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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 17:58:08
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They did have a GTX 970 SC ACX and a GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0. The ACX 2.0 being an updated cooler.
GTX 970 SC ACX:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=2E9434CA-EF02-4035-9F3E-28F7B585E75C
GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=8296b494-5d1d-400d-b2e8-d00ccd71e088
Was the ACX 2.0 in response to a defect in the ACX?
No. But EVGA could easily say it's the same situation, updating the cooler for improved performance. They have a precedent with the ACX 2.0. It might not be completely honest, people might not believe them, but it's clearly what is going to happen. It's cheaper to shove disgruntled customers under the rug and show off a product as new and improved, not a fix for a previous issue. If EVGA admits it's a fix for their prior cooler mistakes it opens a can of worms no amount of thermal pads can close.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 18:02:33
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 18:09:45
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 18:53:57
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I don't think the phrase makes an inference. That is left up to the reader.
So, based on your synopsis...I make a statement and there's an inference...EVGA makes a statement and there is no inference......Lol. Brilliant.
As for the internet, it can be a vicious machine of speculation and unwarranted conduct. Let me again point out (as another member did in another thread) EVGA is not the only OEM experiencing catastrophic VGA failures. MSI had similar misfortunes with their offerings. However, if you carry out some thorough probing you'll find that EVGA cards experienced many more of these and other deficiencies in general.
So far Gigabyte seems to be suffering the least. Mind you I haven't heard a lot about ZOTAC but that card is probably the ugly duckling out of the bunch, if you ask me.
HeavyHemi
The solution would be, as in the past, using Precision or Afterburner if you wanted lower temps. What happened was the internet echo machine, where one example of VRMs burning up, becomes OMG****BBQ the GTX 1080 almost set my house on fire! That, isn't even an exaggeration.
People don't want a higher fan curve and increased dB levels. You do remember the ACX 3.0 being marketed as a quiet offering, yes? That defeats the purpose and again pushes consumers away from EVGA into the open arms of competing companies.
And that last sentence is ABSOLUTELY an exaggeration.
No, I made an inference. Statements make implications. It is up to the reader to make their own inference. As of course, different people read things with different understanding. Which is why there is even a discussion here, right? I'm surprised to learn I am so completely unaware of the issues. How did you know?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 19:52:42
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Sorry I'm not into buying clearly unsafe products after my 970 FTW caught fire. No excuse for that to happen the way it did. I was a fool and ordered a 1070 FTW last week. That ICX slogan of the new cards being now safe just nails it home that I made a mistake. Returning my order when I get it in Tuesday.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 20:13:32
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I've used EVGA coolers from the ACX through ACX2, ACX2+, ACX3 and Hybrids. I'm eagerly awaiting the ICX. It's not the coolers people, THINK ABOUT IT!!!
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 20:31:19
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Honestly, it sounds like this is just a cooler update because the fix for the whole fiasco last fall didn't stop the complaining. Also, i noticed many people mixing up the branding of products. The FTW is a level of card , ACX is the cooler. Now the TI brand is from Nvidia NOT EVGA. TI is for updated grapchics cards that don't fit in the brand they were put in but they already have one where it belongs, as in GTX 980TI does not belong in the X80 brand but the next level was taken.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 21:34:46
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The bit that interests me the most is how the base plate protrudes down at the VRAM modules. I know from custom fitting waterblocks and trying different pad sizes; that Pascal memory is very sensitive to heat. Reducing temps has a direct impact on memory overclocking. This is for sure.I can prove this (if I went into more details from personal experience) or you could read this post: http://www.overclock.net/t/1609397/msi-left-the-plastic-on-the-1080-seahawk-ek-x I found the gamersNexus review slightly contradicting. In one sentence he mentions that:"normally at best it's a thermal pad" on VRAM". (and the review details how aluminium conducts heat 200x better than a pad) <--- this gives the impression of direct metal on metal contact, normally only found on the core -however- In an earlier sentence he already stated that he could see thermal pads on the VRAM modules. So, what this must mean; is that the protruding base-plate enables a reduction in thermal pad HEIGHT on VRAM modules. < FACT A good comparison to show what this means is that EVGA stock, MEMORY thermal pads, are 1.5mm thick. EK waterblock memory pads are generally 0.5mm thick (water-blocks all have 'protruding' for VRAM). The minimum size of a thermal pad is 0.5mm. So at best this means a reduction in thermal pad height of 1.0mm
Now, from experience I know that a well compressed pad (with a lot of pressure) between pad and plate, is better for performance than a thinner pad with less compression. All thermal pads compress to at least 50% of original height. Also the difference between 0.5mm and 1.5mm fully compressed is very minor. To within 1 or 2 degrees C. Therefore this will not result in better memory overclocking on any real-world, measurable scale.
I have seen 6mm thick SLABS of thermal pad on GPU's before! What COULD make a difference; however. Is the increased cooling performance on the VRM. This will most likely significantly reduce the MEMORY temps on the 3 GDDR5X memory chips closest to the VRM only. And this is important; because if anyone was desperate -- you COULD actually buy extra pads to get MORE contact with the heatsink on components not normally cooled on ACX 3.0 (for example the Capacitors. As the GamersNexus review states ICX is getting)
I wrote a small guide regarding this for Classified 1080 customers. (not relevant here) BUT the point being; A similar guide could be written by the community and introduced for FTW ACX 3.0's. Which could help close any small gap in cooling performance between ACX 3.0 FTW and ICX FTW cards. I know that is still not what some people want to hear; but at least it is an option if you were desperate. I'd also remind you that EVGA are still protecting you, while you are installing a thermal mod to your card :-) So with that in mind; imagine you were not an EVGA customer right now. Going through this same situation. You are still lucky, to be EVGA :-) Imagine you were an ASUS customer going through this whole situation. :-( Do they even have a forum?!?! Also; I think EVGA still has a small, but pleasant surprise for us. Just be patient :-) P.S.Gamers Nexus review only mentioned 1 degree C with the thicker back-plate & fins :-) So my hope would be, that this creates new sales for EVGA against their competition (which will help put them in a good position to retain our loyalty) while not putting ACX 3.0 at a disadvantage. They came clean, done the honest thing and protected us while we done the MOD. And lost sales because of it. Other companies would have brushed it under the carpet and not admitted to a problem. And probably NOT lost any sales. So upheld integrity + confidence, is what we have with EVGA :-) And if THAT is the message that goes out into the wild. Then your cards re-sale value will end up worth a whole lot more :-) It's up to us to decide what that message is going to be. If the message is disgruntled EVGA customers then the resale value of all our cards will be disgruntled. But if the message is positive then your cards resale value will be positive...
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 22:18:44
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OK, some of you guys making comments about the people here that are mad need to get over it! You obviously can't grasp what the real problem is here or you don't want to see it... Saying things like "Stop complaining and go play games?" Even EVG forum boys dropping buy and basically TRYING to tell us to shut up? Are you kidding me!!!! We paid a nice chunk of cash, cuz we " Demand the best ". Other comments like "ahhh its just a new card.. there's always something new..." HELLO This looks like an attempt to fix a bug with a patch and make the customer pay for it!!! And for you guys saying "My 1080 FTW works great!" Well hope you don't plan on adding a Harddrive or something else like a second video card... all it takes is just the right amount of heat for the fire to burn!!
Awsome!!!!!! Just got my FTW 15 days ago and got it working 2 days ago!!!! After finding my own ways around the over heating problem that I don't have with my 1st "EVGA" ordered Founders addition....
This move with EVGA had me worried before I even read the forums.. It feels like I'm about to get kicked in the cratch ( Can I say that ) Yes I'm only "speculating" ( Is that ok ) and I can see from the post that I'm not the only one.... I'm sure a lot more customers feel the same... so I'm not going to stand here and wait for full cratch contact before I start thinking about how I'm going to handle the position this put me and my 1st real dream system in.. 4k SLI 60+ FPS ... I'm starting to think I should have just got a simple lame Xbox OneS...
EVGA has always done me right... with an exception for the last RMA I did with them on a out of warranty defective motherboard board they could not fix, that I ended up fixing myself.... Whatever no biggie... But If I get stiffed on this one.. I'm done..
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/07 22:29:18
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Nrpeyton, I'm sure a lot of your questions could be answered if you look at EVGA's Patent... I'm not 100% sure you can view a pending patent.. I don't have time to look , but It would clear a LOT of things up if someone can find it.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 00:44:04
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Going to laugh if after all this complaining, they decide to not release this at all until Nvidia has released their response to AMD.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 01:40:44
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Going to laugh if after all this complaining, they decide to not release this at all until Nvidia has released their response to AMD.
I said that a few pages ago and it would probably be in EVGA's best interest if they did hold off. Otherwise you're just going to end up with a lot of pissed off upset customers who will go elsewhere when for the new series. That's unless they are going ahead with it and give out the new coolers to people who already own a FTW but in all honesty that's biggie.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 02:49:41
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Like i've said before to the pizzed of customers, and rightly so, is that i believe that if people talk to Evga_tech's and CS, then they will be able to freely get the FTW2 as obviously the FTW2 GPU is just the corrected version of the 1080 FTW 1.0.
Whether people admit it or not, it is the right thing to do, and i know a Lot of people at Evga believe that the Customers that paid for the original 1080 FTW should be able to get the corrected version of the FTW GPU(1080 FTW2). Heck i want to get it myself. :)
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 03:14:22
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It wouldn't even worry me if they offered some form of exchange program (by the looks of it it's just a cooler refresh not a PCB) where you order the new iCX cooler and send the old back at your own cost once received. At least then they can recycle/reuse whatever they can instead of copping the entire cost on the chin.
But who really knows if it's going to even be on this series. From what I've seen they were just showing off the new iCX cooler. It's not like they were going to or could pair it with a 1080ti etc and they wanted to keep the cooler specifics under wraps until release.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 03:23:39
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More speculation to add to this mess...
I think the FTW2 name insinuates that it will be replacing the first FTW. The new slogan adds to this theory of mine. So, I think the ACX3 design will be replaced by the ICX in the current 1070 and 1080 within a few months.
I also think that EVGA will offer some sort of option to registered owners of the flawed ACX3 design. The potential loss of repeat customers will outweigh the cost of standing behind their product, IMO.
What I gather: I think there's no reason to get upset at this point. It's time to get upset and make EVGA aware when customers are left with "flawed" cards. That will hopefully provoke a favorable response from EVGA.
More restated opinions: The ACX3 cooler is a flawed design that wouldn't have been released in its current form if caught in time. Thermal pads would've been applied in the factory at least. I'm aware that the VRM can handle temperatures that most of these graphics cards experience, but it's definitely not optimal for a card of its caliber and price point. The ICX fixes this issue..
One last thing: I did purchase the GTX 1070 FTW last month; third graphics card and the first time I've gone with EVGA. It works great without the thermal pads. It's overclocked to the max with a custom fan curve. The GPU core stays under 72* C. I'm not sure what temp. the VRM is, but I have no reason to think it's overheating. However... an option to upgrade to an updated ICX from EVGA would definitely make me a loyal customer.
I think just out of how Evga Customer Service has been good over the years that this ^^^ would be the logical thing that Evga will do for the 1080 and some 1070 FTW owners that have gone through so many problem for a good amount of people. Though Evga will most likely tell these owners that in Private emails and such, and not through mass social-media, though i could be wrong.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 05:26:50
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 05:41:51
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EVGA !!! We can be sure that all people is gonna believe thats acx 3.0 cards are not reliable at all ! What do we have to think about that after the "overheating issue" ?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 05:44:43
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No, I made an inference. Statements make implications. It is up to the reader to make their own inference. As of course, different people read things with different understanding. Which is why there is even a discussion here, right? I'm surprised to learn I am so completely unaware of the issues. How did you know?
In regard to my comment you made an assumption. Regarding the EVGA slogan you ignored an inference. Both comments contain specific connotations. To you mine had an inference, yet the EVGA slogan did not. You see what you want to see.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 07:16:02
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Nrpeyton, I'm sure a lot of your questions could be answered if you look at EVGA's Patent... I'm not 100% sure you can view a pending patent.. I don't have time to look , but It would clear a LOT of things up if someone can find it.
Yes you can search the USPO for Patent Applications. I just looked. No results. But then you need to input the proper info. What we don't know is how the application was named and who it was filed by. Using common terms like 'EVGA', 'iCX', FTW2, etc had no results.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 07:55:47
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I know...When Samsung updated my model line 4K with HDR for 50$ less than my current one without HDR...3 months later. The thing that never changes is products get updated. Sometimes even by realizing design short comings. Should all manufacturers refrain from improving existing models/model lines? I mean, what really is the complaint here? That EVGA is improving a design? When did that become a negative? Are they supposed to be limited to releasing a static model and never make changes based on feedback? Isn't that how it SHOULD work?
Polite way of telling people to get off their high horse lol. I also agree with you. So they improved a design, and all you people can do is say "I better get this thing upgraded for free or else...". There is technically nothing wrong with your current cooler. So why should EVGA do anything for you at all? Was there a short coming on how it should have been cooled? Many including my self will say yes. Does it do the job within design specifications though? Yes, it does. So what is the issue? You feel jaded because they brought out something new and improved mid product? Let me remind you about something. The moment you buy something computer related, it's outdated. Get over it.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 08:13:41
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after going out and claiming the new cards are "safe" if this company does not offer anyone with a current acx3.0 a FREE upgrade then they have done wrong. this has to be the most sleazy and underhanded stuff i have ever seen this company pull. if i don't get my card changed at no cost to me i'm done with this company.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 08:19:47
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I know...When Samsung updated my model line 4K with HDR for 50$ less than my current one without HDR...3 months later. The thing that never changes is products get updated. Sometimes even by realizing design short comings. Should all manufacturers refrain from improving existing models/model lines? I mean, what really is the complaint here? That EVGA is improving a design? When did that become a negative? Are they supposed to be limited to releasing a static model and never make changes based on feedback? Isn't that how it SHOULD work?
Polite way of telling people to get off their high horse lol. I also agree with you. So they improved a design, and all you people can do is say "I better get this thing upgraded for free or else...". There is technically nothing wrong with your current cooler. So why should EVGA do anything for you at all? Was there a short coming on how it should have been cooled? Many including my self will say yes. Does it do the job within design specifications though? Yes, it does. So what is the issue? You feel jaded because they brought out something new and improved mid product? Let me remind you about something. The moment you buy something computer related, it's outdated. Get over it.
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I am not sure why people are yelling at Intel also then. I mean they create processors that they refresh all the time just to bump up performance. This is the same here.
the anger isn't misplaced or misguided it's about the claims of safety for the new cooler and the implied lack there of for the old cooler. you can turn your failures in the past into marketing but doing so is at the expense of your current customers and it will upset them heavily.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
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I'm waiting for the 1080ti
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/08 09:36:40
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Spoke to evga they're basically telling me take the pads and be happy over the phone , with that said spoke to my bank if evga don't refund me or let us exchange I'll be doing a chargeback for my gpu enjoy evga
Well.....good luck with that. But you know what? Your attempt to get a new card in that way, will never happen. And by the way, your bank has no legal right to make a chargeback (only if the card is broken or damaged caused by the thermal issue) . And EVGA has not told you to take the pads and be happy. Why? Because the pads are only optional. Your card is not broken in any way, it works just fine. So your dream about getting a new card or money back is no way near reality. Your post is hillarious and childish.
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I know...When Samsung updated my model line 4K with HDR for 50$ less than my current one without HDR...3 months later. The thing that never changes is products get updated. Sometimes even by realizing design short comings. Should all manufacturers refrain from improving existing models/model lines? I mean, what really is the complaint here? That EVGA is improving a design? When did that become a negative? Are they supposed to be limited to releasing a static model and never make changes based on feedback? Isn't that how it SHOULD work?
Polite way of telling people to get off their high horse lol. I also agree with you. So they improved a design, and all you people can do is say "I better get this thing upgraded for free or else...". There is technically nothing wrong with your current cooler. So why should EVGA do anything for you at all? Was there a short coming on how it should have been cooled? Many including my self will say yes. Does it do the job within design specifications though? Yes, it does. So what is the issue? You feel jaded because they brought out something new and improved mid product? Let me remind you about something. The moment you buy something computer related, it's outdated. Get over it.
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I am not sure why people are yelling at Intel also then. I mean they create processors that they refresh all the time just to bump up performance. This is the same here.
the anger isn't misplaced or misguided it's about the claims of safety for the new cooler and the implied lack their of for the old cooler. you can turn your failures in the past into marketing but doing so is at the expense of your current customers and it will upset them heavily.
There is no information at this time whether anything will be done "at the expense of your current customers". How can you know whether or not EVGA will offer the upgraded coolers as an optional free or inexpensive upgrade? With no information and no existing wrongdoing on the subject (how can wrong be "done" when nothing at all has been done yet?), why is there so much anger and threats? Like I said, can this please die off until there is information available to argue, comment, or rant about? It just seems very childish and annoying so soon based on almost pure fantasy. Scarlet-Tech
There are no details, other than what evga had already made available on the page www.evga.com/icx/ at this time.
Evga hasnt made any official statements or released any official information, so best bet is to wait for something to come down so that they are able to provide answers.
As this product is not yet released, it will [can] not be part of the step up program until it has been [released].
There must be "done" before there can be "wrong done".
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Re: Fantasy Arguments about Nothing
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Game with safety and peace of mind... but why this title ?
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Re: Fantasy Arguments about Nothing
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Sounds more like a lot of EVGA Customers just want EVGA to Stop Improving their Products, or are they Really EVGA Customers to begin with.
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Re: Fantasy Arguments about Nothing
2017/01/08 10:39:19
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Game with safety and peace of mind... but why this title ?
Because it will be better, maybe? Does that make you mad? Why? Do you think you will be missing out on "better"? Is that what makes you mad? Who said that you will be missing out on "better"? What facts do you know at this point which make you feel that way? No facts? Ok, then quit complaining and wait for something to exist before you are upset by its existence. And wait for EVGA to try to make you happy before you are upset at EVGA about something you assume that they will do. At the moment, many people are mad in the present for something they assume EVGA will do in the future. It makes no sense. How can you be mad about future actions which haven't occured?
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Re: Fantasy Arguments about Nothing
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Game with safety and peace of mind... but why this title ?
Imho after all the angst over the VRM - thermal pad issue they really could have come up with a better slogan for this new concept of the FTW2. That was kind of like rubbing some salt in an open wound lol. At least for the owners that were affected.
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Re: Fantasy Arguments about Nothing
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Game with safety and peace of mind... but why this title ?
Because it will be better, maybe? Does that make you mad? Why? Do you think you will be missing out on "better"? Is that what makes you mad? Who said that you will be missing out on "better"? What facts do you know at this point which make you feel that way? No facts? Ok, then quit complaining and wait for something to exist before you are upset by its existence. And wait for EVGA to try to make you happy before you are upset at EVGA about something you assume that they will do.
At the moment, many people are mad in the present for something they assume EVGA will do in the future. It makes no sense. How can you be mad about future actions which haven't occured?
I guess, its a slogan to be sure that those who thought its not safe to use original FTW change their mind... but for me its not a very clever slogan...
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