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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 10:00:47 (permalink)
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Thank you I really appreciate it. If it turns out to be the case that would be the best thing that could have happened to these cards. I sent mine out yesterday. Can't wait to get the replacement back and tested and then get the optimus block back on! Is the replacement a new card or a refurb?



Its brand 'new'; IE they pulled it from the showroom box and did their XOC verify test as stated in the email convo you should've had from 3090oc@evga.com.  Then they shipped it in a generic box.  
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 10:17:01 (permalink)
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phroze
 
Thank you I really appreciate it. If it turns out to be the case that would be the best thing that could have happened to these cards. I sent mine out yesterday. Can't wait to get the replacement back and tested and then get the optimus block back on! Is the replacement a new card or a refurb?



Its brand 'new'; IE they pulled it from the showroom box and did their XOC verify test as stated in the email convo you should've had from 3090oc@evga.com.  Then they shipped it in a generic box.  
 
 


My replacement was shipped in a Retail box.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 10:29:17 (permalink)
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phroze
 
Thank you I really appreciate it. If it turns out to be the case that would be the best thing that could have happened to these cards. I sent mine out yesterday. Can't wait to get the replacement back and tested and then get the optimus block back on! Is the replacement a new card or a refurb?



Its brand 'new'; IE they pulled it from the showroom box and did their XOC verify test as stated in the email convo you should've had from 3090oc@evga.com.  Then they shipped it in a generic box.  
 
 


I see what you're saying. In the first email it states "The new replacement card will already have the XOC BIOS applied to the secondary BIOS position."

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 10:36:32 (permalink)

It would be great if Jacob could transparently provide everyone here with the detailed changes EVGA introduced on the new RMA 3090 ftw3 ultra design to fix both the PCI wattage and wrong power balancing and what are the real improvement results. That's the only way to go to properly handle the current situation with the customers. 
Thank you in advance for your professionalism Jacob.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 10:44:55 (permalink)
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It would be great if Jacob could transparently provide everyone here with the detailed changes EVGA introduced on the new RMA 3090 ftw3 ultra design to fix both the PCI wattage and wrong power balancing and what are the real improvement results. That's the only way to go to properly handle the current situation with the customers. 
Thank you in advance for your professionalism Jacob.


Well, once raiden2a gets his card tore apart he is going to take a look at the VRM controller and see if they updated that to a smart controller (UP9512) from the dumb one (UP9511). If that is different then we know what the biggest change was. If it hasn't changed then we will continue to wonder. But being how the BIOS on these cards is entirely different than the old ones and when people flash the new BIOS to the old cards they are limited to about 350 watts, there has been a considerable hardware change somewhere.
post edited by phroze - 2021/03/23 10:50:16

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 11:10:44 (permalink)
lucasfrance

It would be great if Jacob could transparently provide everyone here with the detailed changes EVGA introduced on the new RMA 3090 ftw3 ultra design to fix both the PCI wattage and wrong power balancing and what are the real improvement results. That's the only way to go to properly handle the current situation with the customers. 
Thank you in advance for your professionalism Jacob.




Just give him another 6 months...
My 2nd FTW3 goes back to it´s retailer on monday. 
Worst buying experience ever !
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 12:03:07 (permalink)
Hope to hear some promising news


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 12:45:15 (permalink)
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Me:
 
Hello,
My NEW FTW3 Ultra (black lips) maxed out at 440W after the bios update (431W before the update).
Checked with FurMark / GPU-Z with an overclock of +220MHz on the core.
PCIe never goes over 78W 
 
EVGA:
 
Currently, we are only doing this optional RMA for residents within the US and Canada. For those outside of these regions, we will be forwarding your information through the proper channels until replacements are ready for your region. We unfortunately do not have an ETA on when this will be. We apologize in advance for this inconvenience.
 
Me:
 

So it´s ok for german cards that the card operates outside the PCI-specification ??

EVGA:

As of right now, only the residents within the US and Canada are eligible for this optional RMA. Those outside of these regions would need to wait for their respective regions to roll out the program in their area. Like mentioned, we have already forwarded your information to the proper channels to get this process started.




That´s the "service" why all sayd to me buy evga....




I got pretty much the same spin after 8 days of radio silence. It was a pity I had to get publicly stroppy here to get a response at all. A more proactive approach is needed. 
 
I suspect the folks in EVGA driving commercials are actually behind this mess and hiding behind an obviously stripped down and now embattled engineering team.
 
The insistence of providing "no ETA" for all regions outside of the US and Canada points to either a lack of understanding of the underlying issue or constraints to the resolution they feel unable to manage.
 
The current position or lack there of is clearly hemorrhaging good will and damaging the brand. 
Damage control for an issue like this is simple though it takes courage from the back of house: 
  1. Appoint a response team.
  2. Devise a strategy and brief the team.
  3. Identified your audience.
  4. Craft your message.
  5. Address the affected parties.
  6. Monitor (listen to the music).
  7. Communicate, Communicate, Communicate.
  8. Review and learn. 
 
The audience is educated and asking for RCAs (and ETAs for those outside of NA/CA). Your message is not meeting your audience. 
 
EVGA take a more front footed public relations posture please. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 13:13:48 (permalink)
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 13:14:05 (permalink)
The new cards are not yet available outside of US and CA. We are working on this and expect availability within the next week or so, and just became available in US late last week. If you emailed 3090oc@evga.com and are located outside of US/CA we will have an update for you shortly. All questions about this program, ETA, etc. please route to 3090oc@evga.com 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 14:09:47 (permalink)
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I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 14:16:56 (permalink)
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MaxTheOwl
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.


Mine would hit 430 once in awhile but mostly stick around the 420-425 mark while overclocked running PR. Makes that 446 he is getting look good lol. 14240 was my best PR.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 14:29:23 (permalink)
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MaxTheOwl
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.




Same. Even with my card going to 500w (with 79ishw on pcie and horrible 3rd pcie power draw and 2 pin drawing 80w more than 3) I could only hit 14600ish in PR. So I am going to go out on a limb here and say your actual gpu is solid, you just need a better board around it with proper power etc. Even with a new RMA card you might not go much above this is what I would say. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:02:08 (permalink)
Got my new card in today but PX1 updated the bios to the card I had on my system earlier... which was my hybrid card so I have the old bios on my new card.. emailed support asking for the new bios.. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:04:04 (permalink)
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Got my new card in today but PX1 updated the bios to the card I had on my system earlier... which was my hybrid card so I have the old bios on my new card.. emailed support asking for the new bios.. 


I don't believe PX1 can do that can it? Thought it can just update the RGB firmware. Check in GPUZ to see what BIOS you have.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:06:53 (permalink)
94.02.42.80.15, card reads as a FTW 3 ultra hybrid. Still having the 3rd PCIE low power draw.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:16:16 (permalink)
Hi guys,
i have question . I bought new rtx 3090 ftw 3 ultra. I dont make oc on card. What should i have base core and memory? And should i have on boost in game?
Of course in stock, no oc.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:16:17 (permalink)
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MaxTheOwl
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.


Mine would hit 430 once in awhile but mostly stick around the 420-425 mark while overclocked running PR. Makes that 446 he is getting look good lol. 14240 was my best PR.


After testing again I was able to do a PR run with +160 Core / +1500 MEM and got a score of 13766. Max board power draw was 381W, and PCIe was 81W. As for my 8-Pin, first was 110W, second was 104W, and third was only 86W.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:26:07 (permalink)
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phroze
dkflint723
MaxTheOwl
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.


Mine would hit 430 once in awhile but mostly stick around the 420-425 mark while overclocked running PR. Makes that 446 he is getting look good lol. 14240 was my best PR.


After testing again I was able to do a PR run with +160 Core / +1500 MEM and got a score of 13766. Max board power draw was 381W, and PCIe was 81W. As for my 8-Pin, first was 110W, second was 104W, and third was only 86W.




What are your temps? That seems like an odd result from others I have seen on here. Usually at that high of an OC your will get a better PR score than that. However, your power draw is really low. Are you sure it's actually applying that OC? 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:38:56 (permalink)
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dkflint723
MaxTheOwl
I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.


Mine would hit 430 once in awhile but mostly stick around the 420-425 mark while overclocked running PR. Makes that 446 he is getting look good lol. 14240 was my best PR.


After testing again I was able to do a PR run with +160 Core / +1500 MEM and got a score of 13766. Max board power draw was 381W, and PCIe was 81W. As for my 8-Pin, first was 110W, second was 104W, and third was only 86W.




What are your temps? That seems like an odd result from others I have seen on here. Usually at that high of an OC your will get a better PR score than that. However, your power draw is really low. Are you sure it's actually applying that OC? 


 
This is the run https://www.3dmark.com/pr/940591 / My average core clock sucks. And also GPU-Z shows 2160 MHz max but the result only shows 2100 MHz.
The OC I applied was 180 Core; 1000 Memory
Average power draw is about 430-435 watts. And mind this was not on the XOC BIOS. It is still the stock BIOS.
 
And this was a result from last year. Same OC applied.
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/623365
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:40:51 (permalink)
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I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.




Same. Even with my card going to 500w (with 79ishw on pcie and horrible 3rd pcie power draw and 2 pin drawing 80w more than 3) I could only hit 14600ish in PR. So I am going to go out on a limb here and say your actual gpu is solid, you just need a better board around it with proper power etc. Even with a new RMA card you might not go much above this is what I would say. 




My board is a Gigabyte Z490 Master but it has no extra 6 pin. 
With a wattage of 430-440 in BFV I hit about 1990-2000 MHz with 125 MHz on the core. I don't know if this is good or not?! 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 15:45:23 (permalink)
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I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


Have to admit, I'm actually jealous of your card. I can't hit anything over 410W under load, including when using the XOC bios. And my best port royal benchmark is a 13675. If I try to clock higher than +160 core I get an instant crash.


Mine would hit 430 once in awhile but mostly stick around the 420-425 mark while overclocked running PR. Makes that 446 he is getting look good lol. 14240 was my best PR.


After testing again I was able to do a PR run with +160 Core / +1500 MEM and got a score of 13766. Max board power draw was 381W, and PCIe was 81W. As for my 8-Pin, first was 110W, second was 104W, and third was only 86W.




What are your temps? That seems like an odd result from others I have seen on here. Usually at that high of an OC your will get a better PR score than that. However, your power draw is really low. Are you sure it's actually applying that OC? 


My temps on the GPU are max 42.9c / GPU MEM 64C / CPU 71.5c
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:09:23 (permalink)
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94.02.42.80.15, card reads as a FTW 3 ultra hybrid. Still having the 3rd PCIE low power draw.


I have the same firmware version and I have the hybrid kit installed and the cards reads as FTW 3 Ultra


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:19:54 (permalink)
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94.02.42.80.15, card reads as a FTW 3 ultra hybrid. Still having the 3rd PCIE low power draw.


That's not the hybrid BIOS. That is the new BIOS
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/231245/231245

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:21:24 (permalink)
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94.02.42.80.15, card reads as a FTW 3 ultra hybrid. Still having the 3rd PCIE low power draw.


That's not the hybrid BIOS. That is the new BIOS



Hi guys,
i have question . I bought new rtx 3090 ftw 3 ultra. I dont make oc on card. What should i have base core and memory? And should i have on boost in game?
Of course in stock, no oc.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:37:03 (permalink)
phroze
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94.02.42.80.15, card reads as a FTW 3 ultra hybrid. Still having the 3rd PCIE low power draw.


That's not the hybrid BIOS. That is the new BIOS



Weird, I'm still having low 3rd pin draw.. How do i get PX1 to show that its a ultra card again? My new hybrid kit comes in next week so I'll have to reinstall it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:41:44 (permalink)
just got my notification for the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 24G-P5-3987-KR, 24GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED
and will be here in a couple of days i have 2 pci power cables for my 3080 already does anyone know of a set of 3 for the 3090 that will
make it clean looking my other braided cables are grey and black,good quality thxs

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/23 16:57:10 (permalink)
Trying to flash the XOC bios it keeps saying a display adapter is not compatible.. hmm..
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/24 00:28:53 (permalink)
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The new cards are not yet available outside of US and CA. We are working on this and expect availability within the next week or so, and just became available in US late last week. If you emailed  and are located outside of US/CA we will have an update for you shortly. All questions about this program, ETA, etc. please route to  




Thank you Jacob, please keep it coming and please can we ensure that the heads of other regions understand that the replacement cards are shipped with the XOC bios installed and tested to ensure that they don't exceed PCIe specs, have balanced 8-pin power rails, draw 500W etc. 
 
I received this from Rain in Taiwan. I am sure you can understand this is disappointing considering that type of sentiment from EVGA is circa 100 pages of this thread old. 
 
Please be aware that the Max wattage the card can draw is when under ideal circumstances and requires several factors to achieve, and it not a guarantee. The card will only draw as much as it feels it is safe to do without causing damage, high temps, or excessive fan noise.
 
Regarding your product, we can set up End user RMA for replacement. Please submit RMA request to EVGA Taiwan. If any questions, please let us know. Thanks
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/03/24 02:14:19 (permalink)
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I am an EVGA customer for many years. But the way they are handling customers outside NA for the last two years is not acceptable.
The EU store is empty. Only a few cards are here on auto notify. Otherwise you cannot buy anything.
Almost zero elite membership benefits. We are not able to buy a Kingpin here.
Orders are coming from Taiwan. Mine was at the customs for 10 days. I even paid double the taxes on my card on release day because EVGA did a mistake on their side.
And now this!!! No ETA for the EU or other regions for the RMA program; it seems to be okay for non NA cards to not run at the intended potental.
It seems there are no benefits to buy EVGA anymore outside of the states. You can go with ASUS, MSI or whatever here.
And before someone tells me "But it is a NA based company". ASUS (or any other brand) is also not from the EU or NA but we are able to buy anything from them and the service seems to be same, at least in non NA regions.
Sorry, but I am a bit emotional towards this topic at the moment.
 
I mean I can run my card on the "Stock OC BIOS" and on air like this (added images). So I really don't know what to do with it. The XOC BIOS brings not much benefits.
 
It is tiring.


This is very good result, my card too stock OC bios 14030 maybe we swap cards :-)
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