropping in mid-July, the incentive to invest so much money on soon-to-be-succeeded generation may not necessarily make sense at this point. But what do you think, is 1900 USD still too much for RTX 3090 Ti? Would RTX 3090 or Radeon RX 6950XT be a better choice here?
 
Lowering the price is definitely a good thing for anyone wanting this video card. 
 


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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 08:18:58 (permalink)
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 08:50:03 (permalink)
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    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 11:31:10 (permalink)
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    firerain
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 


    It costs almost the same to make a 3070 to 3090.
    3080 to 3080ti does not make any sense at all.
    Materials cost about the same the bigger card do have more components. But if we are looking at a 3080 to 3080ti, there is not that much change.
    Labor cost the same for 3050 to 3090.
    Transportation cost the same 3050 to 3090.
    Insurance might be a little different but not by much. 
     
    So is TSMC ripping then off?
     
    Or are they ripping us off?

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 11:41:46 (permalink)
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    firerain
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 


    It costs almost the same to make a 3070 to 3090.
    3080 to 3080ti does not make any sense at all.
    Materials cost about the same the bigger card do have more components. But if we are looking at a 3080 to 3080ti, there is not that much change.
    Labor cost the same for 3050 to 3090.
    Transportation cost the same 3050 to 3090.
    Insurance might be a little different but not by much. 
     
    So is TSMC ripping then off?
     
    Or are they ripping us off?


    I don't know where you're getting your information but you are completely wrong about materials, labor, transportation and insurance. TSMC costs have also gone up for the various OEMs. 

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 12:01:25 (permalink)
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    firerain
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 


    It costs almost the same to make a 3070 to 3090.
    3080 to 3080ti does not make any sense at all.
    Materials cost about the same the bigger card do have more components. But if we are looking at a 3080 to 3080ti, there is not that much change.
    Labor cost the same for 3050 to 3090.
    Transportation cost the same 3050 to 3090.
    Insurance might be a little different but not by much. 
     
    So is TSMC ripping then off?
     
    Or are they ripping us off?


    I don't know where you're getting your information but you are completely wrong about materials, labor, transportation and insurance. TSMC costs have also gone up for the various OEMs. 


    How explain? So a cargo ship full of 3050 cost much less from china then a cargo ship full of 3090ti???????

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 12:14:19 (permalink)
    NVidia sells the GPU core and memory to the manufacturers. After that, the cost for manufacturers also includes PCB, and SMD’s, as well as pass through components.

    NVidia sets the MSRP, so you could probably go on NVidia’s forums and tell them to lower the MSRP. The manufacturers don’t set the MSRP, as they try to keep costs under a specific amount so they can make a profit as well.

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 12:22:00 (permalink)
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    firerain
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 


    It costs almost the same to make a 3070 to 3090.
    3080 to 3080ti does not make any sense at all.
    Materials cost about the same the bigger card do have more components. But if we are looking at a 3080 to 3080ti, there is not that much change.
    Labor cost the same for 3050 to 3090.
    Transportation cost the same 3050 to 3090.
    Insurance might be a little different but not by much. 
     
    So is TSMC ripping then off?
     
    Or are they ripping us off?


    I don't know where you're getting your information but you are completely wrong about materials, labor, transportation and insurance. TSMC costs have also gone up for the various OEMs. 


    How explain? So a cargo ship full of 3050 cost much less from china then a cargo ship full of 3090ti???????




    Yes, it would cost less to ship a lower end card then a higher end card. XFX can explain...
     
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 16:09:25 (permalink)
    I think everyone is missing the point here. Things are going up in price every where that's a given no matter how it happens. On the other hand we have a card that with modern games barely squeaks out 40 FPS with Ray Tracing on/DLSS off and costing 2k. I don't care if its 1000 1500 or 2k it simply isn't worth it. I have lost that lovin feeling. The cost of admission for the "BEST" tech when you really can't use it smacks of another scam that drained our bank accounts and was never fully realized. SLI. Yeah the green team is on my list. If I have to compromise I can do it for a lot less. You should too. I'm not saying I will never buy another Nvidia card heck I have at least four running at my house right now, but 3xxx and 4xxx as it stands right now is lost to me.
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 21:24:13 (permalink)
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    I think everyone is missing the point here. Things are going up in price every where that's a given no matter how it happens. On the other hand we have a card that with modern games barely squeaks out 40 FPS with Ray Tracing on/DLSS off and costing 2k. I don't care if its 1000 1500 or 2k it simply isn't worth it. I have lost that lovin feeling. The cost of admission for the "BEST" tech when you really can't use it smacks of another scam that drained our bank accounts and was never fully realized. SLI. Yeah the green team is on my @#$% list. If I have to compromise I can do it for a lot less. You should too. I'm not saying I will never buy another Nvidia card heck I have at least four running at my house right now, but 3xxx and 4xxx as it stands right now is lost to me.


    Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/25 23:02:20 (permalink)
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    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 




    Correct but you can't say inflation around here but apparently that might be too political.  
     
    Of course that just part of the costs and the ramp up also adds to cost as well as other ingredients.  It's a circus show.  Hope they can figure it out but it's not easy.  They mostly have data on gamer sales over the years but what about possible miners and scaplers?  It's uncontrolable at this point.  Different times and different measures but we shall see and I suspect the same will be this release.

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/26 00:01:10 (permalink)
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    firerain
    This card should be 1000. 3090 > 900, 3080ti > 850, 308012g >800 and so on. We are in a recession. 


    TSMC, materials, labor, transportation, and insurance costs have all risen. 




    Correct but you can't say inflation around here but apparently that might be too political.  
     
    Of course that just part of the costs and the ramp up also adds to cost as well as other ingredients.  It's a circus show.  Hope they can figure it out but it's not easy.  They mostly have data on gamer sales over the years but what about possible miners and scaplers?  It's uncontrolable at this point.  Different times and different measures but we shall see and I suspect the same will be this release.




    But this is below MSRP with free shipping. So I guess the point is the deal is even better since prices for everything have increased while this time prices decreased?

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/26 00:06:04 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/27 14:53:57 (permalink)
    I wish my salary was going up at the same rate as everything else.
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/27 18:03:52 (permalink)
    owcraftsman
    I think everyone is missing the point here. Things are going up in price every where that's a given no matter how it happens. On the other hand we have a card that with modern games barely squeaks out 40 FPS with Ray Tracing on/DLSS off and costing 2k. I don't care if its 1000 1500 or 2k it simply isn't worth it. I have lost that lovin feeling. The cost of admission for the "BEST" tech when you really can't use it smacks of another scam that drained our bank accounts and was never fully realized. SLI. Yeah the green team is on my list. If I have to compromise I can do it for a lot less. You should too. I'm not saying I will never buy another Nvidia card heck I have at least four running at my house right now, but 3xxx and 4xxx as it stands right now is lost to me.


    40 fps??  What are you playing on an 4k or 8k monitor or something?  If you are getting that low of FPS, then something is wrong with your system my man.
     
    And yea you are right.  AMD has smokin deals on cards right now (and value in terms of FPS/$), so be happy and go get one of those.  No point in causing a stink.  Nvidia is going to have to stay competitive or they will lose their prized market share.
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/27 21:01:20 (permalink)
    revenantx02
    I wish my salary was going up at the same rate as everything else.

    No kidding! My employer has frozen our wages for 2 years. Raises are always coming, but never quite happen.
    I'm doing fine, but it's interesting seeing how it's harder to do fine when nothing has changed other than everything changing.
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/28 16:10:24 (permalink)
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    I wish my salary was going up at the same rate as everything else.

    No kidding! My employer has frozen our wages for 2 years. Raises are always coming, but never quite happen.
    I'm doing fine, but it's interesting seeing how it's harder to do fine when nothing has changed other than everything changing.



    things are getting very agitated..
    here in EUROPE the interested rate gonna rise in JUNE.. the European central bank already alerted for this fact!
    people who have car or house credits gonna have a nasty surprise! ( i have none and lets hope my landlord doesn't rise the rent cost in AUGUST)
    ALSO
    inflation due to the current war has risen substantially.. everything is more pricier with no doubt
    Here in Portugal the "average salary" gets shaved off in almost 30% for taxes so you'll get around 70 to maybe 75% of your total brute salary amount
    alto most of the citizens overall get minimum wage ( 700 euros per month)
     
    he are losing alot of purchasing power..  a lot.  and we didn't had much of that in the past!
     
     

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/28 17:40:30 (permalink)
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    Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.


    The only reason we have DLSS is there were not enough tensor cores on the 2080 ti to make ray tracing an enjoyable experience. WE paid a $200 upcharge over the previous generation MSRP for said tensor cores. It was supposed to be the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. It wasn't. Still isn't. Peeps weren't happy, self included, hence we get DLSS to fix it. Then comes the 3000 series supposedly to fix it. It didn't. It hasn't. We still rely on DLSS which to be clear is a software solution. In there lies the rub, if all we needed was software then why charge us more? Like SLI I doubt they will ever get it right but they will continue to bleed us until it is no more. I'm tired of funding there R&D by paying ridiculous prices on half baked products but hey, like you say they are the best. And the 3090 ti certainly applies here. In terms of cost per FPS the 3090 ti is a 1000 dollar card in my book. At this point in time the 3080 ti is a much better value. One thing for sure I don't have to try hard to make Nvidia look bad.
    "AMD fangirl"? not at all sweetie. Ive had every top of the line Nvidia GPU for 20 years and for a long time two at at time (SLI) most of them EVGA and I've been here on this forum for nearly as long so you can shove that crap where the sun don't shine.
     
    as for ray tracing performance 3090 Ti

    SOURCE
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/30 01:57:29 (permalink)
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    Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.


    The only reason we have DLSS is there were not enough tensor cores on the 2080 ti to make ray tracing an enjoyable experience. WE paid a $200 upcharge over the previous generation MSRP for said tensor cores. It was supposed to be the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. It wasn't. Still isn't. Peeps weren't happy, self included, hence we get DLSS to fix it. Then comes the 3000 series supposedly to fix it. It didn't. It hasn't. We still rely on DLSS which to be clear is a software solution. In there lies the rub, if all we needed was software then why charge us more? Like SLI I doubt they will ever get it right but they will continue to bleed us until it is no more. I'm tired of funding there R&D by paying ridiculous prices on half baked products but hey, like you say they are the best. And the 3090 ti certainly applies here. In terms of cost per FPS the 3090 ti is a 1000 dollar card in my book. At this point in time the 3080 ti is a much better value. One thing for sure I don't have to try hard to make Nvidia look bad.
    "AMD fangirl"? not at all sweetie. Ive had every top of the line Nvidia GPU for 20 years and for a long time two at at time (SLI) most of them EVGA and I've been here on this forum for nearly as long so you can shove that crap where the sun don't shine.
     
    as for ray tracing performance 3090 Ti

    SOURCE




    ahh raytracing... 
    that still has a lot of ways to go...the 2000 gen was a flop in performance and it was already more costly compared to 1000 gen
    and this was PRE covid 19.
     
    now?  things are just impossible!
     
    remember that the game CONTROL had an option we can enable ray tracing on 1000gEn ( i tried it..)  and just shaved by half MY FPS!!!! not viable! 
     
    maybe 4000gen will be much much more solid.. im just aiming for 5000 gen because  we are all still on a chip shortage and things are not gonna be easier for the next 12 months at least!
     
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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/30 05:50:40 (permalink)
    Miguell
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    I wish my salary was going up at the same rate as everything else.

    No kidding! My employer has frozen our wages for 2 years. Raises are always coming, but never quite happen.
    I'm doing fine, but it's interesting seeing how it's harder to do fine when nothing has changed other than everything changing.



    things are getting very agitated..
    here in EUROPE the interested rate gonna rise in JUNE.. the European central bank already alerted for this fact!
    people who have car or house credits gonna have a nasty surprise! ( i have none and lets hope my landlord doesn't rise the rent cost in AUGUST)
    ALSO
    inflation due to the current war has risen substantially.. everything is more pricier with no doubt
    Here in Portugal the "average salary" gets shaved off in almost 30% for taxes so you'll get around 70 to maybe 75% of your total brute salary amount
    alto most of the citizens overall get minimum wage ( 700 euros per month)
     
    he are losing alot of purchasing power..  a lot.  and we didn't had much of that in the past!
     
     


    You believing the war is causing our inflation issue.
     

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    Re: EVGA is currently selling GeForce RTX 3090 Ti under MSRP 2022/05/30 05:58:35 (permalink)
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    Why would you turn off DLSS while using Ray Tracing when you have that option? That simply makes ZERO sense unless you were a AMD fangirl trying to make Nvidia look bad. I won't say the 3090 Ti should command a $2k price tag, but it is the best gaming graphics card on the market.


    The only reason we have DLSS is there were not enough tensor cores on the 2080 ti to make ray tracing an enjoyable experience. WE paid a $200 upcharge over the previous generation MSRP for said tensor cores. It was supposed to be the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. It wasn't. Still isn't. Peeps weren't happy, self included, hence we get DLSS to fix it. Then comes the 3000 series supposedly to fix it. It didn't. It hasn't. We still rely on DLSS which to be clear is a software solution. In there lies the rub, if all we needed was software then why charge us more? Like SLI I doubt they will ever get it right but they will continue to bleed us until it is no more. I'm tired of funding there R&D by paying ridiculous prices on half baked products but hey, like you say they are the best. And the 3090 ti certainly applies here. In terms of cost per FPS the 3090 ti is a 1000 dollar card in my book. At this point in time the 3080 ti is a much better value. One thing for sure I don't have to try hard to make Nvidia look bad.
    "AMD fangirl"? not at all sweetie. Ive had every top of the line Nvidia GPU for 20 years and for a long time two at at time (SLI) most of them EVGA and I've been here on this forum for nearly as long so you can shove that crap where the sun don't shine.
     
    as for ray tracing performance 3090 Ti

    SOURCE


    Ray Tracing is the biggest leap in GPU tech in a decade. 60 FPS at 4k with Ray Tracing is perfectly playable. Where is the issue? Why would you want to turn DLSS off from your previous post?
     
    I do agree the prices are too high.
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