avadapalli
Why is nobody reporting any notifications over here from the last two days?

It will be tougher and tougher to source reports for purposes of this summary...first time purchases and scalpers/bot owners with multiple “fresh” accounts are less likely to report back to the community. Expect an increase in days with no reports or fewer reports, as well as bigger jumps in the timeline when reports do reach me.
 
My request to the community is to please report your original timestamp when you receive an “invite to purchase” email, even when you “pass” on it. 

Silvia511

enewt

avadapalli
Why is nobody reporting any notifications over here from the last two days?

It will be tougher and tougher to source reports for purposes of this summary...first time purchases and scalpers/bot owners with multiple “fresh” accounts are less likely to report back to the community. Expect an increase in days with no reports or fewer reports, as well as bigger jumps in the timeline when reports do reach me.
 
My request to the community is to please report your  when you receive an “invite to purchase” email, even when you “pass” on it. 

Wait, since most scalpers/bot owners often joined the queue ahead of anyone else, at this moment, there should be all first time purchasers. Are not first time purchasers more likely to report back to the community to share their excitements? I think fewer reports in the last two days is just the stock is running low.

How many accounts do you have?  (Hopefully just one.)  How many accounts do you think a scalper has (especially one targeting the 3080 Ti releases)?

Moreover, first time purchasers are less likely to know about the community tracking effort. But that’s just my opinion…I could be wrong…we will find out soon enough.

Silvia511
Maybe also one? New account requires phone number and sms verification. If the scalper using the same phone number, wouldn't it be easily identified by EVGA? But I guess there are free online SMS services with disposable virtual numbers available?
And you're right, first time purchasers may not even know the community tracking thing.

I should clarify. You don’t need a new EVGA account for each queue registration, just an email address. Once your name comes up in the queue, you then need to associate that email address with an (likely new) EVGA account. Spamming email addresses for the auto-notify button is — I am guessing — pretty cheap. Creating an EVGA account once the queue spot comes up…toughest part is probably finding new physical addresses to which to send the product or the payment method….

I am sure I am missing some nuances here, but to only require an email address to get a queue spot…it is primed for bad actor exploitation.

enewt

Silvia511
Maybe also one? New account requires phone number and sms verification. If the scalper using the same phone number, wouldn't it be easily identified by EVGA? But I guess there are free online SMS services with disposable virtual numbers available?
And you're right, first time purchasers may not even know the community tracking thing.

I should clarify. You don’t need a new EVGA account for each queue registration, just an email address. Once your name comes up in the queue, you then need to associate that email address with an (likely new) EVGA account. Spamming email addresses for the auto-notify button is — I am guessing — pretty cheap. Creating an EVGA account once the queue spot comes up…toughest part is probably finding new physical addresses to which to send the product or the payment method….

I am sure I am missing some nuances here, but to only require an email address to get a queue spot…it is primed for bad actor exploitation.

Admittedly, it was much easier for anyone to sign up for the queues early on.  As time has gone on, other restrictions have gone in - some visible, some not - that greatly limits the ability for certain types of actors to sign up.  However, we've blocked more people through our purchase system, accounting system, and shipping limitations than you can probably imagine.  We've continued to implement additional features throughout the existence of the queue, but most of this is on the backend so you guys don't see it.  I suppose it's easy to assume (and it's sure easy to make wild claims without evidence) that there are systemic issues with who exactly is buying cards through the queue, but we find that most of the people who buy multiple cards are regular members who have queued for most or all of the available cards.  This is one of the reasons that we ultimately chose to take the direction we did.
 

Silvia511
 
Or further more, set up a wild card, and any addresses @your domain can be forwarded to your primary email. Like shown down below. So you'll have single point of management of all your queue registration despite the emails you were using are all different.

Indeed, it's almost like people who do this are begging for us to blacklist their alternate accounts.  Same thing with Gmail accounts.

The point is that people bought temporary cards to get them through until the card they wanted came.  They bought their temporary card with full confidence that they were playing by the rules, and they would not be penalized.  
Now, the rules changed retroactively - and those people are penalized.
I built a PC that cost WAY more than I planned.  Could you imagine if in that rig I was now stuck to ONLY the 3060 I managed to get while waiting for a Kingpin?

I can imagine it.  And it makes me salty.

"most of the people who buy multiple cards are regular members who have queued for most or all of the available cards" is survival biased. People queued for most or all of the available cards is the reason why you see those people buy multiple cards. Think of launch day June 3rd, newly created account would only register 70 Tis and 80 Tis, because there is no point to join other queue which has already been launched months ago.

Silvia511
"most of the people who buy multiple cards are regular members who have queued for most or all of the available cards" is survival biased. People queued for most or all of the available cards is the reason why you see those people ARE ABLE TO BUY A CARD.

fixed

firerx
enewt,
is you associate code still good to use? Seems my Elite code has nothing for my next purchase. 

Yes, it should still be functioning just fine (VDN2319M4O569J4). Some folks have reported having to enter in an associate code a few times before the system accepts it.  Thanks for the consideration!

I got the notify for the EVGA 3080TI 12G-P5-3967-KR on October 1st at 10:22. My timestamp was 6/3/2021 8:55:48 AM PT.
 
Unfortunately I did not see it until Saturday. Oh well, the prices for the new cards are insane. Luckily I was able to trade my 5700 XT for a brand new 3070 TI FE on the same day I missed the notification for the 3080 TI lol. Maybe it will work out better with the new system limiting your account to one 30 series GPU, because if I would have bought that then I wouldn't be able to get a water cooled card which is what I really want. 

With EVGA’s decision to not drop to the queue today in advance of this afternoon’s walk back of yesterday’s announcement, it feels like we have stepped into a Tom Clancy subplot (e.g., the Wall Street do over orchestrated by Jack Ryan…in case there are folks in here who haven’t read ‘da Clance), and I am going to walk back the EVGA Queue Summary Table to Monday morning’s timestamps. (For folks looking for today’s announcement from EVGA: here it is.)
 
Update (5:15 pm): Further EVGA guidance on which queues to consider retaining.
 
And now to the t-shirt mock-up announcement that I’ve previously teased…(skip ahead if you’ve heard this story before).
 
Back in late March, as part of a summary table intro, I wrote an open letter to @EVGA_JacobF imploring EVGA to sell a t-shirt memorializing the Queue. At the time, I had some grand design ideas…quoting from the open letter: 

“I would think the graphics for the shirt would include a bunch of various models of EVGA 30 Series cards marching in a line over the body of an unconscious scalper, with “invite to purchase” emails flying overhead, the EVGA shipping crew working their butts off (thank you again!), and a clock counting down from 8 hours.”

As I mentioned on September 17, the one-year anniversary of the 3080 launch, EVGA reached out to me and we have collaborated on the design of just such a shirt. While I understand that the shirt is a mere days away from being available for sale on EVGA.com, there are a few items to note: 

• The design was tweaked to pay homage to the 8-hour stopwatch on “invite to purchase” emails. Since the design was locked, EVGA has extended the time frame to 20 hours.
• As the pandemic has dragged on, I’ve stopped wearing button down and polo shirts to my Zoom calls…showering has also become hit or miss these days, what with the drought and…my laziness…. Why is this relevant? I wanted a shirt that I could wear during my work Zooms…so gone from the design is any immobile scalper body, marching gamers or chalk outline of any kind.
• Oh, and I prefer t-shirts to have art on the back rather than the front…not sure why, maybe it’s because my tummy area is rapidly expanding and art on the front of t-shirts now curves around me like the inverse of a high-end IMAX screen.

Here is the mock-up of the t-shirt.
 

  
After the shirt design was locked, I realized there was one more small thing I wanted to add…but it was too late. (Not that I am suggesting we do another queue for the 40 series, but if I do get another chance at an EVGA t-shirt design, I’ll be ready.) Other than that missed element, I am happy with the understated design of the shirt and hope that y’all will appreciate it too.
 
On the topic of appreciation…I have a great deal to be thankful for over the last year. One year ago, I was two weeks post a F5 battle that left me heartbroken and adrift…my dream of building my new gaming rig…in shambles. At 7:27 pm PT On October 5, 2020, EVGA announced the Queue via an EVGA Forum post (it wouldn’t be until the next day that it was widely reported in the media). Over the next few weeks, as a way of keeping myself sane, I started tracking reports of folks receiving “invite to purchase” emails from EVGA. One random day, I posted my makeshift summary table. Folks liked it…and many (Narrator: too many) months later here we are. 
 
What does this have to do with appreciation? I am confident that I would not still be here without this extended community…y’all have made my hunt for a card…friendlier, saltier and much more enjoyable. In the sharing of the burden of not having our preferred cards, the weight has felt lighter…more manageable…“acceptable”. This communal watch has lifted my spirits (as it has simultaneously weighed down my scale (those s’mores don’t eat themselves)) and I cannot thank you enough.
 
In that spirit of gratitude, I discussed with EVGA an idea about how I might be able to memorialize this year together on our watch…specifically with folks who have had the unenviable task of reading my intros of questionable merit or insight. To be clear, it is not a perfect approach…it doesn’t reach everybody (and sincere apologies in advance for those that get missed)…but within the limited confines of just being one member of our collective community on our wall (and not an EVGA executive capable of rewriting the Queues rules midstream (Narrator: “Too soon, amphibian, too soon.”)), huddled around the campfire, awaiting his turn at the s’mores mallow spear (let’s be honest, I cut ahead of TheRealMikeVan too many times to count)…it will reach folks who will recognize the design element in the center of the t-shirt’s graphic (and shouldn’t catch “randoms” for whom the element is a mystery…). I apologize in advance that it will not reach every member of this community…. Without further written detritus, here was my idea:
 
Once EVGA has the t-shirts on hand, the first 365 EVGA.com orders that utilize my Associate Code (i.e., the method of identifying folks for whom the design of the shirt would make sense), would each receive the t-shirt along with their order…all delivered by the recipient’s friendly, neighborhood UPS driver (may your drivers continue to be swift, accurate and dexterous). EVGA has graciously agreed to bump up that number to a total of 500 orders, as well as to execute some giveaways (exact giveaways still TBD, but I would guess via their Twitch streams and other typical EVGA channels) of another 500 units of the t-shirt to EVGA accounts that have previously made an EVGA.com purchase utilizing an associate code (Thanks EVGA!).
 
Again, I recognize that this is not a perfect approach to getting shirts to all of the community members that have made this difficult experience better…folks who have already received their EVGA gaming goodness and those that won’t be fortunate enough to receive an “invite to purchase” email during the window of limited supply, but my small amphibian-sized newt brain couldn’t come up with a better solution.
 
At the risk of becoming a bigger bore than I already am, thank you all for being part of this community tracking effort. I am confident that – eventually – our patience and persistence will pay off…and we will all enjoy our very own gaming goodness!
 
Very truly yours,
enewt (and enewt jr.)
 
As of 4:15 pm PT Tuesday, October 5, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of October 4 (as reconstructed by your friendly, neighborhood amphibian); italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report)):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                   02/05/2021 00:06:00 
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                   10/06/2020 16:08:40
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3967                    06/03/2021 08:56:12
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KL               10/06/2020 23:42:03 
3080 XC3 Ultra                  3885-KL               09/19/2020 13:17:59
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3797                   06/10/2021 06:54:07
3070 Ti XC3 Ultra               3785                    06/15/2021 09:29:30
3070 FTW3 Ultra                3767-KL               12/10/2020 15:13:31
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755-KL                12/06/2020 05:41:10
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra            3667-KL                12/01/2020 20:25:54
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming           3953                     06/30/2021 06:36:46 
3080 FTW3 Gaming            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
3070 Ti XC3 Gaming           3783                     06/30/2021 06:29:45
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                    10/29/2020 06:21:40  
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                    12/08/2020 18:52:16  
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663-KL               12/02/2020 05:31:19
3060 XC Gaming                3657                     05/13/2021 10:35:38

 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 16:07:01 
3070 XC3 Black                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
3060 XC Black                   3655                     02/25/2021 09:09:15 
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                    12/29/2020 19:39:00 
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                    12/20/2020 05:03:48
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid   3968                     06/03/2021 07:52:39
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hybrid     3958                     06/03/2021 08:09:49

3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3898-KL                12/16/2020 09:14:54
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:15:55 
 
Hydro Copper 
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:29  
3090 XC3 Ultra HC             3979                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra HC       3969                     06/03/2021 07:54:47
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra HC          3959                     06/15/2021 10:29:10 
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:15 
3080 XC3 Ultra HC             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 

K|NGP|N 
K|NGP|N HC (Queue)          3999                    06/15/2021 09:17:29 
K|NGP|N Hybrid (Queue)     3998                    03/09/2021 20:14:50
K|NGP|N HC Kit                  1999                    07/16/2021 11:24:46  

 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!   twene  

This T-shirt will be so popular, it will need it's own Queue..

enewt

w_louie
This T-shirt will be so popular, it will need it's own Queue..

Thanks w_louie. 

imagine two random strangers wearing this tshirt coming across each other on the street. epic bro-fist moment in the making

I posted this suggestion in the queue poll thread but wanted to post it here again for when 40 series rolls around. It seems like it likely would have helped with the recent drama.
 
You would have two options.
 
Option 1:
On initial launch (or possibly before for elite) allow for an option to get the first available SKU which we could refer to as the "General Queue," which works nicely as an initialism, GQ.  No need to scramble to sign up for every available SKU individually. That would also likely (maybe?) help with traffic and site stability. This would remain in effect for subsequent launches of 40 series cards.
 
You could then go into your Queue settings and exclude SKUs that you are not interested in. This would just help speed up the process so that EVGA doesn't have to wait for you to decline before making the SKU available to the next person and saves you from getting a notification you don't want.
 
When a SKU becomes available you could purchase or pass. If you pass you will will remain in the general queue and will be notified when a different SKU becomes available. If you purchase then congratulations on your new card and you are removed from the general 40 series queue.
 
Option 2:
You need/want more than one 40 series card. On launch day for that card you must sign up for the queue for each card you want specifically. Basically the way the queue has worked for the last year.
 
You will be behind the people who signed up for the general queue, but they can only purchase a single 40 series card so many will either queue out (get a card) before they get the specific SKU you are signed up for or decide to pass.
 
You can sign up for multiple SKUs. You can purchase one of each SKU you sign up for.
 
If you purchase one SKU you will get a time "penalty" in all other SKUs you've signed up for, let's say your timestamp will be pushed back 1hr (or whatever amount of time EVGA sees as a reasonable amount based on their experience with the queue). If you purchase a second card you get another time penalty, possibly the same as the first or it could be progressive so that you get a larger and larger penalty every time you get a card.
 
You could select one "save" SKU that is your priority SKU. That SKU would be exempt from the time penalty but you can only select one SKU for this. Once you purchase your priority SKU you cannot select another.
 
Customers can only select option 1 or option 2, you cannot be in the general queue and also sign up for specific SKUs.
 
Once you queue out of the general queue you can then either re-join the general queue at the back of the line or sign up for specific SKUs at the back of their respective lines. But like before, you cannot do both.
 
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I'd be interested to hear what people think about this type of system.