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2019/09/13 09:08:12 (permalink)
Hello everyone!
 
Since ASUS already spoiled to everyone support of incoming Cascade Lake-X HEDT CPUs (named as Intel Core i9 10000 X-Series) by their X299 boards i would like to know are EVGA "interested" in adding these in board CPU support list? Is it possible? Should i look forward to get one?
 
P.S. I bought for myself Core i7-9800X, which i search around globe for 4 months for MSRP, when finally got it i keep it for another 6 months (while collected other parts for PC) and decided to sell it and wait for new release from Intel (for new CPUs or price drop on last generation). Box never was opened and i was second owner.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/14 08:23:58 (permalink)
Coming in future...…….…………..

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/14 08:42:45 (permalink)
If one manufacturer is supporting, then more than likely all will be. Right now, it is a little early, and since intel has always switched chipsets after two CPU launches, I would be very curious to see if they are actually going to do this or if Intel will force the chipset update again.

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 08:10:25 (permalink)
More "intel":

ASRock updated BIOS for their X299 motherboards and description have got next "Supports New Intel Core™ X-Series Processors".
 
At the same time, GIGABYTE decided to release new motherboards: X299X AORUS MASTER, X299X AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE, X299X DESIGNARE EX, X299X DESIGNARE EX-10G.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 11:56:07 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby rusTORK 2019/09/20 12:49:49
I can't say I have any idea what you guys are talking about really, referring to unreleased CPUs that almost assuredly would be under NDA if they do, in fact, exist....
 
However, we will be releasing a BIOS today (most likely) that supports some new features for OC Robot, AVX2 for the built-in stress test, support for 32GB DIMMs, TjMax setting range options, and support for next-gen CPUs. 
 
I also understand that should such CPUs exist, they will also be able to boot into the BIOS with our X299 boards with the existing BIOS, where you can then update the BIOS to the latest version.
 
But I doubt that has anything to do with what you guys are asking about. 
 
On a more pointed note, we don't list products on our support list until the NDA/embargo expires.  We take our obligations with partners seriously.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 11:59:12 (permalink)
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support for 32GB DIMMs

A-die?
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 13:36:13 (permalink)
EVGATech_LeeM  Thx for the good News :) We all get it ;)

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 13:36:18 (permalink)
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support for 32GB DIMMs

A-die?


My understanding is that it should work.  There's no die check during memory training.  Right now, the only kit we have to test, which passed, is the Corsair CMK64GX4M2D3000C16.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 13:45:11 (permalink)
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There's no die check during memory training. Right now, the only kit we have to test, which passed, is the Corsair CMK64GX4M2D3000C16.

I see. It's may be Micron B-die.
 
Here is Thaiphoon screenshot:
https://imgur.com/3vlUPZK
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 13:54:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rusTORK 2019/09/20 14:06:54
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I see. It's may be Micron B-die.
Here is Thaiphoon screenshot:
https://imgur.com/3vlUPZK

On fact its relabeled ics by SpecTek.

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/20 16:42:37 (permalink)
I've also tested Samsung 32GB M-die 2666MHz modules, they work with new BIOS.
Overclocks fine too, was able to run 3800MHz in 3Dmark :).

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/21 04:06:12 (permalink)
Can we get per core voltage control added to a bios pretty please.
 
Edit : Just saw the release notes for 1.19 , per core voltage control was infact added!
 
Thanks a bunch! EVGA You guys rock.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/09/21 07:46:30 (permalink)
Has anyone already tried the new OC Robot algorithm? Are there any interesting differences and an overclocking result different from the previous version?

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/01 14:33:59 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/01 16:34:12 (permalink)
Liking the price drop to (finally) compete with AMD's Ryzen.

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/02 13:07:20 (permalink)
Interestiing, where is it 16 Cores CPU?

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/05 19:44:02 (permalink)
Despite the fact most of X299 boards will work with Cascade Lake-X CPUs, I think buying a new board would be a better solution, to take advantage of updated features, like hardware Spectre and Meltdown fixes, or extra 4 PCI-e lanes. Original LGA2066 were designed to utilize 44 PCI-e lanes at most.
 
A lot of original X299 boards were rushed and not fully ready for 18 core CPUs. Intel rushed the announcement to be ahead of AMD; if you remember, Skylake-X CPU were announced in batches, with 10 core CPU being the top model in the initial wave of release (7900X), while 12-18 core models were announced later, when the market was already full of X299 boards, which couldn't handle 18 core models due to insufficient VRM design.  Asus and Asrock shortly after readied updated versions of some of their X299 based boards.
 
Now, when the motherboard makers already know what to expect from Intel, the new boards from well known manufacturers should be fully ready to power 165W TDP chips. (Asus's lower end models of Cascade Lake-X boards have 12 phase VRM systems, while their original high end LGA2066 boards only had 8 phases.) And most importantly, new boards will fully utilize all 48 PCI-e lanes new CPUs have to offer.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 06:09:57 (permalink)
Ha-ha EVGA Dark is already ready initially for 18 cores (I even think that it’s even more ), so I see no reason to change it to another board, everything was done there with a much larger margin than any gigabytes or msi & co. If of course you have something completely flimsy, then you can look in the direction of new boards, but here the choice again comes down to Evga Dark LOL. If you take the top-end Asus RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA, there are only three psi-express slots, this is a fiasco. This is what the right design will entail.
https://www.evga.com/articles/01369/intel-x299-update/

 
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Despite the fact most of X299 boards will work with Cascade Lake-X CPUs, I think buying a new board would be a better solution, to take advantage of updated features, like hardware Spectre and Meltdown fixes, or extra 4 PCI-e lanes. Original LGA2066 were designed to utilize 44 PCI-e lanes at most.
 
A lot of original X299 boards were rushed and not fully ready for 18 core CPUs. Intel rushed the announcement to be ahead of AMD; if you remember, Skylake-X CPU were announced in batches, with 10 core CPU being the top model in the initial wave of release (7900X), while 12-18 core models were announced later, when the market was already full of X299 boards, which couldn't handle 18 core models due to insufficient VRM design.  Asus and Asrock shortly after readied updated versions of some of their X299 based boards.
 
Now, when the motherboard makers already know what to expect from Intel, the new boards from well known manufacturers should be fully ready to power 165W TDP chips. (Asus's lower end models of Cascade Lake-X boards have 12 phase VRM systems, while their original high end LGA2066 boards only had 8 phases.) And most importantly, new boards will fully utilize all 48 PCI-e lanes new CPUs have to offer.





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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 07:21:31 (permalink)

48 x Gen 3 but only 44 are used on X299 DARK
 
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 09:48:20 (permalink)
Sure, but show me an owner than even using 40 on X299 DARK ;). About security fixes - mitigations are already implemented in BIOS/microcode on X299 DARK even for Skylake-X, and hardened security fixes in CascadeLake-X are fully supported, as they are not depending on motherboard hardware, but the CPU itself. 

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 10:17:27 (permalink)
TiN_EE can u say me somthing ? hmm my first coire need to 4.7 1.249V and if i use pre core andd give all core for 50 and use per core first core to 1 all cores is 47 not 50
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 11:20:35 (permalink)
4 videocard (X99 motherboard). 
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 12:16:16 (permalink)
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Sure, but show me an owner than even using 40 on X299 DARK ;). About security fixes - mitigations are already implemented in BIOS/microcode on X299 DARK even for Skylake-X, and hardened security fixes in CascadeLake-X are fully supported, as they are not depending on motherboard hardware, but the CPU itself. 




I have a friend with an X299 Dark that had to upgrade from and 28 lane CPU to an 44 as he is running video capture cards and I think an add in USB card or two as well - he was pushing the lane limits
 
TiN_EE can the X299 Dark use all the lanes of these new 10***x CPU's with a changes in the BIOS or is the 44 lane limit hard baked into the chipset hardware?


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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 13:33:39 (permalink)
GGTV-JonTiN_EE can the X299 Dark use all the lanes of these new 10***x CPU's with a changes in the BIOS or is the 44 lane limit hard baked into the chipset hardware?


PCIE lane wiring is via traces on motherboard to the CPU socket so you cannot just support more lanes on a board, it has to be redesigned completely.
 
This is unfortunate side effect of everything being on CPU now, it is not like old CPU where moving to new motherboard gives DDR3/PCIE2.0 instead of DDR2/PCIE1.0, etc.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 14:56:57 (permalink)
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GGTV-JonTiN_EE can the X299 Dark use all the lanes of these new 10***x CPU's with a changes in the BIOS or is the 44 lane limit hard baked into the chipset hardware?


PCIE lane wiring is via traces on motherboard to the CPU socket so you cannot just support more lanes on a board, it has to be redesigned completely.
 
This is unfortunate side effect of everything being on CPU now, it is not like old CPU where moving to new motherboard gives DDR3/PCIE2.0 instead of DDR2/PCIE1.0, etc.




I was referring to how some things get disabled depending on what CPU is used and what devices are used = where there is lane sharing between U.2 and M.2 or PCIe sockets and M.2 devices. With the increased lanes in the CPU is it possible to unlock them (ie being able to use both U.2 and M.2 ports at the same time) or is it a limitation to what the current chipset on the board can do. That would not be a trace issue.
Asking for all 16x PCIe sockets on the board to be 16 lanes would be an trace issue, as some are hardwired for 8 lanes


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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 17:26:33 (permalink)
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GGTV-JonTiN_EE can the X299 Dark use all the lanes of these new 10***x CPU's with a changes in the BIOS or is the 44 lane limit hard baked into the chipset hardware?


PCIE lane wiring is via traces on motherboard to the CPU socket so you cannot just support more lanes on a board, it has to be redesigned completely.
 
This is unfortunate side effect of everything being on CPU now, it is not like old CPU where moving to new motherboard gives DDR3/PCIE2.0 instead of DDR2/PCIE1.0, etc.




I was referring to how some things get disabled depending on what CPU is used and what devices are used = where there is lane sharing between U.2 and M.2 or PCIe sockets and M.2 devices. With the increased lanes in the CPU is it possible to unlock them (ie being able to use both U.2 and M.2 ports at the same time) or is it a limitation to what the current chipset on the board can do. That would not be a trace issue.
Asking for all 16x PCIe sockets on the board to be 16 lanes would be an trace issue, as some are hardwired for 8 lanes





 
I have the same question.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/06 19:17:45 (permalink)
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Ha-ha EVGA Dark is already ready initially for 18 cores (I even think that it’s even more ), so I see no reason to change it to another board, everything was done there with a much larger margin than any gigabytes or msi & co. If of course you have something completely flimsy, then you can look in the direction of new boards, but here the choice again comes down to Evga Dark LOL. If you take the top-end Asus RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA, there are only three psi-express slots, this is a fiasco. This is what the right design will entail.



X299 Dark wasn't released on Skylake-X launch date, EVGA had plenty of time to learn from others' mistakes, and even then, X299 Dark went through several iterations before being released to market, just compare the final board design to it's early prototypes.

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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/07 22:13:33 (permalink)
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GGTV-JonTiN_EE can the X299 Dark use all the lanes of these new 10***x CPU's with a changes in the BIOS or is the 44 lane limit hard baked into the chipset hardware?


PCIE lane wiring is via traces on motherboard to the CPU socket so you cannot just support more lanes on a board, it has to be redesigned completely.
 
This is unfortunate side effect of everything being on CPU now, it is not like old CPU where moving to new motherboard gives DDR3/PCIE2.0 instead of DDR2/PCIE1.0, etc.




I was referring to how some things get disabled depending on what CPU is used and what devices are used = where there is lane sharing between U.2 and M.2 or PCIe sockets and M.2 devices. With the increased lanes in the CPU is it possible to unlock them (ie being able to use both U.2 and M.2 ports at the same time) or is it a limitation to what the current chipset on the board can do. That would not be a trace issue.
Asking for all 16x PCIe sockets on the board to be 16 lanes would be an trace issue, as some are hardwired for 8 lanes





 
I have the same question.


I as well. Could possibly reinstate the use of the u.2 ports or the PCIE slot when using m.2?
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/08 09:12:11 (permalink)
Sorry guys.  I know what you're thinking, but it won't work that way. 
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark and Intel Cascade Lake-X (Core i9-10000 X-Series) 2019/10/08 11:54:03 (permalink)
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Sorry guys.  I know what you're thinking, but it won't work that way. 




Ok, kinda figured it was a limitation of the chip but wanted an official statement


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