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2009/10/23 15:48:18 (permalink)
I just wanted to commend you guys for outfitting most of your boards with Tyco/AMP and LOTES sockets. I picked up two P55 FTW boards and both had LOTES sockets that make much better contact with the CPU than my Gigabyte P55-UD4P's Foxconn socket. Are you planning on eliminating all Foxconn sockets from your P55 series?
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/10/23 21:08:21 (permalink)
    Why would they eliminate Foxconn sockets? If you are referring to the article at AnandTech you need not worry unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking else you'll be fine.

     
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/10/24 14:44:38 (permalink)
    i think EVGA is using lotus sockets only now, the x58 boards also use lotus parts.
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/10/26 17:11:04 (permalink)
    werty316

    Why would they eliminate Foxconn sockets? If you are referring to the article at AnandTech you need not worry unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking else you'll be fine.


    Why wouldn't you eliminate using a faulty socket. Extreme Overclocking, brings the problem with Foxconn sockets to full light quickly. How long do you think a moderately overclocked CPU with one of these sockets could last? No matter how you slice it, processors with these sockets are not having power evenly applied which means over long term use they could very well probably suffer the same fate..... just may take longer to get there.

    I personally would rather not take the gamble.

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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/04 16:49:41 (permalink)
    I think that Foxconn is aware of the issue and have most likely already corrected the problem. It probably only happened on the  first batches of boards so Iwould not be very concerned about this moving forward. Foxconn is one of the leading produces of many board components so I don't think they would just let this go without a quick resolution.
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/05 08:39:56 (permalink)
    werty316

    Why would they eliminate Foxconn sockets? If you are referring to the article at AnandTech you need not worry unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking else you'll be fine.


    The bottom line is, the socket is causing the CPU to make incomplete contact with the motherboard. Whether you're overclocking or not, this is a problem. It's obvious people are scared by it, because if you bend/break a single pin on any motherboard, 90% of people won't touch it. The Foxconn sockets are like boards with tens of broken pins.
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/06 03:17:57 (permalink)
    I've just ordered a P55 sli board which should arrive soon, how can I tell if it's using the foxconn socket?
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/06 03:44:14 (permalink)
    It is easy, check the backplate of the CPU socket. It should have the insignia of the manufacturer. The Foxconn pressure points on the top plate are also narrow like an indentation, unlike the Lotes which has a wider flat edge. The method used by Lotes is believed to more evenly distribute pressure across the edges of the CPU heatspreader.



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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/06 20:25:33 (permalink)
    You've got a good chance of getting a Tyco/AMP or LOTES with an EVGA board, which both are free of the problems that the Foxconn design has. Apparently, Foxconn has a new design that doesn't have that problem.

    I have a Gigabyte board with a Foxconn socket and it seemed to make decent contact with my i7 860. I have no way of telling if it's the new design, or the old one, though.
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/12 19:46:53 (permalink)
    Just as FYI, the Foxcomm socket is alive and shipping with the EVGA P55 FTW. Just did a step up program to this board from my original P55 SLI hoping NOT to get the another Foxcomm socket. Well, the board recieved today has the Foxcomm socket. This was was not bought from a store. Came directly from EVGA. Disappointed is a understatement to say the least.
     
    So if you think you have a good chance of geting AMP or LOTES with a new board, think again. Unless of course this is where they ended up and folks doing a step up are the proud winners of the old foxcomm sockets.
     
    danishdevil

    You've got a good chance of getting a Tyco/AMP or LOTES with an EVGA board, which both are free of the problems that the Foxconn design has. Apparently, Foxconn has a new design that doesn't have that problem.

    I have a Gigabyte board with a Foxconn socket and it seemed to make decent contact with my i7 860. I have no way of telling if it's the new design, or the old one, though.


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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 04:16:46 (permalink)
    My P55 Classified has a Lotes socket.




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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 04:43:29 (permalink)
    I just got a P55 SLI from Newegg and it's sadly a Foxconn. I am also sorely disappointed by this and am wondering if I should RMA it before my 30 days are up. Thoughts?

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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 04:45:36 (permalink)
    Eleventh

    I just got a P55 SLI from Newegg and it's sadly a Foxconn. I am also sorely disappointed by this and am wondering if I should RMA it before my 30 days are up. Thoughts?


    You might have a board that has a socket not of the bad batch, or a new revision. I would just say run with it, overclock it heavy, and then if it fails, or "Socket burnout" occurs, just RMA.




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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 05:34:16 (permalink)
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    Eleventh

    I just got a P55 SLI from Newegg and it's sadly a Foxconn. I am also sorely disappointed by this and am wondering if I should RMA it before my 30 days are up. Thoughts?


    You might have a board that has a socket not of the bad batch, or a new revision. I would just say run with it, overclock it heavy, and then if it fails, or "Socket burnout" occurs, just RMA.


    This sounds pretty dangerous for my processor. No?

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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 05:40:26 (permalink)
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    Eleventh

    I just got a P55 SLI from Newegg and it's sadly a Foxconn. I am also sorely disappointed by this and am wondering if I should RMA it before my 30 days are up. Thoughts?


    You might have a board that has a socket not of the bad batch, or a new revision. I would just say run with it, overclock it heavy, and then if it fails, or "Socket burnout" occurs, just RMA.


    This sounds pretty dangerous for my processor. No?


    Indeed it does, But doesn't Intel include a 3 year warranty on that processor? Overclocking cpu's to 4.2ghz could be bad in the long run, no one really knows for sure.




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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 08:53:32 (permalink)
    Yesterday I bought P55 SLI with LOTES socket
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 13:58:59 (permalink)
    Andy75

    Yesterday I bought P55 SLI with LOTES socket


    Lucky. Where did you buy it?

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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/13 15:01:44 (permalink)
    in Israel , but i think  it's not necessary to worry about socket, the problem was under extreme overcklocking and there were some other problems under  overcklocking http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-p55-motherboard,2436-15.html
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/14 03:41:20 (permalink)
    Hey Guys,
     
    Was out yesterday looking for a replacement board to get the wifes PC going while I deal with my "brand new, old stock P55 FTW" Step-up board. So I go by Fry's to check things out and find a new set of EVGA boards on display and all with Lotes sockets. I look down and there are full shevles of brand new boards. What struck me as funny was this same set of display boards had Foxconn sockets last week. For whatever reason Fry's changed out their EVGA boards. They usually leave the boards hanging till they are picked clean by the vultures.
     
    Kinda sad, I could have driven 10 miles and had a board with a Lotes socket rather than pitch good $$ down the tube for my "Step-UP ??" .. Oh well, my lucky week for sure. 
      
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    post edited by stacker - 2009/11/15 14:41:13
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/14 12:39:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for the pictures but I don't understand the words. Care to paraphrase?
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/14 21:01:42 (permalink)
    johnmk

    Thanks for the pictures but I don't understand the words. Care to paraphrase?

    If you mean what the socket retainer says ... Lotes at the bottom of each retainer.
     
    Sorry for the poor quality .. cell phone picks and these were the good ones. Just trying to show each board now has the Lotes socket. Looks like the new stock is all ok now (at least at the Fry's in Phoenix).
     
    If you are missing the meaning, I just got my brand new P55 FTW board from the EVGA "Step-up Program" and it has a Foxconn socket. I am at a loss to why EVGA would send out a Foxconn socket on my board while everything they are shipping has the new sockets. That's the short version.
     
    I decided to go ahead and build with it and take the chance a moderate OC will not fry the thing. Maybe this is the latest board with the corrected Foxconn sockets I am reading about. Sure hope so.
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/15 02:46:34 (permalink)
    I see, I understand now. Why not phone them up and ask if you have a revised Foxconn socket that's different from the ones which failed?
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/15 09:30:04 (permalink)
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    I see, I understand now. Why not phone them up and ask if you have a revised Foxconn socket that's different from the ones which failed?


    They were contacted last week, still waiting for response. Not worrried either way, EVGA warranty is one of the best in industry. More disappointed in them than mad and their tech support do frequent these forums.
     
    Update - Installed and now removing. Did check the BIOS date and definately not a newer board with a Bios / creation date of9/9/09. Can't complete the Win7 installation. Goes to black screen and stops at last phase of install. Heard of this issue across other threads and forums. Known good memory, video cards and processor that was used in the P55 SLI that was returned for step up program and perfromed perfect. Tried all the known settings for Ram and drives. Thought it didn't like the raid setup so tried without, same thing, tried again loading drivers ahead of install, no luck, tried one stick of ram and then swapping ram, no luck, tried one vid card vs two in SLI, no luck, Used default ram timing, auto and manual timing with voltage control to spec, same thing. Even tried a hard format on the drive, nothing. Spent all day tyring to diagnose, no luck. Not a noob at this been building PC's a long, long time. Going back for RMA. 
     
    Last post on the subject, you guys take care, I'm done.
    post edited by stacker - 2009/11/15 14:49:12
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    Re:EVGA P55 1156 Sockets 2009/11/16 19:35:49 (permalink)
    wow.. i hope they didn't send you a refurb for the step up. (NOT saying they did - just hope not).
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