bneiderman
So the new cards are changed hardware with a new bios as well? I don't think simply flashing a new bios before shipping would count as new hardware. Thanks for the info.

The new BIOS would require different hardware as other people have tested the new BIOS on the older boards and see a huge reduction in board power. Like 350watts!

Just got my card from the replacement program.  Installed the card and Precision X made me flash the card.   It's showing bios 94.02,26.48.16 in GPU-Z and Precision X won't let me move the power slider past 107.  I've tried both OC and normal with the switch on the card with the same result.  Should I install 94.02.42.80.15 bios or the XOC 500W bios from the forum?

Yeah,  I rebooted a couple times just to make sure it wasn't that.

Ok thanks for the explanation. Just to clarify one more thing. Page 1 of this entire thread discusses the new OC bios with 500 watt power limit from October 2020. Wasn't that BEFORE this so called new hardware revision? Or did they realize that they needed a new hardware revision to support the new OC bios after the fact? Sorry for so many questions and thanks for being so helpful!

Anyone else's PX1 with the new card just showing 2 fans? and my leds won't all light up... reached out to EVGA and crickets about the power draw not being 500W... 

hyuiop

prabh456

Turbo-12R

prabh456
Got my new card in today.. Only pulling 460W, My PX1 won't let me do led sync and only 2 fans are detected, I used 3dMARK to pull the wattage and this was on a +140/+1000 OC, 3Dmark also gave me mystery machine achievement for a unknown GPU loool. 

Is this a program replacement card or just a normal RMA?
 
Did you compare your 3DMark results to your last card?  Mind sharing?

My new score is about 3K lower.... It's part of the replacement program.
 
Old highest score: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18607865
 
New highest score (no hybrid cooler on yet as I just put the card in) https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19254448
 
I'm guessing it has something to do with a driver issue, I DDU'd in case and same result. average clock frequencies are higher though. 

This is a concern, did you get this resolved? Are you able to post photos of the board?

Nope was not able to get this resolved, I'm waiting on EVGA to reply before I take this card apart and put the hybrid kit on it... but from the testing I've done so far PCIE doesnt go above 65, but the #3 8 pin is way low... 460-470W max on GPU draw.. Not sure why EVGA is having such a hard time on this GPU, I honestly won't be going back to EVGA after this, shoulda just waited and bought a strix instead of being on card #3 at this point. Perfcap on PWR anything above 104%... basically the same issues besides the PCIE power being "normal" now.

turbota89

changboy

turbota89
Just got my card from the replacement program.  Installed the card and Precision X made me flash the card.   It's showing bios 94.02,26.48.16 in GPU-Z and Precision X won't let me move the power slider past 107.  I've tried both OC and normal with the switch on the card with the same result.  Should I install 94.02.42.80.15 bios or the XOC 500W bios from the forum?

RE-flash your bios with the good one using nvflash and before that, dont use precisionx but use msi afterburner and check back your performance.
 
Using msi afterburner will avoid many problem about update you dont want from precisionx1 program.

Just did what you recommended new bios and only useing msi afterburner.  Was hitting 450W power draw and with the new bios (94.02.42.80.15) its only hitting 410max.  #3 power is about a third of the other two also.  

Any overclock?

ccabal2003
If anyone has received a 3090 ftw3 ultra with the black clown lips recently if possible could you drop me a copy of your vbios? I uploaded the 500w bios on mine unknowing that evga pre applied it. I am not sure if they differ from the red clown lips version but I am suspicious it is different than the"BETA" 500w version posted here that applies to the older red clown lip cards. Anyways, I would GREATLY appreciate it.

As I stated just a few posts above, this is the 500w that arrived on my new 3090 FTW3U from the new swap program.  https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/231245/231245

So the XOC BIOS that comes with the cards of the RMA replacement program posted on Techpowerup will make the card go down to 350W max because they changed the voltaje regulator? I just read some pages back and seems that only one guy tried it...anyone else did?
 
Thanks to All, Sergio!

prabh456

hyuiop

prabh456

Turbo-12R

prabh456
Got my new card in today.. Only pulling 460W, My PX1 won't let me do led sync and only 2 fans are detected, I used 3dMARK to pull the wattage and this was on a +140/+1000 OC, 3Dmark also gave me mystery machine achievement for a unknown GPU loool. 

Is this a program replacement card or just a normal RMA?
 
Did you compare your 3DMark results to your last card?  Mind sharing?

My new score is about 3K lower.... It's part of the replacement program.
 
Old highest score: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18607865
 
New highest score (no hybrid cooler on yet as I just put the card in) https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19254448
 
I'm guessing it has something to do with a driver issue, I DDU'd in case and same result. average clock frequencies are higher though. 

This is a concern, did you get this resolved? Are you able to post photos of the board?

Nope was not able to get this resolved, I'm waiting on EVGA to reply before I take this card apart and put the hybrid kit on it... but from the testing I've done so far PCIE doesnt go above 65, but the #3 8 pin is way low... 460-470W max on GPU draw.. Not sure why EVGA is having such a hard time on this GPU, I honestly won't be going back to EVGA after this, shoulda just waited and bought a strix instead of being on card #3 at this point. Perfcap on PWR anything above 104%... basically the same issues besides the PCIE power being "normal" now.

Standing by for those photos. It will be enlightening to see how yours compares to raiden2a's and if yours has the updated NCP81610 voltage control chip. 

I read and wonder, many don't even know how to use a card ore overclock...Why you changing them at all? This 430w ore 490w not doesn't change anything for you...

Lord Winchester

Raudkast
I read and wonder, many don't even know how to use a card ore overclock...Why you changing them at all? This 430w ore 490w not doesn't change anything for you...

 
 
 
That's simple:
 
Because the Card is running on the very top (or over the top) of a connector specification standard, which means, it is faulty.
 
 
Example:
 
If you buy a brand new car from the dealer and figure out, that it drinks loads of oil, would you keep it that way, or would you push the dealer very hard to get this issue fixed? 

There is no need to explain anything to me here, some could learn first how to use Afterburner, X1 ore GPU-Z or which tests to use for benchmarks... 

Been following this thread since I picked up my FTW3 ultra back in January. My card has seemed to always perform well. Getting over 200fps in warzone at 2k settings maxed and RTX. But... I am seeing over 75 watts draw one PCIe. About 81 or so. Max draw is 460 on stock bios. Have only ran heaven bench marks. So I see some people are having luck with RMAs while some aren’t. Which seems to change weekly as I come back and read thro. So kinda at a crossroads. Is it something I look into or should I just keep my current card.
Also if I RMA(if even needed) then I’d be out of a card for his knows how long. I just wish EVGA would come out and address this thing in detail and what we should be doing instead of letting people sometimes just unknowingly keep using a faulty card.

lucasfrance
It would be great if Jacob could transparently provide everyone here with the detailed changes EVGA introduced on the new RMA 3090 ftw3 ultra design to fix both the PCI wattage and wrong power balancing and what are the real improvement results. That's the only way to go to properly handle the current situation with the customers. 
Thank you in advance for your professionalism Jacob.

Agreed it would be nice to know but in the past couple days we have figured out the hardware change on our own (swapped VRM voltage controller). I suppose there may be other parts that have been swapped out but that is the most obvious and major change.

phroze

lucasfrance
It would be great if Jacob could transparently provide everyone here with the detailed changes EVGA introduced on the new RMA 3090 ftw3 ultra design to fix both the PCI wattage and wrong power balancing and what are the real improvement results. That's the only way to go to properly handle the current situation with the customers. 
Thank you in advance for your professionalism Jacob.

Agreed it would be nice to know but in the past couple days we have figured out the hardware change on our own (swapped VRM voltage controller). I suppose there may be other parts that have been swapped out but that is the most obvious and major change.

This is an example of another public relations misstep. EVGA your audience are and have been for some time asking for root cause analysis and details on your intended resolution. Even a "We have identified the source of the power control issue. Our engineering team is working with our vendors and partners as a priority to resolve." And then one daily high level update on details and ETA adjustments would be better than the radio silence.  Dodgy tier 3 IP transport carriers do better than this on client comms.
In all seriousness EVGA it is time to put the facts on the table and demonstrate your respect (and trust) in what was once a loyal customer base. 
Is it too late? For some yes it is. For a good many more, just about I would say..