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2021/07/26 20:48:47 (permalink)
Hey Guys,

I Just got new world and every now and again I black screen and fans ramp up to 100%. I was wondering if I can check if I have revision .1 or 1.0 (I got the card 11/10/2020). I have already submitted and RMA and I am hoping for a 1.0 because I heard those are a lot more stable. I would love to check mine and the RMA card. Please let me know how that is possible.
 
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Temps are perfectly fine under load: GPU-Z numbers below
GPU Temp 73.8 Max
Hot spot 84.3 Max
and Mem Temp 84.0 Max 
 
I tried raising power limit and temp limit to 107% and 91.0 C respectfully in msi afterburner and haven't had a crash quite yet.
 
Best,
Trilesnik
 
Quick Edit: I RMA'ed my first card back in the beginning due to black screen and this is my second one... Would suck to have a 3rd one but I am hoping for a 1.0 revision
post edited by trilesnik - 2021/07/26 20:50:27
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 20:52:07 (permalink)
    Physically looking at it is the only reliable way of knowing.

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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 20:57:04 (permalink)
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    Hey Guys,

    I Just got new world and every now and again I black screen and fans ramp up to 100%. I was wondering if I can check if I have revision .1 or 1.0 (I got the card 11/10/2020). I have already submitted and RMA and I am hoping for a 1.0 because I heard those are a lot more stable. I would love to check mine and the RMA card. Please let me know how that is possible.
     
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    Core I9-10900k
    Asus Rog Maximus xii Extreme mobo
    Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x32gb 4000 mhz ram
    Samsung m.2 drive
    Power supply: CORSAIR AXi Series, AX1200i, 1200 Watt, 80+ Platinum Certified, Fully Modular - Digital Power Supply
     
    Temps are perfectly fine under load: GPU-Z numbers below
    GPU Temp 73.8 Max
    Hot spot 84.3 Max
    and Mem Temp 84.0 Max 
     
    I tried raising power limit and temp limit to 107% and 91.0 C respectfully in msi afterburner and haven't had a crash quite yet.
     
    Best,
    Trilesnik


    Like a moth to a flame I guess.
     
    Why is it so important to play New World right now that you're willing to risk a $2000 card that anyone would be lucky to only pay $2000 dollars for?
     
    Why not, I don't know, just wait until there is a final resolution and EVGA either recalls their rev 0.1 cards or provides a VBIOS update the prevents the issue?
     
    Why am I reading "Hey I'm playing this game this is known to kill my equipment... I've been having the exact same symptoms people report before their card dies... do you guys think I have a revision that is definitely going to die the next time I play this irresistible game, or do you think it's only like 60% that it might kill my card?"
     
    You can pull your card and look near the PCIe connector if it is rev 0.1 or 1.0. If you have 0.1 then sure, contact EVGA, let them know you've had issues and want a rev 1.0 card.
     
    My advice, it's simple, wait like a few days before playing what is apparently the very best game that has ever been made and MUST be played NOW NOW NOW. A solution could be coming very soon.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 22:16:05 (permalink)
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    Physically looking at it is the only reliable way of knowing.





    I appreciate it. I took a look at im at revision .1
     
    Do you think I need to tell EVGA that I want a 1.0 revision card or do you think they are all revision 1.0 at this point?
     
    Best,
    Trilesnik
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 22:20:11 (permalink)
    I've read that recent RMA's have been the 0.1 cards, but that was before the latest debacle.  I would hope they're vetting cards and sending out 1.0's, but even then, I don't think that's a guarantee that the card won't fail.


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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 22:25:15 (permalink)
    @roguemaster
     
    Wow, that would be really poor to get a .1 when we know the 1.0's are stable (at least more stable). Is there a way I can request that from EVGA directly? Ive been a long time buyer.
     
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    post edited by the_Scarlet_one - 2021/07/27 10:58:48
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/26 22:39:57 (permalink)
    do they have 3080 ti ftw3 ultra revision 1.0? I checked mine and its 0.1.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 00:49:02 (permalink)
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    @roguemaster
     
    Wow, that would be really ****ty to get a .1 when we know the 1.0's are stable (at least more stable). Is there a way I can request that from EVGA directly? Ive been a long time buyer.
     
    Best,
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    Yeah, it's called talking to EVGA support. You haven't tried that yet? Figured you'd just keep playing New World to see what happens?
     
    CALL EVGA SUPPORT!
     
    Of course, after you actually know, by looking at your card, what revision you currently have.
     
    What does a person have to do to get through to you?
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 00:52:55 (permalink)
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    do they have 3080 ti ftw3 ultra revision 1.0? I checked mine and its 0.1.


    They don't. The issue has not been seen on RTX 3080 Ti, which probably means that FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080 Ti rev 0.1 is the same or better than FTW3 Ultra RTX 3090 rev 1.0.
     
    Don't get hung up on rev # alone. The EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 Ti came out well after the FTW3 Ultra 3090 rev 1.0 came out. They knew what the issue with rev 0.1 FTW3 Ultra RTX 3090s was well before that product launched. 
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 10:04:24 (permalink)
    For anyone else checking, I called EVGA and they said there is no guarantee it will be a 1.0 revision board. This worries me... Oh well, lets see what happens.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 10:11:07 (permalink)
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    For anyone else checking, I called EVGA and they said there is no guarantee it will be a 1.0 revision board. This worries me... Oh well, lets see what happens.




    I dont understand how they can send out 0.1 boards without a fix in place. It seems they are just a ticking time bomb at this point
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 10:23:08 (permalink)
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    I appreciate it. I took a look at im at revision .1
     
    Do you think I need to tell EVGA that I want a 1.0 revision card or do you think they are all revision 1.0 at this point?
     
    Best,
    Trilesnik
     




    You get rev 1.0 by doing the special rma. also called 3090oc RMA.

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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 14:14:01 (permalink)
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    For anyone else checking, I called EVGA and they said there is no guarantee it will be a 1.0 revision board. This worries me... Oh well, lets see what happens.



    Well, that's just stupid AF.

    I'd love to see them do a blanket recall of the 0.1 cards, to be honest. I've a new build that's almost ready, and I just know that the 3090 is going to end up dead eventually, once I move it from the old machine to the new one.

    Sending out suspect cards that are known to be prone to failure, to replace identical cards that have failed is just pure, unadulterated idiocy.

    EDIT: Just sent a tweet to Jacob to ask WTH. This really seems odd, unless there's a newer revision than 1.0.
    post edited by RogueMaster - 2021/07/27 14:22:49


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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 16:13:36 (permalink)
    @roguemaster
     
    If you get an answer please let me know. Something that was interesting is if I go to MSI Afterburner and put power limit% to 107 and temp limit to 91 celcius, the black screen and fan to 100% seems to have gone away. (Just for new world)
     
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/27 19:08:17 (permalink)
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    @roguemaster
     
    If you get an answer please let me know. Something that was interesting is if I go to MSI Afterburner and put power limit% to 107 and temp limit to 91 celcius, the black screen and fan to 100% seems to have gone away. (Just for new world)
     
    Best,
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    Radio silence thus far.

    Edit 1: 07/28/21 - 2PM West coast time, and still no reply. Seems like they've circled the wagons while they try to sort out the mess.
    post edited by RogueMaster - 2021/07/28 14:14:13


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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/28 21:17:12 (permalink)
    The RMA request has been approved so now I'm hoping that I get a rev 1 board sometime in the next day or two since I live in Cali. Here is to a more stable card. I think I also need to fan out my computer and clean it up to let the temps settle. I was running a bit hot. I'm idling around 55 degrees with 2 idle games on. (Its very hot in Cali). I see over the last couple days 83 degrees was my max, which I hope is below the max before it does the black screen. If it isn't I might have found the problem? I have a bunch of case fans but not the most optimal location of the computer.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 01:41:32 (permalink)
    Is there any way to know if I have a good revision on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming ?

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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 04:25:22 (permalink)
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    @roguemaster
     
    If you get an answer please let me know. Something that was interesting is if I go to MSI Afterburner and put power limit% to 107 and temp limit to 91 celcius, the black screen and fan to 100% seems to have gone away. (Just for new world)
     
    Best,
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    That "fix" is temporary. The crashing will come back. Those of us with failed cards have gone through this dying process before. A card that crashes like this is a card that's on its way out. You can delay the inevitable, but it is still inevitable.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 05:47:09 (permalink)
    Wow - I really need to learn more about this game that is so fantastic that people are willing to risk $2000 worth of hardware, and then come here and complain that they just risked $2000 worth of hardware.
     
    Folks - relax - there is no "magic bullet" to figure out what is going on.  When an electronic circuit blows up, it takes out other components with it.  It's difficult to find root cause as you have to sort through lots of things and eliminate possible causes 1 by 1.
     
    EVGA has a reputation for the best customer service and for doing the right thing...that is why I buy EVGA hardware.  Does the current situation look dire for them?  Yes.  Will they make it right?  Yes.
     
    All this conspiracy talk and "they won't do that due to a potential class action law suite" is entirely stupid.  You don't grow a company, get loyal customers, and throw that all away to save a buck...just doesn't happen in the normal world.  Research EVGA and it's track record...and it won't happen here.
     
    Just relax and let the engineers get to root cause so they can implement a corrective action.
     
     
    Oh - and if it's so dang important to play this game, get yourself a used 2000 or 1000 series card...if you "must" play it before this issue gets resolved.
    post edited by ksgnow2010 - 2021/07/29 05:49:26
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 07:09:02 (permalink)
    The bigger issue is that EVGA hasnt said anything. They havent even said "Hey everyone, if you are running <insert card(s)> please do not play the New World closed beta as we are investigating reports of failed GPUs. If your GPU has failed please request an RMA and we will replace it".
     
    It also seems so far that Rev 0.1 cards are affected far more than Rev 1.0 cards. I dont believe I've seen a Rev 1.0 card failure yet though I'm sure they are out there (just as there are GPUs from other manufacturers and even AMD that have failed while playing New World). And honestly I've seen very few people complaining. Mostly just coming to report the issue and ask for help and eventually RMA their GPU. EVGA is replacing them which is great but a lot of people are worried they are simply being replaced with another GPU that will fail.
     
    Its also coming to light that its been happening in other games as well so the worry now is that we are essentially playing russian roulette when we play games :p
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 08:33:51 (permalink)
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    The bigger issue is that EVGA hasnt said anything. They havent even said "Hey everyone, if you are running <insert card(s)> please do not play the New World closed beta as we are investigating reports of failed GPUs. If your GPU has failed please request an RMA and we will replace it".
     
    It also seems so far that Rev 0.1 cards are affected far more than Rev 1.0 cards. I dont believe I've seen a Rev 1.0 card failure yet though I'm sure they are out there (just as there are GPUs from other manufacturers and even AMD that have failed while playing New World). And honestly I've seen very few people complaining. Mostly just coming to report the issue and ask for help and eventually RMA their GPU. EVGA is replacing them which is great but a lot of people are worried they are simply being replaced with another GPU that will fail.
     
    Its also coming to light that its been happening in other games as well so the worry now is that we are essentially playing russian roulette when we play games :p




    Any cards that failed are still working through the RMA process...and I would imagine they would have failed samples to analyze pretty soon.  Until they analyze this, they don't really know if New World is what caused this, or a driver issues, or a board issue, or a GPU issue...etc.
     
    I understand people's frustrations...but the process of figuring out why something is breaking takes time.  EVGA should have some sort of press release or twitter statement stating that they are looking into the issue.  However, if they did that, it wouldn't be enough for all the people who think they are playing "russian roulette"...nothing will be enough.
     
    So, in absence of knowing what is really going on, they are doing what they can do...replacing units under warranty.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 08:48:29 (permalink)
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    Wow - I really need to learn more about this game that is so fantastic that people are willing to risk $2000 worth of hardware, and then come here and complain that they just risked $2000 worth of hardware.

     
    jaredbyoung
     
    Like a moth to a flame I guess.
     
    Why is it so important to play New World right now that you're willing to risk a $2000 card that anyone would be lucky to only pay $2000 dollars for?


    I was glad to see two other people asking the same question I keep having. I don't understand what keeps drawing people to go "oh look, people are having problems with this game and the card I have...let's take a look-see!" lol. I just can't even fathom it being that important.

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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 09:04:02 (permalink)
    I dont think people are doing that... there has no been no official guidance or anything from EVGA on the issue. Amazon has said the issue is not the game but capped menu fps as a "fix" which doesnt seem to have helped at all. I think people are simply wanting to play a game with their GPU plain and simple. And since the cards are being replaced there is some logic in seeing if your card is affected and getting a replacement that isnt affected. EVGA has not acknowledged anything or advised anyone to not play the game in any way. If they want to spend resources sending out replacement cards thats on them. If it means I can get a Rev 1.0 card without the power distribution issues then I'll take it.
     
    If you had a car that they found out would break the axle when making a certain type of left turn would you just avoid making left turns from that point on? Or would you get it replaced and not have the issue anymore?
     
    If you are dependent on the card then by all means avoid the game to see what shakes out. Worst case EVGA never officially says anything and then every game that comes out you have to worry that its going to brick your GPU. Best case they acknowledge the issue and either provide a fix via BIOS update or start an official recall/replacement program for affected cards.
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/07/29 09:48:27 (permalink)
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    I dont think people are doing that... there has no been no official guidance or anything from EVGA on the issue. Amazon has said the issue is not the game but capped menu fps as a "fix" which doesnt seem to have helped at all. I think people are simply wanting to play a game with their GPU plain and simple. And since the cards are being replaced there is some logic in seeing if your card is affected and getting a replacement that isnt affected. EVGA has not acknowledged anything or advised anyone to not play the game in any way. If they want to spend resources sending out replacement cards thats on them. If it means I can get a Rev 1.0 card without the power distribution issues then I'll take it.
     
    If you had a car that they found out would break the axle when making a certain type of left turn would you just avoid making left turns from that point on? Or would you get it replaced and not have the issue anymore?
     
    If you are dependent on the card then by all means avoid the game to see what shakes out. Worst case EVGA never officially says anything and then every game that comes out you have to worry that its going to brick your GPU. Best case they acknowledge the issue and either provide a fix via BIOS update or start an official recall/replacement program for affected cards.




    Not the best analogy, but I get your point. I've seen many posts in here that are literally "I've read cards are bricking in this game. I'm going to go play the game to find out if mine bricks. Yup it bricked (and some who said no issues)".
     
    I think a better analogy would be that there's a new side road you can take with your car. Then all these stories come out about other people with the same car as you keep having their engine die when they take that road. You don't have to take that road, nobody is making you. It might have nothing to do with that road. Your car company is currently investigating the issue but hasn't made any official announcements yet. Do you, full-knowing there have been issues, just go "hey, lets check out this road!" or do you wait a few weeks until someone actually figures out what the real problem is and then try to get the car company to fix it assuming it's a problem with that car model? Honestly, I'd personally avoid that road for a while. It looks new and fancy, but there's no reason I have to take that road.
     
    They're already replacing the 0.1 cards if the power distribution is bad. there are posts and confirmation from EVGA on that. They're replacing cards that do fail, and nobody who's bought a 3090 should be anywhere near the end of their 3 year warranty. I guess if you're trying to figure out immediately if you have a suspect card before some other games comes out in 3 months that you are dying to play and now is a better time to go through the RMA process for you, you might risk it...but I haven't seen anybody make that claim. It seems they just really want to get into New World...right now...no matter the cost. 
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/08/01 00:32:34 (permalink)
    Update for everyone: I got my RMA. It was a 1.0 revision card so now I have to see how it performs! I also fully cleaned out my computer of dust (not too much). So lets hope!
     
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/08/02 06:48:26 (permalink)
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    Update for everyone: I got my RMA. It was a 1.0 revision card so now I have to see how it performs! I also fully cleaned out my computer of dust (not too much). So lets hope!
     
    Best,
    Trilesnik


    How did it work out? Does it still cause problems in new world?
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    Re: Check if I have a revision .1 or 1.0 card 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 2021/08/02 09:54:55 (permalink)
    Hi Kevin,
     
    I was very busy so I didn't have a chance to play it and now the beta is down... So ill let you know when the actual game comes out.
     
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    Trilesnik
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