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2019/12/05 22:41:11 (permalink)
 
Any owners here of the 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid card? - specifically the HYBRID FTW3, not the ICX or Hydro models..
 
I'm reading a few posts about the EVGA Hybrid kids having very loud pumps, but I'm not sure if that is with this particular 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid model, or only with the hybrid kits that EVGA sells and owners mount them onto their existing cards. I have a Titan X (Pascal) which I added a Hybrid kit EVGA made for it a few years ago, and the pump runs smoothly and quietly, even though it runs at 100%, so I'm wondering why these more recent kits are getting complaints, and, again, if it impacts the FTW3 Ultra Hybrid card.
 
Also trying to get a grip on how well these cards overclock - could I expect to clock it at 2GHz without any issue?
 
Are the temps ok on full load for extended periods? I expect they are fine, but would like to confirm.
 
I'm very tempted to buy one... but at the same time also tempted to wait to see if a 2080Ti Super comes out (which supposedly NVidia deny, but who believes anything they say lol), or wait for the 3080 series which may come out in about 6 months from now, but it could also easily be another year from now too...
 
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/11 20:33:08 (permalink)
     
    Hmm.. no replies, but there seems to be a concerning number of threads with hybrid pump noise issues and no resolution. I have the money ready to go, but looks like I'll just stay with my Titan.
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/11 23:36:30 (permalink)
    Hello I have a 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid no issue no coil wine or other i recomand it 
     i run perfecty fine i am happy with it perfecty silent
     
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/11 23:40:08 (permalink)
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    Hello I have a 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid no issue no coil wine or other i recomand it 
     i run perfecty fine i am happy with it perfecty silent

    Awesome, thanks for the reply! Have you tried overclocking it any?
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 00:15:07 (permalink)
    Pump is loud, yes. And there is no software metod to controll it. But you can take off shroud and connect pump to your motherboard. And that is known sollution for this problem.
    https://forums.evga.com/ADVICE-RTX-2080-Ti-FTW3-Ultra-Hybrid-PUMP-NOISE-Options-m2992549.aspx
     
    Hybrid version is much cooler AND quiter than air one.
     
    As for overclock - silicon lottery. But base clock is higher than asus strix for example (1770 vs 1665), asus strix is always powerlimited (330w vs 370+). My card can pass benchmakrs with gpu+120 / can sometimes pass benchmarks gpu+135 and can work well with gpu+105 but rarely crash in limited number of games (like r6s - gpu hang message), so +90 is "max stability". It means that core clock can go up to 2040mhz in games with no problems (right now AB shows me, that my max clocks was 2130). Mem is +1000 for me.
    post edited by DeadlyMercury - 2019/12/12 00:20:23

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 00:27:11 (permalink)
    my overcloking are +120 core + 1000 memory perfecty stable
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 03:55:38 (permalink)
    I had posted up in a different thread last weekend. I received my new 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid last Friday. Pump is very annoying!!! Love the performance though. I read alot (after the fact) about other peoples complaints. Decided that my best option is to try and get acclimated to the noise over time, and if not, I will replace the pump with another 3rd party one. REALLY annoying to pay that much and be that irritated over a simple matter. Good luck!
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 14:52:18 (permalink)
     
    Wow very mixed results, just luck if you get a good one by the sound of it, although that should not be the situation with a $1,500 GPU! I have my rig now sitting on my desk right next to me, so a squealing pump will definitely not be appreciated. Damn shame. I wonder what the percentage of good ones is? Thanks for your comments, I'd happily mod a cheaper card, but we shouldn't be having to do mods (no matter how minor) on a card this expensive just to get it to work the way it should be working out of the box. Guess I'm now leaning towards the wait for 3080 at this point. Bummer. Thanks again. Feel free to chime in anyone else.
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 16:03:11 (permalink)
    Could grab a kingpin with its larger 240mm rad and have a silent pump and better cooling.

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 17:00:25 (permalink)
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    Could grab a kingpin with its larger 240mm rad and have a silent pump and better cooling.

    They used a different pump on the KP?
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 18:59:50 (permalink)
    i think is pump lottery because mine are silent like cpu lottery
    the kp can do noise too even is normaly better
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 19:24:00 (permalink)
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    Wow very mixed results, just luck if you get a good one by the sound of it, although that should not be the situation with a $1,500 GPU! I have my rig now sitting on my desk right next to me, so a squealing pump will definitely not be appreciated. Damn shame. I wonder what the percentage of good ones is? Thanks for your comments, I'd happily mod a cheaper card, but we shouldn't be having to do mods (no matter how minor) on a card this expensive just to get it to work the way it should be working out of the box. Guess I'm now leaning towards the wait for 3080 at this point. Bummer. Thanks again. Feel free to chime in anyone else.
     



    Yeah it's kind of silly I suppose, here's what I did to get it running rather quiet:
     

    I've got a 2080Ti hybrid and here's how I configured it for quiet running:
     
    - Aftermarket mini-gpu to motherboard header adapter cable, plug pump into MB header
    - 2x Noctua A12 fans push pull on the radiator, plugged into MB header via Y-spliter
    - Control Pump voltage via MB "system temp", at under 35C it runs at 7.5V which is nearly silent while still being enough to start the pump at system boot.  At above 35C it jumps up to 10.5V which is definitely still quieter than 12V, but enough to cool under load.
    - Control fan speed (% PWM) so below 35C system the push pull fans run at 1000RPM, very quiet.  Above 35C they jump up to 1800RPM. 
    - Card VRM fixed at 35, 40 or 50% depending on OC profile.
     
    It idles at 26C in a 20C (68F) room.  When I go into a game it takes a couple minutes for the system to heat up and trigger the fans.  The GPU will gradually ramp up to about 50-55C depending on the load.  I've got the CPU on a matching CLC120 with push pull A12's, but the fans ramp up gradually from 1000rpm above 40C.  It's great because the machine never changes it's fan speed unless you really load it up, then it locks in at the faster fixed fan speed that is still pretty quiet, there is no ramping up and down.  Both rads are intakes in a 4U rack case.

     
    It's a pretty sweet setup, but I probably should have just gotten a 2080S or 2080Ti FTW3 air cooled.  I stepped up from a 2080 Blower to a 2080 Ti XC Gaming then added the hybrid with the mods.  Keep in mind that's 50-55C under max power 338w driving 4K, still rather quiet with the dual A12's.  Does a 16,000 gpu score in normal timespy with the highest gaming OC setting I use and those fan/pump settings.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/12 19:33:33
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 20:24:24 (permalink)
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    Wow very mixed results, just luck if you get a good one by the sound of it, although that should not be the situation with a $1,500 GPU! I have my rig now sitting on my desk right next to me, so a squealing pump will definitely not be appreciated. Damn shame. I wonder what the percentage of good ones is? Thanks for your comments, I'd happily mod a cheaper card, but we shouldn't be having to do mods (no matter how minor) on a card this expensive just to get it to work the way it should be working out of the box. Guess I'm now leaning towards the wait for 3080 at this point. Bummer. Thanks again. Feel free to chime in anyone else.

    Yeah it's kind of silly I suppose, here's what I did to get it running rather quiet:

    I've got a 2080Ti hybrid and here's how I configured it for quiet running:

    - Aftermarket mini-gpu to motherboard header adapter cable, plug pump into MB header
    - 2x Noctua A12 fans push pull on the radiator, plugged into MB header via Y-spliter
    - Control Pump voltage via MB "system temp", at under 35C it runs at 7.5V which is nearly silent while still being enough to start the pump at system boot.  At above 35C it jumps up to 10.5V which is definitely still quieter than 12V, but enough to cool under load.
    - Control fan speed (% PWM) so below 35C system the push pull fans run at 1000RPM, very quiet.  Above 35C they jump up to 1800RPM. 
    - Card VRM fixed at 35, 40 or 50% depending on OC profile.

    It idles at 26C in a 20C (68F) room.  When I go into a game it takes a couple minutes for the system to heat up and trigger the fans.  The GPU will gradually ramp up to about 50-55C depending on the load.  I've got the CPU on a matching CLC120 with push pull A12's, but the fans ramp up gradually from 1000rpm above 40C.  It's great because the machine never changes it's fan speed unless you really load it up, then it locks in at the faster fixed fan speed that is still pretty quiet, there is no ramping up and down.  Both rads are intakes in a 4U rack case.

    It's a pretty sweet setup, but I probably should have just gotten a 2080S or 2080Ti FTW3 air cooled.  I stepped up from a 2080 Blower to a 2080 Ti XC Gaming then added the hybrid with the mods.  Keep in mind that's 50-55C under max power 338w driving 4K, still rather quiet with the dual A12's.  Does a 16,000 gpu score in normal timespy with the highest gaming OC setting I use and those fan/pump settings.

    I doubt I'll ever go back to an air-cooled GPU, the AiO units are far superior for performance, and noise usually, lol. My Titan @ 2GHz with the EVGA hybrid on it runs about the same temps as your 2080 - I also switched out the radiator fan for a 'bequiet!' hi-speed PWM fan which is hooked into a motherboard header, while the internal hybrid fan and pump run on a curve with MSI Afterburner - or perhaps the pump runs 100% 24/7, but it's quiet either way. The CPU cooler is an EVGA CLC-280 and runs the same way; 'bequiet!' fans running off the motherboard using a BIOS curve, and the pump runs 100% 24/7 - also very quiet. Surprised EVGA used noisy pumps on the 2080 Hybrids, I wonder if that was a cost-saving measure (which is a really bad decision if it was), or if these new pumps are just a bad batch, or they intentionally sacrificed noise for performance, or something else - they don't seem to have anything to say on the issue unfortunately.
     
    I'm also taking a guess that the FTW3 hybrids they occasionally have in stock now are returned units rather than new ones off the line, so the chances of getting a quiet one now are probably zero.
     
    post edited by Nereus - 2019/12/12 20:30:31

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 21:08:20 (permalink)
    If you wanted, you could go with the choice of a air cooled GPU and grab a NZXT G12 bracket.  Grab some Noctua A12 fans for push and pull or just push on a 240mm AIO compatible radiator from Corsair and the likes.  Put some MX-4 and call it a day.  Should be nice an cool and quiet.
     

     

     

     
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/12 21:57:41 (permalink)
     
    Interesting. Kinda fugly looking though, but does the job. Video here.
     
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/13 02:10:22 (permalink)
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    Interesting. Kinda fugly looking though, but does the job. Video here.
     



    True but some people have gotten creative with them by adding a aRGB/RGB LED strip under them to give it a nice ambient glow.
     


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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/13 04:45:27 (permalink)
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    Wow very mixed results, just luck if you get a good one by the sound of it, although that should not be the situation with a $1,500 GPU! I have my rig now sitting on my desk right next to me, so a squealing pump will definitely not be appreciated. Damn shame.

    I don't think it is mixed :) 2080ti ftw3 hybrid is a great card in most aspects, but pump is just loud. Not by some malfunction or something like that - but by the fact it has high rpm and it could not control its rpm due to design: it is dc pump, not pwm one and you are using same header for rad fans.
     
    So every pump on ftw3 is loud. It is just about user experience - somebody used to sit near noisy pc, somebody can't hear high frequency noise good, somebody have a really good case that dumping all noise, somebody just uses headphones and don't give anything about noise. And somebody like quiet pc (my pc so quiet that I can even hear some electrical noise from my SSDs :) ). And solution for that is to control pump or to use full cover waterblock with d5 pump (and control it too ;) ).

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/13 07:21:24 (permalink)
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    somebody can't hear high frequency noise good, somebody just uses headphones and don't give anything about noise.

     
    Ehh?? What did you say?
     
    (LOL I wandered back in here after several years, planning a build soon and looking at the 2070 Hybrid.)
     
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/16 21:08:31 (permalink)
    I had the EVGA hybrid kit installed on my 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra for the last ~8 months. Considering it only uses a slim 120mm radiator, it performs quite well. Adding a 2nd fan in push/pull helped improve performance even further (hovered around 54-58c under load with fans at 100% and graphics settings pretty maxed on a 120hz 3440x1440 monitor). However, I did find the pump whine to be notably audible and pretty annoying, especially when I was just trying to work with low load and minimal fan speed. Mine sounded like a beer fridge and I could even hear it from the hallway, outside of my home office (30+ feet from the computer).  

    Whether you get an air card and throw the hybrid kit on it or get a card with the hybrid kit pre-installed, EVGA has previously confirmed that the pump is the same. Like DeadlyMercury said, some are simply able to hear it while others aren't. 

    With that said, I recently got fed up with the pump noise and used it as an excuse to finally take on building my own custom loop. I must admit that it's a huge relief to no longer hear the pump whine from the EVGA pump every day, while trying to work. The EKWB D5 pump that's now in the system is dead silent from anything more than 4" away, even at full RPM. And it truly is amazing what some larger radiators can do. I now keep my fans capped at 1200RPM or below (basically inaudible) and my max GPU temps almost never exceed 39c, even with an overclock of +1000 mem and +110 core.

    To summarize, The hybrid cards/kits are decent for cooling, compared to the air coolers. But the EVGA pump is loud and if I could do it all over again I would have saved the money I spent on the EVGA hybrid kit + 280mm AIO for the CPU and put it towards a custom loop build, right off the bat. In fact, in retrospect, I also would have opted for a cheaper 2080 ti XC Ultra, 2080 ti Black, or even the bare bones 2080 ti GAMING over the FTW3 Ultra. The savings from those 3 changes would have paid for the entire custom loop, providing much better cooling, offering the same usable performance, and eliminating all noise. 

    Expensive lesson learned, in my case.  
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/16 22:19:44 (permalink)
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    I had the EVGA hybrid kit installed on my 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra for the last ~8 months. Considering it only uses a slim 120mm radiator, it performs quite well. Adding a 2nd fan in push/pull helped improve performance even further (hovered around 54-58c under load with fans at 100% and graphics settings pretty maxed on a 120hz 3440x1440 monitor). However, I did find the pump whine to be notably audible and pretty annoying, especially when I was just trying to work with low load and minimal fan speed. Mine sounded like a beer fridge and I could even hear it from the hallway, outside of my home office (30+ feet from the computer).  

    Whether you get an air card and throw the hybrid kit on it or get a card with the hybrid kit pre-installed, EVGA has previously confirmed that the pump is the same. Like DeadlyMercury said, some are simply able to hear it while others aren't. 

    With that said, I recently got fed up with the pump noise and used it as an excuse to finally take on building my own custom loop. I must admit that it's a huge relief to no longer hear the pump whine from the EVGA pump every day, while trying to work. The EKWB D5 pump that's now in the system is dead silent from anything more than 4" away, even at full RPM. And it truly is amazing what some larger radiators can do. I now keep my fans capped at 1200RPM or below (basically inaudible) and my max GPU temps almost never exceed 39c, even with an overclock of +1000 mem and +110 core.

    To summarize, The hybrid cards/kits are decent for cooling, compared to the air coolers. But the EVGA pump is loud and if I could do it all over again I would have saved the money I spent on the EVGA hybrid kit + 280mm AIO for the CPU and put it towards a custom loop build, right off the bat. In fact, in retrospect, I also would have opted for a cheaper 2080 ti XC Ultra, 2080 ti Black, or even the bare bones 2080 ti GAMING over the FTW3 Ultra. The savings from those 3 changes would have paid for the entire custom loop, providing much better cooling, offering the same usable performance, and eliminating all noise. 

    Expensive lesson learned, in my case.  

    Thanks for that post! I've run custom loops before and they are unbeatable for performance, but I just don't have the time to maintain one these days.. and might be a bit of a squash in my current case. EVGA dropped the ball on this most recent pump sadly (or someone dropped the ball on them), and I know they can source good ones - my existing EVGA hybrid GPU cooler and the EVGA AiO CPU cooler are both near silent running at 100%. Damn.
     
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/17 06:04:05 (permalink)
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    Thanks for that post! I've run custom loops before and they are unbeatable for performance, but I just don't have the time to maintain one these days.. and might be a bit of a squash in my current case. EVGA dropped the ball on this most recent pump sadly (or someone dropped the ball on them), and I know they can source good ones - my existing EVGA hybrid GPU cooler and the EVGA AiO CPU cooler are both near silent running at 100%. Damn.


    Understandable. Custom loops definitely aren't for everyone. I'm sure at some point down the road I will no longer want to deal with the maintenance and will go another route. In your scenario, I'd say the best bet is to get a Kraken G12 bracket (as mentioned above) and throw a Kraken x62 on it. Then you'll have much better cooling than the Hybrid kit and no pump noise. It won't look as clean, but I'd say the trade-off is worth it. 


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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/22 12:34:56 (permalink)
     
    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ~$70 to $130 for the CPU block, $170 for a D5 pump + reservoir combo, $125 for 2 x 240mm radiators (what I'd have to use for my case), maybe $60 in fittings (although I remember paying more for silver-plated ones back in 2011), then the tubing and brackets and filler/drainage ports etc.. maybe $500+ all up, not including the GPU block which is another $1,600. Ouch.
     

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/22 12:55:36 (permalink)
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    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ~$70 to $130 for the CPU block, $170 for a D5 pump + reservoir combo, $125 for 2 x 240mm radiators (what I'd have to use for my case), maybe $60 in fittings (although I remember paying more for silver-plated ones back in 2011), then the tubing and brackets and filler/drainage ports etc.. maybe $500+ all up, not including the GPU block which is another $1,600. Ouch.
     



    IIRC, that's around the time I took the plunge into custom H20 and things were pricier than they are now.  What were you using that didn't cost that much?  Bike radiator? lol  Saw a lot of those back than (2000-2010). lol
     
    Also check out Corsair's lineup as it's decently priced but I'd still stick either a EVGA HC or EKs for the GPU.
     
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/22 14:53:50 (permalink)
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    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ~$70 to $130 for the CPU block, $170 for a D5 pump + reservoir combo, $125 for 2 x 240mm radiators (what I'd have to use for my case), maybe $60 in fittings (although I remember paying more for silver-plated ones back in 2011), then the tubing and brackets and filler/drainage ports etc.. maybe $500+ all up, not including the GPU block which is another $1,600. Ouch.

    IIRC, that's around the time I took the plunge into custom H20 and things were pricier than they are now.  What were you using that didn't cost that much?  Bike radiator? lol  Saw a lot of those back than (2000-2010). lol
     
    Also check out Corsair's lineup as it's decently priced but I'd still stick either a EVGA HC or EKs for the GPU.

    LOL no bike rads.. I purchased most stuff off FrozenCPU I believe. I had the EK Supreme HF Cu water block in full nickel, it was about $60 back then, now $110+. Fittings I had were more expensive than EK - mine were all Bitspower silver plated, but I see they are still about $10-$15 each on FrozenCPU. Pump was Swiftech MCP655 which are near $140 now, certainly didn't pay anywhere near that back then, maybe half that? Radiators.. hmm ..I had a XSPC RX360 which are $100 now, I paid maybe $60? Still.. 8 years ago, prices go up.
     
    Yeah Corsair worth a look as I have a Corsair 680X RGB case, so their stuff ties in with all the Corsair iCUE software etc etc.. Hmm.. I can fit a 360 radiator at the front.. kind of a minimum for cooling a 9900k and a 2080Ti in a single loop though.
     
     
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 00:44:49 (permalink)
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    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ~$70 to $130 for the CPU block, $170 for a D5 pump + reservoir combo, $125 for 2 x 240mm radiators (what I'd have to use for my case), maybe $60 in fittings (although I remember paying more for silver-plated ones back in 2011), then the tubing and brackets and filler/drainage ports etc.. maybe $500+ all up, not including the GPU block which is another $1,600. Ouch.

    IIRC, that's around the time I took the plunge into custom H20 and things were pricier than they are now.  What were you using that didn't cost that much?  Bike radiator? lol  Saw a lot of those back than (2000-2010). lol
     
    Also check out Corsair's lineup as it's decently priced but I'd still stick either a EVGA HC or EKs for the GPU.

    LOL no bike rads.. I purchased most stuff off FrozenCPU I believe. I had the EK Supreme HF Cu water block in full nickel, it was about $60 back then, now $110+. Fittings I had were more expensive than EK - mine were all Bitspower silver plated, but I see they are still about $10-$15 each on FrozenCPU. Pump was Swiftech MCP655 which are near $140 now, certainly didn't pay anywhere near that back then, maybe half that? Radiators.. hmm ..I had a XSPC RX360 which are $100 now, I paid maybe $60? Still.. 8 years ago, prices go up.
     
    Yeah Corsair worth a look as I have a Corsair 680X RGB case, so their stuff ties in with all the Corsair iCUE software etc etc.. Hmm.. I can fit a 360 radiator at the front.. kind of a minimum for cooling a 9900k and a 2080Ti in a single loop though.
     

     
    I think Frozen's pricing may have since gone up with the new management.  Checkout modmymods and Performance-pcs.  I believe they both sell off of amazon or at least one does (modmymods).

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 06:33:55 (permalink)
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    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ...


    The added cost is truly what took me so long to finally dive in to custom cooling. Especially After dropping ~$3.5k on all my computer parts less than a year ago (including CPU AIO and GPU Hybrid Kit). Every time I'd price a custom loop out, I'd look at the final cost, think "nope", and close the browser tab.   But I finally grew tired enough of constantly trying to battle noise and temps. Preventing my fans from going full bore and sounding like a "freight train", as they say, had my 2080 ti hybrid setup still reaching 60c in some games and dropping my clocks. And, again, that pump noise at low load...

    I ended up ordering my full custom loop, directly from EKWB. I went overkill because I wanted to do it once and be done for the foreseeable future. The end result is 3x360 rads, D5 pump, all the fittings, CPU block, GPU block, and flexible tubing. All crammed into a Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL. The full cooling kit came out to just under $900. 

    But man, the temps and the noise improvement!! Even COD MW at max settings + 3440x1440 + with Ray Tracing on caps around 41c with a +1000 mem and +120 core OC. And that's with fans set at 1200rpm for low noise output. Every other game hovers between 36-39c and the machine is near silent at all times. It's truly remarkable.

    It's also changed my mindset on what GPU I need to go with, in the future. In retrospect, I had no need to go with the higher end FTW3 Ultra since it's now in a custom loop with a water block. That more expensive 3 fan cooler just collects dust and since the temps stay so low, allowing for easy OC's, I really don't need a custom PCB to achieve higher performance. So, when the next generation of high end cards are released, I'll go with a more standard variant of whatever the new top tier card is, ideally with a reference PCB, to ensure a water block is available right from the beginning. Then I can OC it to get all the performance I need without dropping hundreds more on one of the crazier versions. 



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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 07:31:51 (permalink)
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    It's been quite a few years since I ran a custom loop (in fact it was way back in 2011 when I was running 2 x EVGA GTX480 FTW hydro copper cards and a CPU block), so I thought I'd have a look at feasibility of a 2080Ti Hydro copper card.. wow the gear is getting pretty expensive now! ...


    The added cost is truly what took me so long to finally dive in to custom cooling. Especially After dropping ~$3.5k on all my computer parts less than a year ago (including CPU AIO and GPU Hybrid Kit). Every time I'd price a custom loop out, I'd look at the final cost, think "nope", and close the browser tab.   But I finally grew tired enough of constantly trying to battle noise and temps. Preventing my fans from going full bore and sounding like a "freight train", as they say, had my 2080 ti hybrid setup still reaching 60c in some games and dropping my clocks. And, again, that pump noise at low load...

    I ended up ordering my full custom loop, directly from EKWB. I went overkill because I wanted to do it once and be done for the foreseeable future. The end result is 3x360 rads, D5 pump, all the fittings, CPU block, GPU block, and flexible tubing. All crammed into a Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL. The full cooling kit came out to just under $900. 

    But man, the temps and the noise improvement!! Even COD MW at max settings + 3440x1440 + with Ray Tracing on caps around 41c with a +1000 mem and +120 core OC. And that's with fans set at 1200rpm for low noise output. Every other game hovers between 36-39c and the machine is near silent at all times. It's truly remarkable.

    It's also changed my mindset on what GPU I need to go with, in the future. In retrospect, I had no need to go with the higher end FTW3 Ultra since it's now in a custom loop with a water block. That more expensive 3 fan cooler just collects dust and since the temps stay so low, allowing for easy OC's, I really don't need a custom PCB to achieve higher performance. So, when the next generation of high end cards are released, I'll go with a more standard variant of whatever the new top tier card is, ideally with a reference PCB, to ensure a water block is available right from the beginning. Then I can OC it to get all the performance I need without dropping hundreds more on one of the crazier versions. 





    I think my loop + case was around $2K. lol  I still have custom parts I'm not currently using collecting dust which I should put a bunch of stuff in a box and just sell it. lol
     
    I agree that you can literally go with a reference and be done.  I did the same for the first time in a long time since my GTX 480s as I was under the 'Classified' versions even though I never really pushed them.
     
    Temps and audibles aren't comparable when it comes to custom cooling.  Granted you can inch your way closer with bigger sized AIOs but it's just not the same.  Obviously costs will be much higher if you push for a overkill setup as we both have.   With that much gear in your loop, I'm surprised you haven't gone with a dual D5 loop to help push through all of that and also have em for redundancy.

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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 08:00:51 (permalink)
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    I think my loop + case was around $2K. lol  I still have custom parts I'm not currently using collecting dust which I should put a bunch of stuff in a box and just sell it. lol
     
    I agree that you can literally go with a reference and be done.  I did the same for the first time in a long time since my GTX 480s as I was under the 'Classified' versions even though I never really pushed them.
     
    Temps and audibles aren't comparable when it comes to custom cooling.  Granted you can inch your way closer with bigger sized AIOs but it's just not the same.  Obviously costs will be much higher if you push for a overkill setup as we both have.   With that much gear in your loop, I'm surprised you haven't gone with a dual D5 loop to help push through all of that and also have em for redundancy.


    Funny, my wife was getting sick of the boxes/parts building up in our basement storage. So I just took a bunch of older parts (CPU, MB, AIO, NZXT h700i, fans etc.), put them all together and sold the setup on Facebook Marketplace 2 days ago. I made back nearly all of what I spent on the custom loop, which was a nice surprise.

    As for the second pump... I have thought about that. I may do another one at some point. But even in the 011 Dynamic XL, the current setup is getting pretty crammed. Not sure how/where I'd fit the 2nd pump. I may start looking at dual pump configurations online to see how I could make it work. Looks like I'm back to starting another project! It never ends... 
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 10:57:41 (permalink)
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    I think my loop + case was around $2K. lol  I still have custom parts I'm not currently using collecting dust which I should put a bunch of stuff in a box and just sell it. lol
     
    I agree that you can literally go with a reference and be done.  I did the same for the first time in a long time since my GTX 480s as I was under the 'Classified' versions even though I never really pushed them.
     
    Temps and audibles aren't comparable when it comes to custom cooling.  Granted you can inch your way closer with bigger sized AIOs but it's just not the same.  Obviously costs will be much higher if you push for a overkill setup as we both have.   With that much gear in your loop, I'm surprised you haven't gone with a dual D5 loop to help push through all of that and also have em for redundancy.


    Funny, my wife was getting sick of the boxes/parts building up in our basement storage. So I just took a bunch of older parts (CPU, MB, AIO, NZXT h700i, fans etc.), put them all together and sold the setup on Facebook Marketplace 2 days ago. I made back nearly all of what I spent on the custom loop, which was a nice surprise.

    As for the second pump... I have thought about that. I may do another one at some point. But even in the 011 Dynamic XL, the current setup is getting pretty crammed. Not sure how/where I'd fit the 2nd pump. I may start looking at dual pump configurations online to see how I could make it work. Looks like I'm back to starting another project! It never ends... 




    You can say that again. 
     
    This is the dual pump system that I'm currently using with a tube res installed on it exactly as seen in that image.  I only went with it because one of my DDC 35X pumps went bad after 5+ years of 24/7 use plus, I couldn't stand my dual bay reservoir with them in it because it was a PAIN to do maintenance with them where now it's completely night and day and less stress full to just fill the res.
     
    I've thought about maybe building a 2nd loop in my secondary rig but just to maintain one, I sometimes get the regrets, I just can't come together and accept that or at least yet. lol  I feel since my secondary PC is never on, leaving a loop idle could be a recipe for disaster as the fluid stays still.  Even though I use premium premix stuff, eventually that stuff losses its strength over time hence why they highly recommend on doing annual drain and refills which I always do.  No more breaking down the loop just to clean it like I used to in the first few years.  Only when its really necessary.  I felt that was too excessive but anyways, my current motto is, one custom loop and the rest AIOs. lol  Much easier to deal with and maintain.
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    Re: EVGA RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID owners only - good or not so good? 2019/12/23 11:40:38 (permalink)
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    You can say that again. 
     
    This is the dual pump system that I'm currently using with a tube res installed on it exactly as seen in that image.  I only went with it because one of my DDC 35X pumps went bad after 5+ years of 24/7 use plus, I couldn't stand my dual bay reservoir with them in it because it was a PAIN to do maintenance with them where now it's completely night and day and less stress full to just fill the res.
     
    I've thought about maybe building a 2nd loop in my secondary rig but just to maintain one, I sometimes get the regrets, I just can't come together and accept that or at least yet. lol  I feel since my secondary PC is never on, leaving a loop idle could be a recipe for disaster as the fluid stays still.  Even though I use premium premix stuff, eventually that stuff losses its strength over time hence why they highly recommend on doing annual drain and refills which I always do.  No more breaking down the loop just to clean it like I used to in the first few years.  Only when its really necessary.  I felt that was too excessive but anyways, my current motto is, one custom loop and the rest AIOs. lol  Much easier to deal with and maintain.


     
    WOAH! I didn't realize EKWB had a dual pump system for sale. That's pretty awesome. 

    And I feel ya on wanting to build a second loop for a secondary machine. I thought about doing that with the spare parts I just sold, and use it as a HTPC. But with an Xbox One X as my living room media center, I really have no need for a spare computer.

    This is my first custom loop. I plan on flushing it every 6 months or so, just to stay on top of it. I built the loop with ease of draining/refill as a top priority. I can get it drained/flushed in just a few minutes. Which came in insanely handy when remounting my GPU block like 4 times, trying to get temps right.  Hopefully I won't have to completely tear it back down for thorough cleaning any time soon (another reason I stuck with clear pre-mix fluid). At this rate, I'll probably have entirely an new GPU & CPU setup with new blocks by the time that becomes necessary.


    Anyway, I think it's safe to say we successfully derailed the hell out of this thread. Sorry OP.    



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