Kylearan

LVNeptune
 
Then they were using a garbage iron to begin with. Soldering is safer than using "conductive paint" no clue which "youtuber" decided it was a good idea, it's not.

When you have a metal bar in your spine and are disabled with a spine injury, Conductive paint is MUCH safer than soldering.
The fact that my 3090 FE can draw 533W (gets uncoolable on air though, 75C is thermonuclear) is proof of that.
You are perfectly free to hate people that don't solder.  You also seem to be discriminating on people with disabilities and who aren't rich and privileged like you are.  I don't care what you think about me.  I'll enjoy my shunt modded video card while you're mad at the world.
 
And no youtuber came up with this idea.  Might want to do your research before you act like a know it all.
I have a soldering iron and even a hakko desoldering pump.  I don't have the tools, tips or skills to work on components that small.  So conductive paint + toothpick works for me.
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/ (shunt stacking)
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/page-7#post-28663330 (First person to use 842AR conductive paint --15 mOhms)
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/page-8#post-28665572 (I'm Falkentyne.  No idea why that name was "taken" by someone on this forum, couldn't register it way back when I signed up years ago, but Kylearan came from the same game anyway). 
https://www.overclock.net...-shut-modding.1773959/
 

changboy
If you want more,  then mode ur pcb like them, put a/c in front of your case, and put your rad in ice water and then show off your benchmark !
See here the review of the strix 3090 oc on time spy : https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_rtx_3090_strix_oc_review,28.html
And look my score with my 3090 ftw3 ;
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15138728
I score a lot more and just a normal overclock !

LVNeptune

Kylearan

LVNeptune
 
Then they were using a garbage iron to begin with. Soldering is safer than using "conductive paint" no clue which "youtuber" decided it was a good idea, it's not.

When you have a metal bar in your spine and are disabled with a spine injury, Conductive paint is MUCH safer than soldering.
The fact that my 3090 FE can draw 533W (gets uncoolable on air though, 75C is thermonuclear) is proof of that.
You are perfectly free to hate people that don't solder.  You also seem to be discriminating on people with disabilities and who aren't rich and privileged like you are.  I don't care what you think about me.  I'll enjoy my shunt modded video card while you're mad at the world.
 
And no youtuber came up with this idea.  Might want to do your research before you act like a know it all.
I have a soldering iron and even a hakko desoldering pump.  I don't have the tools, tips or skills to work on components that small.  So conductive paint + toothpick works for me.
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/ (shunt stacking)
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/page-7#post-28663330 (First person to use 842AR conductive paint --15 mOhms)
 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/rtx-3090-founders-edition-working-shunt-mod.1773780/page-8#post-28665572 (I'm Falkentyne.  No idea why that name was "taken" by someone on this forum, couldn't register it way back when I signed up years ago, but Kylearan came from the same game anyway). 
https://www.overclock.net...-shut-modding.1773959/
 

"Might want to do your research before you act like a know it all." You should do your research, you literally linked to threads I already posted in several weeks back. I actually had a private conversation with olrdtg on that forum. Several threads on that forum (and several posts here) specifically say NOT to do this due to the extra resistance being added not being guaranteed to be a specific resistance. I can't even recommend this but at least you could use conductive glue and stack a resistor instead of going this way. I would even be willing to do this properly for you, for free, just to not see another one done like this.
 
"You also seem to be discriminating on people with disabilities and who aren't rich and privileged like you are." This has to be a joke, right? You are on an enthusiast forum talking about "rich and privileged" any of us that can afford these cards during the state of things around the world ARE rich and privileged. 
 
On top of that, you are literally spreading MISINFORMATION on that forum! "Warranties are non transferable anyway." while posting on the EVGA forum, which is one of their selling points, transfer of warranty. "Most warranties are non-transferrable" would be an accurate statement.
 
I'm not "mad at the world" but it seems like you might be. I am definitely mad at you for claiming I am prejudiced against disabled people. I can't SEE you. I have no knowledge of your personal situation. I said nothing that should even have triggered a response like that from anyone.
 
Just to throw this in here, I couldn't remember which post had it before but this explains why conductive paint isn't meant for this: https://www.overclock.net...9/page-2#post-28651568 ...and after reading this you and I talked in there too. You started talking about electrical tape to stack it and stuff. https://www.overclock.net/threads/how-to-easy-mode-shut-modding.1773959/page-2#post-28651767

Kylearan
You're gone, Neptune.  Blocked you on OCN and blocked you here too.  That will teach keyboard warriors not to cross the line.

changboy
 
No, you can see in detail the result and just check graphik score, not cpu score. This mean you can buy an asus one and it will not oc so well or evga one wont overclock at all, this is the silicon lotery. Same thing for cpu.

changboy
If you roll down the page he menage to get a score of 20465 but you cant see in detail hes score, just that. But the gaming x trio got a better score and its cheaper of both evga and asus.

changboy
All this to say its a rtx-3090. Anyone can menage to get higher score by different way but at the end its a 3090.

cerealkeller
I said good day, sir! 🧐

😆

LordGurciullo
Sirs,
 
Lets reunite. Why did we all buy this? To play games remember....
 
While we wait for Jacob to fix this... which I'm sure they will eventually....  and even if they don't we still got a fantastic piece of hardware.... 
lets talk about games..
 
whos playing what :)?
 
I'm play Prodeus on 1080p (xl2746s) with a 2000 video card ....   *flame me, I'm here do it now,* (Arnold from Predator).

• The average power draw over the course of the stress test was 472w (cleared just before test started).
• The maximum power draw reported by GPU-Z was 492w. 
• The perfcap reason the entire time was Power. 

LordGurciullo
Well... That's not been my experience... I never ever go over 442 except for the one time I told port royal to run in 8k and maxed everything and got 6 fps and it went up to 470 spiked... 
 
I'm thinking the old cards (I got a launch day card) have maybe different hardware??
 
Also - "How about the game where each subsequent driver release from nvidia, my card gets slower?
How about the fact that a 3090 ftw3 ultra can't hold 60fps with everything maxed in RDR2 at 5120x1440? How about in the same title, I can be getting 75fps while riding around, and then BAM frames drop to 58fps for a second or two, then back up to where they belong? How about when I cruise into San Denis at night and top out at 52fps?"
 
 
That was funny... I get it though .. I'm disappointed a little too.. I wanted 182 fps in every game minimum ... but I think we just gotta be real... It's still a great card. 

cerealkeller
At least one other person mentioned the video on Frame Chasers YouTube page.  The way he described it, I'm inclined to believe he is correct when he says the way this card is designed, it's hard wired to limit power draw once the PCI-E slot hits 75 watts of power draw, which is why this BIOS is not working.  If that's not the case, it would be awesome if we could expect a fix.  But since the BIOS works on other cards, but not ours, it does seem to be the case.  I'd suggest anyone with an interest watch the video, I just searched "EVGA 3090 500w BIOS" and it popped up, I actually came across not even looking for it.  That being the case, it's unlikely this will ever be resolved for us who already have cards.  I hope I'm wrong though.

kvswim

LordGurciullo
Well... That's not been my experience... I never ever go over 442 except for the one time I told port royal to run in 8k and maxed everything and got 6 fps and it went up to 470 spiked... 
 
I'm thinking the old cards (I got a launch day card) have maybe different hardware??
 
Also - "How about the game where each subsequent driver release from nvidia, my card gets slower?
How about the fact that a 3090 ftw3 ultra can't hold 60fps with everything maxed in RDR2 at 5120x1440? How about in the same title, I can be getting 75fps while riding around, and then BAM frames drop to 58fps for a second or two, then back up to where they belong? How about when I cruise into San Denis at night and top out at 52fps?"
 
 
That was funny... I get it though .. I'm disappointed a little too.. I wanted 182 fps in every game minimum ... but I think we just gotta be real... It's still a great card. 

Same thing happens to me in RDR2, I'm at the same resolution. I think it's just a poorly optimized game, can't really get around that. I was still amazed at how smooth it looked (came from a 1080Ti, struggling to do 25-30fps before).
 
I wonder if there was a stealth hardware revision during production, or maybe some firmware changes to the various voltage controllers on the PCB. Doesn't make much sense that my new FTW3 (and a handful of others I've seen while reading this entire thread) can exceed 450W but clearly MANY others with near launch-day cards cannot. Makes me wonder whether this can actually be fixed, or if the cards would need to be RMAd. 
 
 

cerealkeller
At least one other person mentioned the video on Frame Chasers YouTube page.  The way he described it, I'm inclined to believe he is correct when he says the way this card is designed, it's hard wired to limit power draw once the PCI-E slot hits 75 watts of power draw, which is why this BIOS is not working.  If that's not the case, it would be awesome if we could expect a fix.  But since the BIOS works on other cards, but not ours, it does seem to be the case.  I'd suggest anyone with an interest watch the video, I just searched "EVGA 3090 500w BIOS" and it popped up, I actually came across not even looking for it.  That being the case, it's unlikely this will ever be resolved for us who already have cards.  I hope I'm wrong though.

I've seen this brought up several times and I'm not yet convinced that there is an unchangeable PciePower:8PinPower ratio. During my stress test, the PCIe power draw averaged around 76W, the extra power was being pulled from 8-pins. If this were the case, EVGA probably wouldn't have bothered to release this vbios at all, since it would be impossible to exceed the 450W limit at that ratio. 
Similarly, I think the fuse theory is also not plausible. The max operational current is NOT dictated by (or the result of) a fuse -- it's probably there to protect the majority of the card in case the power supply tries to throw up on it. 
Like everyone else, I'm just speculating. I'm not an EE. Only time will tell.

drunknfoo

cerealkeller
At least one other person mentioned the video on Frame Chasers YouTube page.  The way he described it, I'm inclined to believe he is correct when he says the way this card is designed, it's hard wired to limit power draw once the PCI-E slot hits 75 watts of power draw, which is why this BIOS is not working.  If that's not the case, it would be awesome if we could expect a fix.  But since the BIOS works on other cards, but not ours, it does seem to be the case.  I'd suggest anyone with an interest watch the video, I just searched "EVGA 3090 500w BIOS" and it popped up, I actually came across not even looking for it.  That being the case, it's unlikely this will ever be resolved for us who already have cards.  I hope I'm wrong though.

its not, i can avg 490w and sustain given some random condition sometimes and peak 520 without any shunt